Curse

African War Lord · Feb 28, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

Meet the disco sin.

[skill]Augury of death[/skill] [skill]Dancing daggers[/skill] [skill]Entangling asp[/skill] [skill]Signet of toxic shock[/skill] [skill]Discord[/skill] [skill]Consume corpse[/skill] [skill]Malign intervention[/skill] [skill]Resurrection signet[/skill]

16 deadly arts
12 death magic

It's a quick hard spike but it's vulnerable to hex and condition removal. Cast malign intervention on target, then augury of death followed by dancin daggers, entangling asp, signet of toxic shock and discord. By then you've worked up quite an appetite so eat the corpse!!! move on to the next guy. It has a small amount of survivablity with consume corpse but not much so pray for a good monk or rit.

You get to warp around alot which is always good. The best part is when you kill somebody a lvl 14 bone horror will appear and most of the times come after you lol. Not a good thing really but you can lure him onto your enemies with practise so it can be entertaining. Or use taste of death on it?

Anyways it's pretty fun, try it out in RA lemme know what you guys think.

Yanman.be · Feb 28, 2007, 01:39 PM // 13:39

Malign is waste of a skill slot..

Iron Palm + Fetid Ground perhaps?

S E V E R · Feb 28, 2007, 02:41 PM // 14:41

I don't see this killing people effectively to be honest, perhaps it works well as interesting offensive support with another damage dealer. And it really begs the question why not N/A as at least then you'll get the energy back from Soul Reaping. As assassin primary, critical strikes is just going to waste.

Maybe this is a bit of a stuffy attitude for me to take.

Vinven · Feb 28, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Discord is a hard sell in a sin build, I tried it myself. You may want to incorporate some skills that work if the target is below 50% health instead if using augury, so you shadow step to targets ready for them. Shadow Refuge may be better for you than Consume Corpse, and Malign is somewhat odd.

Plus, it doesn't appear you have a lead attack for Entangling Asp. Perhaps something like...

[card]Augury of Death[/card] [card]Dancing Daggers[/card] [card]Signet of Toxic Shock[/card] [card]Shadow Refuge[/card] [card]Resurrection Signet[/card] <Insert Lead Attack Here> [card]Entangling Asp[/card] <Insert Discord, or other Elite here, a good idea would be a Duel Attack.>

African War Lord · Feb 28, 2007, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Basically you do more damage as A/N and get more energy and health with N/A.

You don't see this killing people effectively but have you tried it?

Malign is a little odd but basically I just need any hex to stick. I tried parasitic bond but with only 3 curses wasn't very helpfull. This skill actually served a purpose in that it reduces healing and it's on a 5 second recharge. I definately could use a better hex though your right.

African War Lord · Feb 28, 2007, 03:35 PM // 15:35

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Originally Posted by Vinven

Discord is a hard sell in a sin build, I tried it myself. You may want to incorporate some skills that work if the target is below 50% health instead if using augury, so you shadow step to targets ready for them. Shadow Refuge may be better for you than Consume Corpse, and Malign is somewhat odd.

Plus, it doesn't appear you have a lead attack for Entangling Asp. Perhaps something like...

[card]Augury of Death[/card] [card]Dancing Daggers[/card] [card]Signet of Toxic Shock[/card] [card]Shadow Refuge[/card] [card]Resurrection Signet[/card] <Insert Lead Attack Here> [card]Entangling Asp[/card] <Insert Discord, or other Elite here, a good idea would be a Duel Attack.>

My lead is dancing daggers. Why would I use shadow refuge though? consume corpse is for energy gain, without that it's hard to keep going. I used to try this with assassin's promise but it get's annoying when people don't die lol.

Basically you can switch out the necro skills if you don't like them. It's flexible enough in that the first 4 skills are your main combo, and you can add 2 skills and an elite with 12 in that attribute. The possiblities are endless. I like the discord version because it sync's well and does alot of damage quickly.

Flightmare · Feb 28, 2007, 03:40 PM // 15:40

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Plus, it doesn't appear you have a lead attack for Entangling Asp.

[card]Dancing Daggers[/card] counts as lead attack.

Kiba of hidden leaf · Feb 28, 2007, 11:34 PM // 23:34

How do you consume corpse when your hex makes a minion...
[skill]Malign Intervention[/skill]

African War Lord · Mar 01, 2007, 02:46 AM // 02:46

that's the old skill description, it doesn't exploit corpse anymore.

Captain Arne Is PRO · Mar 01, 2007, 02:55 AM // 02:55

Just try the Signet Spiker build on Wiki.. It works wonders in AB, RA, and therefore PvE.

whobitz · Mar 01, 2007, 04:31 AM // 04:31

RA and AB aren't much better than PvE. They're worse than some of the high-end PvE stuff.

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Originally Posted by African War Lord

Basically you do more damage as A/N and get more energy and health with N/A.

I doubt that. Discord at level 16 DM gives 115 damage, and it's your main damage source. As an N/A, you can still run 9 or 10 deadly arts, but you get easier, built-in energy management, as well as more health and energy from CC. The damage you lose from lower deadly arts is negligible when each Discord hits for 20 more anyway.

Even if I decided not to use soul reaping, I'd still go N/A for the damage + better CC.

Flightmare · Mar 01, 2007, 03:27 PM // 15:27

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Originally Posted by Trixz

PVE is bad.

And you can explain why?

African War Lord · Mar 01, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53

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Originally Posted by whobitz

RA and AB aren't much better than PvE. They're worse than some of the high-end PvE stuff.

I doubt that. Discord at level 16 DM gives 115 damage, and it's your main damage source. As an N/A, you can still run 9 or 10 deadly arts, but you get easier, built-in energy management, as well as more health and energy from CC. The damage you lose from lower deadly arts is negligible when each Discord hits for 20 more anyway.

Even if I decided not to use soul reaping, I'd still go N/A for the damage + better CC.

This build is not discord spamming. It may appear that way but discord is more of a finishing move than anything. By the time you cast discord, your opponent is near death depending on his health or if he's protected. I'll try it as N/A but I've already crunched the numbers and there's more damage from A/N. If they don't die after you cast discord twice you back off cause they are getting healed.

It's a sick spike, it may look noobish cause I'm using a death magic elite but trust me it rapes go try it out. Dancing daggers doesn't hurt much but it's 78 damage then a knockdown and poison. Then the spike of 200 armour ignoring damage and deep wound. If they're not dead another 94 from discord and they will be.

I'm trying parasitic bond in place of malign just for the heck of it, it's easier on the energy.

All the one's insulting me it's ok I'm used to hearing that kind of thing from kids that are depressed and wanna make everyone else feel as bad as they are so I feel for ya. Life will get better if you put some effort into it.

Neverending Silence · Mar 01, 2007, 04:35 PM // 16:35

i tested out the build and it works well enough. the survivability isnt grt but is good enough to get the job done first. it killed quite well in PVE but not as good in AB or RA, still the build has potential.

Priest Of Sin · Mar 01, 2007, 05:04 PM // 17:04

I'm not a fan of random masterless minions running around, but I did enjoy capping Discord on my assassin. The Build though... an assassin with dagger attacks kills faster and more efficently. Fun to use tho

pingu666 · Mar 01, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36

isnt augury of death a hex, so u can drop the minion one?

African War Lord · Mar 01, 2007, 08:03 PM // 20:03

thx for the positive comments guys. Neverending silence your right the survivablity is not great. You need a good healer backing you to really go far but I did just get another glad with this build and we didn't have any healers so it's slightly possible to stay alive with some luck. I'm glad you see the potential though.

To priest of sin your also right, daggers will most likely kill faster but the advantage I get is you can't stop my combo with blind or blocking. And many people see a sin and think better blind him!! they don't usually think of putting caster counters on you. Many times I still get blinded or blurred vision it's great, they just wasted a skill on me.

To pingu666 Augury of death will end when damage drops them below 50% and turn into a deep wound so I need another hex for the discord follow up.

I really do need a better hex though, I'm trying parasitic bond but a 48 heal just feels like a wasted skill slot. Lemme know if you guys think of a better hex!!

Kiba of hidden leaf · Mar 01, 2007, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by Trixz

PVE is bad.

The game is bad? PvE is not better than PvP vise versa. If you just play PvP then its your loss.

Corinthian · Mar 01, 2007, 09:05 PM // 21:05

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Originally Posted by African War Lord

I really do need a better hex though, I'm trying parasitic bond but a 48 heal just feels like a wasted skill slot. Lemme know if you guys think of a better hex!!

Siphon Speed. Fast recharge, low cost, long duration & they won't run away from you so easily.

Pick Me · Mar 01, 2007, 09:07 PM // 21:07

Have you tried:

Vile Miasma - works well as a hex if a condition is already set on.

Rising Bile - nice hex that does damage per second, once it ends (or is removed)

If you don't like those from DM, then try these curses:

Defile Flesh
Shadow Of Fear
Life Siphon

Personally I love Parasitic Bond. Who cares if you don't get much healing, its cheap, spamable and I think its the best cover hex in the game.