Curse

Maikar · Feb 22, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by Darth Kukulkan

Yeah, let's everyone take mystic regeneration, that's free -_-.
You know, I am water spiker and I think exactly the same from earth tanks than you think of me, but let me explain a bit, for you don't seem to really play an ele since longtime ago...
So : your earth tank does not do any damage, stone dagger only is damaging in your build, eruption is really good at blinding mobs, but not for damage... and why mystic regeneration ? I hate this skill every one getting it but it does'nt heal you much... take aura of restoration with spammable daggers, that's my opinion.
And WHAT is wrong with the water spiker ? It is reallly really really powerfull, you don't seem to realize shaterstone's power : it's godly, gaze of contempt is good, but I presonnaly prefer rend enchantments since the buff : you know it's for vapor blade to really spike your face down ? And it removes all your enchant, you become skishy, our sins can take you down in 5 secs maximum ! You don't seem to realize that your only weakness is enchant removal, and it's a HUGE weakness !
And LOL let's look the recharge time of water spike : 8 seconds ! Yours : 30 secs... mmmh is there any other doubt on your uselessness, except for farming (ah sorry I forgot you don't know PvP is not farming sorry again...)
Please all stop making only earth tanking eles, it's really insulting for us true eles in pvp, now everytime I run an earth build in AB my team wants me to ping my build to verify i'm not useless tanker :/ annoying, you bring some shame on eles, like toucher did on rangers

EDIT : And the water build doesn't suck at all man : http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:E/N_Shattering_Vapor just play it -_-

I didn't say my build was anything amazing or the best nuker or anything along those lines...I simply stated that it's not completely useless. There's worse builds I'm sure.

I'm not in such a mood to debate as I was the other night, so I won't really say anything to most of the people who posted except the person right before me.

Yeah, I know the waterspike can kill a monk easily..I've done it..however I get called primary the moment I cast gaze of contempt, which gives me just about enough time to spike him before I drop as well. That's fairly useless considering the monk will be back as long as at least one person on their team has a res signet. And generally people complain when I died in such a fashion....yet it's what they all seem to want as opposed to something that can stay alive.

P.S. - You'll all be happy to know that I give up and am fed up and I'm just keeping the stoneflesh tank to PvE. I'm tired of healing it's completely useless...I'm halfway tempted to show them a full tank. Now that's useless.

Go ahead and end discussion here and close the topic or whatever cause I won't really be following up on it. :P

BryanM · Feb 22, 2007, 09:16 PM // 21:16

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Originally Posted by Darth Kukulkan

And WHAT is wrong with the water spiker ? It is reallly really really powerfull, you don't seem to realize shaterstone's power : it's godly

Because it is definitely not a spiker. Especially as an elementalist primary (mesmer++). An assassin can kill someone by themselves within 5 hits - in a little longer than that this build is doing what, ~423 damage on an unarmored, unenchanted target at 18 water? For every ounce of energy the bar gives you?

You could be running Water Trident and Freezing Gust to almost completely mitigate melee opponents. You could be a blinding flash bot, or even the recently noifed blinding surge. You could run a okayish degen; diversionish, so many other things. Condition degen ranger (with interupts of course, which auto-destroys elementalists using these spells that take an eternity to cast) - it just goes on.

Hey, Immolate does 105 damage for 10 energy at 16 fire. It casts in one second. About 40% of its damage ignores armor. It recharges in 3 seconds. It is unconditionally better than Vapor Blade.

You can't call something "godly" that's only mediocre. It's just being weiiiird.

LightningHell · Feb 23, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

Shatterstone can't spike. Giving it away /= true spike.

African War Lord · Feb 23, 2007, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Mystic regen is the main skill here. You don't need all this earth crap to be durable. Get your attunement, aura of resto or another enchant of your choice and mystic regen and your good to go. I laugh when I see an E/D on the other team and he's doing all this armour of earth bullshit while I'm just as durable only I'm killing his team while he prays on the retarded.

I keep mentioning this in other posts but go look at the post ele pressure!!! That can atleast kill people.

xDusT II · Feb 24, 2007, 11:40 AM // 11:40

The shatterstone/vapor blade water spike build (which i prefer to use discharge enchantment with because it works of shaterstones hex and can match vapor's recharge) is really only viable in RA where team co-ordination and communication is non-existant.

Anywhere else shatterstone has the same potential spiking ability as lightning surge. That is to say you may aswell be yelling out "I'll be spiking X in 3 seconds if that's ok with you! If not just pre-prot him!" to the enemy.

Edge Martinez · Feb 24, 2007, 10:36 PM // 22:36

My advice (to the OP) would be to look at other ways of hurting the other team. Taking a person, or persons, out of the fight is as good as hurting them. I would also play around with Mesmer as a secondary for an earth build. Be it domination or illusion, a /Me gives you a ton of options. A simple skill like Distortion can give you quite a bit of flexibility in your skill bar, especially companioned with armor of earth and ward vs. elements.

Coloneh · Feb 24, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46

I dont care what build you use. if you are not a healer, and you dont bring a rez, you are absolutely worthless and i would rather have a henchmen.