Curse

- Tain - · Dec 13, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Truthfull healer

Where do you farm in the gates of Kryta mission, i keep dying all the time.

When you enter the mission, follow the left wall through the fence to where Oink is. Behind the house next to Oink is a path that leads down the hill; at the bottom is a Hellhound and a few Grasping Ghouls will pop up as well. When you kill the Hellhound it spawns a large bunch of undead including Hounds, Ghouls, and 3 Zombie Warlocks.

One problem you might be having is that this build doesn't work as well for GoK

Try this:

Lava Font - Flame Burst - Rodgort's Invocation - Glyph of Sacrifice - Meteor Shower - Fire Attunement - Elemental Attunement - Aura of Restoration

At the top of the hill, use your 3 enchants. Run to the bottom of the hill, use Lava Font then Flame burst to kill the Hound and Ghouls. Keep spamming those as the big mob comes, they'll all die when they reach you. When the 3 Warlocks get in range, use Glyph of Sacrifice and Meteor Shower on them. Follow up with Rodgort's Invocation on them (sometimes they don't die from MS alone, whether through Dark Bond or just standing too far apart).

Francis Crawford · Dec 13, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31

I haven't tried exactly what's posted here yet. Instead, I've been trying to pin minotaurs with Meteor Shower followed by Meteor, with Mark of Rodgort and Flame Burst in the mix, and in one version also Inferno.

It has NOT gone well.

Meteor Shower/Frozen Burst didn't work for me either, but I only tried once or so, so that doesn't prove anything except my lack of coordination.

- Tain - · Dec 13, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Francis, I'd be happy to help you out in-game. I can show you the technique, and also try and work out what's going wrong for you

From what you've said, though, I think you're going about it the wrong way. Just pinning them isn't enough, this build works so well because it deals enough damage to kill them before they have a chance to even think about running away, while you're protected by Mist Form. It's all about dropping a lot of high damage spells, and quickly. Using Glyph of Sacrifice changes Meteor Shower from 5 seconds to 0 seconds to cast it, Bed of Coals deals more damage and makes them burn (-7 degen) because MS knocks them down. Lava Font, Frozen Burst, and Flame Burst are all high damage area spells with very short cast times, and Frozen Burst has the added benefit of snaring them.

mwpeck · Dec 13, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by - Tain -

Francis, I'd be happy to help you out in-game. I can show you the technique, and also try and work out what's going wrong for you

Tain can help you, he sure helped me a lot.

Another reason Mino's are harder to farm than trolls is they use Endure Pain, being lvl 20, they have 480 health. Then they get about +250 from Endure pain, giving them about 200 more life than trolls.

When I do them since I dont have factions therefore cant use Bed of Coals. When they run, I run back a little then cast lava font again, followed by a Flame Burst when they get close, that works every time. :P

dont feel no pain · Dec 13, 2006, 09:17 PM // 21:17

new tip!!!!::::::

in order:

G of sac
M shower
bed of coals
Lava font
wait one second!!!
then inferno

= instant trolls dead! no cleanup or anything

so no freezing or whirlwind... just wait a second and they get hit by the third metoer =] then cast inferno

mwpeck · Dec 13, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

in order:

G of sac
M shower
Lava font
wait one second!!!
then inferno

= instant trolls dead! no cleanup or anything

so no freezing or whirlwind... just wait a second and they get hit by the third metoer =] then cast inferno

Hmmm....no need for Bed of Coals/Mark of Rodgort(I dont have factions)?

- Tain - · Dec 13, 2006, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Just tried with that ^

I'm guessing he forgot to write in the Bed/Mark.. in 20 runs it didn't work once, and I varied the timing a few times just to make sure. With Bed/Mark in, it does do enough to kill them, though. Frozen Burst is just a 'safety' skill, and I'd rather use it just to make sure that everything stays and dies. That's worth the 3/4 second you spend casting it.

dont feel no pain · Dec 13, 2006, 10:45 PM // 22:45

woops my bad i ment to put bed of coals in, Im gonna try and sort out a build for people with factions or nightfall =]

Slomo · Dec 13, 2006, 10:58 PM // 22:58

any of these builds + either Liquid Flame or Searing Flames?

does that do the trick?

i know those are NF skills, but hey, i'm only trying to help...

i think i'll go try it out right about... tomorrow...

- Tain - · Dec 13, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Searing Flames is elite, so you would need to take out Mist Form... not healthy

Liquid Flame is nice damage, only downside would be if they're knocked down they wouldn't be "attacking or casting a spell" so it wouldn't trigger the second half of the damage. That, and you have to pick a target (I'm far too lazy for that, lol)

Slomo · Dec 13, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03

Thnx for clearing that up, no need for me to go die horribly anytime soon then...

dont feel no pain · Dec 13, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04

someone with nightfall try slmo's lol...

i dont own it (>_<)

mwpeck · Dec 13, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

someone with nightfall try slmo's lol...

i dont own it (>_<)

I would, but seeing as this is a prophecies farm and Flame Burst(or inferno) is a prophecies skill. AND Liquid Flame does less dmg for 5 less energy(if you use burst, the same energy if you use inferno), and it relies on them attacking to hit all of them. I think Flame Burst or Inferno are better skills for this use.

And as Tain said, Searing Flames is elite, so you would have to take out Mist Form. :P

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Originally Posted by - Tain-

That, and you have to pick a target (I'm far too lazy for that, lol)

Ah, but you must choose a target for Meteor Shower, yes? :P

- Tain - · Dec 14, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42

Stop being picky :P
But yes, until you find a NF or Factions spot that this works for, I don't think we need to worry about replacing the Proph skills.

Francis Crawford · Dec 14, 2006, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Thanks, guys!

I'll try again with the minotaurs.

Also -- why Glyph of Sacrifice on the MS? Is that just because Mist Form would otherwise run out while they're still attacking? Well, against trolls there's also the interrupt issue, but that doesn't arise vs. minotaurs.

mwpeck · Dec 14, 2006, 02:12 AM // 02:12

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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford

Thanks, guys!

I'll try again with the minotaurs.

Also -- why Glyph of Sacrifice on the MS? Is that just because Mist Form would otherwise run out while they're still attacking? Well, against trolls there's also the interrupt issue, but that doesn't arise vs. minotaurs.

I would say the reason I personally use Glyph of Sacrifice is to make it go faster. My friend doesnt use Glyph of Sacrifice and he does fine.(though he DOES have factions and uses bed of coals, though)

My Mist Form lasts 16 seconds(16 * 20% = 19 seconds total), and I pull my whole combo off in about 10 seconds, counting the recharge and aftercast effects.(might be a little more, never really timed it) Without Glyph of Sacrifice, I could probably still do it fine, it would just take longer. As for interrupts, their not a problem.......you only get adrenaline when you hit the target, Mist Form acts as if they dont hit you(you dont see -0, they simply just fail to hit), therefore the ONLY adrenaline they get is from the damage you do to them, and by the time you do enough damage for them to have enough adrenaline to interrupt you, you are done your combo.

As for the Mino's....Since I dont have Bed of Coals, I have to finish my combo, run a second or 2 away from them and put down another lava font, the ones that didnt die at the end of my combo, are killed when they run through the 2nd lava font.

Francis Crawford · Dec 14, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

Oooh. No adrenaline. NOW I understand why Mist Form is favored over non-elite earth enchantments.

Truthfull healer · Dec 14, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by - Tain -

When you enter the mission, follow the left wall through the fence to where Oink is. Behind the house next to Oink is a path that leads down the hill; at the bottom is a Hellhound and a few Grasping Ghouls will pop up as well. When you kill the Hellhound it spawns a large bunch of undead including Hounds, Ghouls, and 3 Zombie Warlocks.

One problem you might be having is that this build doesn't work as well for GoK

Try this:

Lava Font - Flame Burst - Rodgort's Invocation - Glyph of Sacrifice - Meteor Shower - Fire Attunement - Elemental Attunement - Aura of Restoration

At the top of the hill, use your 3 enchants. Run to the bottom of the hill, use Lava Font then Flame burst to kill the Hound and Ghouls. Keep spamming those as the big mob comes, they'll all die when they reach you. When the 3 Warlocks get in range, use Glyph of Sacrifice and Meteor Shower on them. Follow up with Rodgort's Invocation on them (sometimes they don't die from MS alone, whether through Dark Bond or just standing too far apart).

TNX a lot, i'll try as soon as I can.

For minotaurs i usually arcane echo mist form, this gives me almost 60 seconds of mist form (otherwise i always die because some minotaurs come in later and kill me). See this link: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:E...ter_The_Update

mwpeck · Dec 14, 2006, 01:57 PM // 13:57

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Originally Posted by Truthfull healer

TNX a lot, i'll try as soon as I can.

For minotaurs i usually arcane echo mist form, this gives me almost 60 seconds of mist form (otherwise i always die because some minotaurs come in later and kill me). See this link: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:E...ter_The_Update

I run around the water hole thing about 3 times to get them all, works great and I've been able to kill all of them every time.

Dementiak · Dec 14, 2006, 03:13 PM // 15:13

Heres my two cents...

I noticed that only six ele skills are needed to kill the group of trolls.

So i changed the second prof to ranger, and put in stormchaser (zero att points)... it makes the run to the cave completely effortless.

I tried using edge of extinction to kill the two bosses (after annihilating the first group and recharging to full potential) .... but so far I havent been able to do it, it was worth the try though

anyone here figure out a way to kill these bosses as a bonus using this build, as if one million troll tusks weren't enough?