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Old Mar 19, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47   #1
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Default Dual A/me farm possibly infinite Shadow Form, no need for SoH

Ok sorry I don't have a real build yet or anything but here's the idea.

Using 2 A/me one brings Shadow form and mimicry; the other Assassin's promise and mimicry.
Assassin's promise does recharge Shadow form and mimicry. So posssibly if done right, you will have infinite shadow form up and attacks. Not near experienced enough to really try it myself, but it does work. Plus no need for SoH or Dash. You will need to kill the 2nd or 3rd enemy when mimicry end to recharge it. Still workin out all the kinks to it, need some oppinions and ideas.

The rest is up to you for now. Will try to update it later.

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Thanks to blades of xylem for helpin test it some.

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Old Mar 19, 2007, 09:52 PM // 21:52   #2
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i don't think that the promise will recharge the arcane echo, when it's replaced
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Old Mar 19, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07   #3
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it does i have already tested it. You just need to kill the 1st enemy before it ends then kill the 2nd one and mimicry should be recharging and assassins promise will recharge it.

Mimicry seems to copy the elite skill last used though so it could take alot of practice to perfect it possibly.

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Old Mar 19, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50   #4
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im blades of xylem!! woot!

btw for some reason when i duo with u i always get shadwo form lol and i need promise :P

P.S. im better than jager anyday lol
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35   #5
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I think mimicry copies the leftmost (lowest numbered) elite skill if the target happens to have more than one.
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26   #6
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it recharges disabled skills??

hmm i'll test this out too.

u might need to time it well to since if mimicry ends.... it takes 60 secs to recharge well i guess u could run away if u miess up
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 05:50 AM // 05:50   #7
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ahmmmm, aren't there TWO elites there....?
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53   #8
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ahmmmm, aren't there TWO elites there....?
very astute, reading comprehension FTW.

good idea but, mimicry does in fact always copy the first elite on a skillbar with 2 elites. try it outside of great temple.
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 12:40 PM // 12:40   #9
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u would still need the atributes very spread to shadow, deadly and something to kill,
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 01:15 PM // 13:15   #10
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Hi there,

A dual A/Me permanent shadow form build already exists, just need 4 skills instead of 3...and some good synchro to make it work.
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17   #11
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what about D/A with 16 mysticism + enchantments last longer 20% weapon

use extend enchantments + deadly paradox + shadow form = you get 25 sec shadow form and it recharges after 30 sec
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 03:31 PM // 15:31   #12
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what about D/A with 16 mysticism + enchantments last longer 20% weapon

use extend enchantments + deadly paradox + shadow form = you get 25 sec shadow form and it recharges after 30 sec
You don't need all that to get a 25 second SF. A sin primary + 20% enchant is already 25 seconds long.
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 03:32 PM // 15:32   #13
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what about D/A with 16 mysticism + enchantments last longer 20% weapon

use extend enchantments + deadly paradox + shadow form = you get 25 sec shadow form and it recharges after 30 sec
You don't need all that to get a 25 second SF. A sin primary (16 shadow) + 20% enchant is already 25 seconds long.
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 03:45 PM // 15:45   #14
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Wouldn't this work:

A/R: Deadly Paradox, Arcane Mimicry, Shadow Form, Serpents Quickness
X/Mesmer: Echo, ...

Chain would be:
SQ->Mimicry->Echo->DP->(Real SF)->25 Seconds->(Echoed SF)->25 Seconds->Start Over

I haven't tried it in game, so that may not work...Just a thought

Another thought might be to go:

A/E: Deadly Paradox, Arcane Mimicry, Shadow Form, Sliver Armor
R/Me: Echo, Quickened Zephyr

If that works, that would be nice.

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Old Mar 20, 2007, 04:00 PM // 16:00   #15
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Wouldn't this work:

A/R: Deadly Paradox, Arcane Mimicry, Shadow Form, Serpents Quickness
X/Mesmer: Echo, ...

Chain would be:
SQ->Mimicry->Echo->DP->(Real SF)->25 Seconds->(Echoed SF)->25 Seconds->Start Over

I haven't tried it in game, so that may not work...Just a thought

Another thought might be to go:

A/E: Deadly Paradox, Arcane Mimicry, Shadow Form, Sliver Armor
R/Me: Echo, Quickened Zephyr

If that works, that would be nice.
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arcane mimicry is mesmer, so you can't use it without being A/Me
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 04:49 PM // 16:49   #16
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...maybe some precisions:

2 A/Me with Deadly Paradox, Arcane Echo, Arcane Mimicry, Shadow Form + 4 other skills

DP->AE->SF->SF(AEchoed)->SF->Arcane Mimicry SF of the other A/Me -> SF(AMimicried)
-> DP->AE->SF->and the loop goes on and on and on...
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35   #17
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anyways, mimicry still copies the leftmost elite if you have more than one, so it's all about positioning skills on your friends' skillbar. btw it'd be cool for tanking, but still you need something to deal dmg with, and with a/me there's not much to kill with, untill you want to wand to death...

btw. tank tank... hmm... let me think... oh my! doa !! rawr!!! gloom a/me as tank w00t :P but that's without ward vs foes and you loose 1 ele or monk... uhh... still it's good basis to work on. anyways, you could drop bonder as you don't get hit ;S
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53   #18
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Originally Posted by Hengist Meldanash
Hi there,

A dual A/Me permanent shadow form build already exists, just need 4 skills instead of 3...and some good synchro to make it work.
can u plz post it?

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another thing for those who dont know, skill recharge is capped to 50%
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 09:53 PM // 21:53   #19
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Originally Posted by Hengist Meldanash
Hi there,

A dual A/Me permanent shadow form build already exists, just need 4 skills instead of 3...and some good synchro to make it work.
can u plz post it?

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another thing for those who dont know, skill recharge is capped to 50%
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Old Mar 20, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12   #20
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how about an A/R with a ranger to duo with you, maybe with EoE or other stuff on the ranger.

A/R:
Shadow Form
Serpents Quickness
Attack Skills

R/X:
Quickening Zephyr
Serpents Quickness
EoE

serpents is there to keep up quickening zephyr

it should work, but not tested, i will surely make a sin soon though!
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