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Old Mar 13, 2007, 03:56 PM // 15:56   #1
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Default W/N Zidane Spiker

Profession: Warrior/Necromancer

Armor: Gladiators/Radiant

Weapons: Silencing 15%/-5 Axe of Fortitude, Zealous 15^50 Axe of Fortitude

Runes: Superior Strength, Superior Vigor, Minor Axe, 2x Attunement

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13 Axe Mastery

Skills:
[skill]Headbutt[/skill][skill]Plague Touch[/skill][skill]Critical Chop[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Useage: Very simple. Find a target, and smack him with Headbutt with your Silencing equipment. Then use Plague Touch on him to transfer the Dazed, but remember to keep your Silencing Axe equipped. The dazed with be an extra 33% on you, which you transfer, but since you are applying dazed it will be calculated again, resulting in ~66% lengthen of dazed, or about 50 seconds. After plague touching, switch to your Zealous set and use Critical Chop, Dismember, Executioners Strike. The resulting Damage spike will kill just about anything. Keep frenzy up whenever available. Use rush to cancel it.

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Old Mar 13, 2007, 03:57 PM // 15:57   #2
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Default W/N Zidane Spiker

Profession: Warrior/Necromancer

Armor: Gladiators/Radiant

Weapons: Silencing 15%/-5 Axe of Fortitude, Zealous 15^50 Axe of Fortitude

Runes: Superior Strength, Superior Vigor, Minor Axe, 2x Attunement

Attributes:
16 Strength
13 Axe Mastery

Skills:
[skill]Headbutt[/skill][skill]Plague Touch[/skill][skill]Critical Chop[/skill][skill]Dismember[/skill][skill]Executioner's Strike[/skill][skill]Frenzy[/skill][skill]Rush[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Useage: Very simple. Find a target, and smack him with Headbutt with your Silencing equipment. Then use Plague Touch on him to transfer the Dazed, but remember to keep your Silencing Axe equipped. The dazed with be an extra 33% on you, which you transfer, but since you are applying dazed it will be calculated again, resulting in ~66% lengthen of dazed, or about 30 seconds. After plague touching, switch to your Zealous set and use Critical Chop, Dismember, Executioners Strike. The resulting Damage spike will kill just about anything. Keep frenzy up whenever available. Use rush to cancel it.

Thoughts?
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 05:49 PM // 17:49   #3
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I like it

But I think something might be better then Frenzy? Tiger Stance maybe? It doesnt slow you down like Flail does.

And I would try to find a way to fit Lion's comfort int here too maybe? I know in PVP or PVE monks are in charge of healing, but a battle heal is often great

Maybe drop axe to 12, put the remainder into Tacts and replace Critical Chop for Lions Comfort

With the 16 in strength and the points in Tactics you could heal yourself effectively with Tiger Stance.

My two cents
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 06:01 PM // 18:01   #4
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your missing a self heal
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04   #5
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I like it, although its pretty nrg hefty, it seems pretty decent; especially if ur trying to bring down a monk. GJ
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 06:29 PM // 18:29   #6
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lol thats what happens when you have two threads

but I like it

But I think something might be better then Frenzy? Tiger Stance maybe? It doesnt slow you down like Flail does.

And I would try to find a way to fit Lion's comfort int here too maybe? I know in PVP or PVE monks are in charge of healing, but a battle heal is often great

Maybe drop axe to 12, put the remainder into Tacts and replace Critical Chop for Lions Comfort

With the 16 in strength and the points in Tactics you could heal yourself effectively with Tiger Stance.

My two cents
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38   #7
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1st thing- Nice name lol. I'd probably change frenzy for another IAS depending on where I was going but otherwise cant wait to try it lol. 1 more thing, i dont understand

"The dazed with be an extra 33% on you, which you transfer, but since you are applying dazed it will be calculated again, resulting in ~66% lengthen of dazed, or about 50 seconds. "

Could somebody explain it abit more, like how it gets to 50 seconds of dazed
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Old Mar 13, 2007, 06:38 PM // 18:38   #8
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1st thing- Nice name lol. I'd probably change frenzy for another IAS depending on where I was going but otherwise cant wait to try it lol. 1 more thing, i dont understand

"The dazed with be an extra 33% on you, which you transfer, but since you are applying dazed it will be calculated again, resulting in ~66% lengthen of dazed, or about 50 seconds. "

Could somebody explain it abit more, like how it gets to 50 seconds of dazed

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Old Mar 13, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26   #9
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I find using final thrust with headbutt works well, something like:
Sever Artery, Gash, Headbutt, Final Thrust, Plague Touch, Tiger Stance, Lions Comfort, Rez

The attack chain is very good just use it in that order, but I have not tried the whole build in any PvP yet.

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Old Mar 13, 2007, 07:31 PM // 19:31   #10
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Nice name


hope this build works better than my Headbutt build xD
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Old Mar 14, 2007, 05:49 PM // 17:49   #11
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I've been using a headbutt plague touch build some time ago and it worked fine but I got some energy problems. Just stupid I've never thought about using a zealous weapon. But does a silencing axe really exist? I really haven't seen one or heard about it untill now . I've been using silencing daggers instead for the headbutt + plague touch and then switching weapons again.

And about the duration, it's 21 seconds on 16 strength. +33% will give +7 seconds, so that's 28. After that distract 0.75 second (plague touch cast time). Then add 33% again. The total time will be 36⅓ seconds exactly. (lol now I have to clock it myself in isle of the nameless to check )

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Old Mar 14, 2007, 11:22 PM // 23:22   #12
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I like it with Tiger Stance and using a hammer. You can smoke a caster in seconds.
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Old Mar 14, 2007, 11:29 PM // 23:29   #13
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Wouldn't 16 Axe and 13 Strength be better? You really don't need 50 seconds of dazed, if your team can't kill a dazed monk in 10 seconds then you need to get a new team. And the damage on Headbutt only drops by about ~15 and you get higher damage from your axe attacks.
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Old Mar 14, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31   #14
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I like it with Tiger Stance and using a hammer. You can smoke a caster in seconds.
Tigers Stance is a pretty bad IAS compared to frenzy and flail.
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Old Mar 14, 2007, 11:52 PM // 23:52   #15
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Tigers Stance is a pretty bad IAS compared to frenzy and flail.
They'll be dead before it wears off. I know the energy cost makes it rough, but you can't get the initial burst from Flail (adren) and you can get killed with Frenzy trying to run the skill bar.

With Hammers, I use HB, PT, Mighty Blow, Yeti Smash, Hammer Bash.

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Old Mar 15, 2007, 12:16 AM // 00:16   #16
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Originally Posted by Flightmare
But does a silencing axe really exist? I really haven't seen one or heard about it untill now . I've been using silencing daggers instead for the headbutt + plague touch and then switching weapons again.

And about the duration, it's 21 seconds on 16 strength. +33% will give +7 seconds, so that's 28. After that distract 0.75 second (plague touch cast time). Then add 33% again. The total time will be 36⅓ seconds exactly. (lol now I have to clock it myself in isle of the nameless to check )
There is no such thing as a silencing axe. The only way you can lengthen dazed in theory is to wield a bow, spear, or pair of daggers when using Headbutt, then switch back to the axe after.
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Old Mar 15, 2007, 11:13 AM // 11:13   #17
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I would for final thrust or hammer bash so that I could use burst of aggression as my IAS. With that high amount of strength used in this build, BoA should suffice.
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Old Mar 15, 2007, 04:59 PM // 16:59   #18
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Just run in with shield and weapon, when your up close, switch to Silencing Daggers, Headbutt, attack and kill
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Old Mar 16, 2007, 06:18 PM // 18:18   #19
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This is just like the top post in this forum. Exactly the same. So read my comments there and stop coppying each others builds jeesh.
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Old Mar 17, 2007, 06:55 AM // 06:55   #20
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They'll be dead before it wears off. I know the energy cost makes it rough, but you can't get the initial burst from Flail (adren) and you can get killed with Frenzy trying to run the skill bar.
But it ends if any of your attacks are blocked or misses.. which includes the first one.
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