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Xeones The Great · Mar 12, 2007, 12:33 AM // 00:33

ok, heres the deal. im making a healers boon monk, but im confused in skill choice.

needed attributes- 16 healin, 13 divine.

needed skills- HB (duh), ethereal light, GolE, Heal Party, Restore Life.

missing 3 skills, but have 7 in mind. Orison of Healing for a 140+ heal with HB. Dwayna's Kiss when ally is stacked with enchants/hexes. Dismiss Condition for condition removal. Healing Touch for a ginormous self-heal. Vigorous Spirit would work with Dwayna's Kiss, and relieve me of healing casters/attackers. Words of Comfort for huge heal to allies suffering from conditions. Infuse Health for a 540hp (ZOMG) spike-negating heal.

ANY HELP?

P.S.-2nd thread, 1st had a typo, please delete, ty.

moko · Mar 12, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50

Healers boon and infuse is lol.

Healers boon is turning your spells into mini infuses already.

try something like;

Healers Boon, Heal Other, Ethereal, Heal Party, Gole, Dismiss, Restore Life (although i'd take a res out if i was you), Holy Veil/Signet of Rej./Healing Touch

ZenRgy · Mar 12, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

Res Chant > Restore Life.

You shouldn't need infuse, health other is basically as fast, and I'm not sure why you'd run healer's boon, the only benefit it has is 120 point heal parties. I'd rather run LoD.

Age · Mar 12, 2007, 09:34 AM // 09:34

This might interest you Healers BoonDo a little searching.

olly123 · Mar 12, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

if u where to ru na hb build ( id prefer LoD, but its up 2 u tbh) id take

HB, Heal other,healing touch,kiss,Orsiron, Holy Veil, Heal party GolE, Res

tho id prefer LoD for anti pressuer, an di have 2 hea dpeices so i coudl cast HB with sup divine and change for a sup healing

Effigy · Mar 12, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenRgy

Res Chant > Restore Life.

You shouldn't need infuse, health other is basically as fast, and I'm not sure why you'd run healer's boon, the only benefit it has is 120 point heal parties. I'd rather run LoD.

Res Chant is tempting with HBoon, but I stick to Rebirth or no res. Taking four seconds off from healing can be dangerous, and Res Chant isn't something you can just cancel midcast like Sig of Devotion.

The beefy HPs with HBoon are definitely nice, but that's not the only think it has going. All your heals are faster and better with this elite. The problem with HBoon isn't the skill itself, but that lack of good Healing Prayers spells in general. LoD is more flexible, I agree, but this also has a lot of potential.

Mr Bartel · Mar 12, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

omg, no HB it cost 10 mana, then it is stripped by a mesmer and the guy wanted to heal takes 100+dmg and u loose 10 mana ....

Ajantis · Mar 12, 2007, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Yeah! Quit using any enchants whatsoever.. Mesmers strip them!!1

Age · Mar 12, 2007, 06:26 PM // 18:26

Healers Boon works wonders with Dwayna's Kiss and some not so bad healing spells as well as heal party.I would suggest you read my thread for build ideas.

Xeones The Great · Mar 12, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

lol some major HB hate here. Healer's Boon is awesome unless stripped, which in PvE isnt so common. and LoD can be covered with heal party+GoLE, so it isnt really worth that elite skill slot. WoH, every1 says it sucks. Glimmer, its too weak. spammable, but weak. so heal elites are garbage eh?

@olly123: u have 9 skills =P

@HB haters: HB is an amazing elite. if it gets stripped, you can recast it fairly quickly as it has 10 sec recharge. even if u cant recast it, you still have dwaynas kiss, ethereal and bla bla bl to heal while its recharging.

what ive conjured up from ppl who *actually gave me constructive criticism* is this:

Mo/E

Healing Prayers-12,3,1
Divine Favor-12,1
Protection Prayers-3

[skill]Healer's Boon[/skill]
[skill]Ethereal Light[/skill]
[skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill]
[skill]Heal Other[/skill] OR [skill]Jamei's Gaze[/skill]
[skill]Dismiss Condition[/skill]
[skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill]
[skill]Heal Party[/skill]
[skill]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

1 - The elite. You all know what it does. 10 energy. 0.25 second cast. 10 second recharge.
2 - 5 energy. 0.5 second cast. 200hp heal. 5 second recharge.
3 - 5 energy. 0.5 second cast. 137hp heal + 37/enchantement or hex. 3 second recharge.
4 - 10 energy. 0.375 second cast. 327hp heal. 3 second recharge.
5 - 5 energy. 0.75 second cast. Removes one condition from ally. 3 second recharge.
6 - 5 energy. 1 second cast. Next two spells cost 15 less energy. 30 second recharge.
7 - 15 energy. 1 second cast. Heal entire party for 126. 2 second recharge.
8 - 10 energy. 3 second cast. Resurrect ally with your health and 37% energy. 15 second recharge.

Staff of the Forgotten -
+15 energy
+5 energy while health is above 50%
Health + 30
Halves skill recharge of all spells (Chance: 20%)

Runes -
Superior Healing Prayers
Minor Divine Favor
Superior Vigor
Vitae x2

Armor Insignia -
Survivor on all pieces (+40 health)

Health - 545
Energy - 50>>>

I'm pretty sure this is my final build unless anyone can find any fatal mistakes in it. Please, constructive criticism and not whining about Healer's Boon supposed-suckiness. Thanks.

moko · Mar 12, 2007, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Bartel

omg, no HB it cost 10 mana, then it is stripped by a mesmer and the guy wanted to heal takes 100+dmg and u loose 10 mana ....

this is the worst crap ive seen in a while. :I

Xeones The Great · Mar 12, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

ty mokone lolz. but just wondering, wouldnt orison be better than heal other in this situation as my main spammy heal? cuz ethereal has 5 sec recharge, and that seems like too much time to wait. so waddya think? orison > heal other? or should i keep the above build w/ ethereal as my main heal?

Effigy · Mar 13, 2007, 12:50 PM // 12:50

I don't like Orison much. Heal Other isn't meant to be spammed; it's more of an emergency heal when someone is going down fast. In all honesty, you could just drop Res Chant and take Sig of Devotion for noncritical heals to save yourself some energy, but it may not be necessary if you're using GoLE to the full potential (i.e. 2 HPs, HP+Other, etc). Res Chant is too risky when the team is relying on you for heals. So I'd recommend either Rebirth or Sig of Devotion.

Also, why is everyone saying HBoon is 10e? Granted I haven't used it in a little while, but in the past it's always been 5e, and that's what GuildWiki has it listed as right now.

Xeones The Great · Mar 13, 2007, 07:39 PM // 19:39

im not a fan of sig of devotion as it has no divine favor gain, and doesnt heal for much. but effigy, what im saying is that what will be my main heal?!?!?! i can count on ethereal light cuz it has a 5 second recharge. say 2 ppl took hits for 150hp. i would have to use ethereal and wait 5 sec then ethereal again. im not wasting heal other on 150hp, and dwaynas kiss would be weak w/o hexes. i need a spammable, cheap, main heal. thats the only reason why orison was made. everyone who hates the skill doesnt see it in this manner. its the only full-range skill with a decent heal (151 with HB on) and 2 seconds of recharge.

about rez chant. rezzing midbattle isnt too bad. its only 3 seconds! 3!!!!! if a person dies in 3 seconds, wtf?!?!? if he takes serious damage, thats what HB is for. 0.38 second heal other. heal party w/o HB is a 2 sec cast, yet monks still bring it. add 1 second on to that to rez a person to maximum health, and u have a good deal. w/o HB, of course, rezzing midbattle is stupid. but with HB, its much less of a risk. ok, here we go. these are the staple skills i need.

HB
Kiss
Ethereal
GoLE
Dismiss
HParty
Rez Chant

1 skill missing. options: touch, orison, heal other.

*NOTE: CHOOSE ONE, DO NOT CRITICIZE MY BUILD.*

touch - 179 hp self heal
orison - spammable 151 hp heal.
heal other - 340hp massive-spike-heal. (10 energy, not spammable)

basically, it all comes down to this: with my staple skills already, can i count on ethereal to be my main heal, or do i need something like orison?

Xeones The Great · Mar 14, 2007, 11:21 AM // 11:21

yeh its heal other, thx all. close thread plz.

Div · Mar 14, 2007, 04:33 PM // 16:33

I think the key skills here are HB, GoLE, HP, Rez Chant. The other skills can include: Heal other, orison, dwayna's kiss, words of comfort, healing touch, dismiss condition, ethereal light.

Xeones The Great · Mar 14, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06

thx 4 the obvious

CLOSE THREAD

jesh · Mar 15, 2007, 07:47 AM // 07:47

No, the key skill is Heal Party. The other one is Soul Reaping. Then you're on the path to a decent healing prayers character.

N/Mo

10+3+1 or 10+1+1 Soul Reaping
12 Healing Prayers
8 Protection Prayers

Heal Party
Healer's Boon {E}
Protective Spirit
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Res

You can also switch Protection, (and therefore Protective Spirit), out for Blood and spam Order of Pain, or Curses for Mark of Pain if no one else has it.
SR is fine with a minor rune for more HP if needed, I think. 14 just looks pretty.
I find a 100 point Heal Party with Soul Reaping to best LoD in general PvE.
I've beaten Boreas Seabed with no interrupts or protection monks quite easily using this build.

Some favorites for the optional slots include Heal Area, Infuse Health, Ethereal Light, and possibly Signet of Lost Souls.

Xeones The Great · Mar 15, 2007, 10:56 AM // 10:56

whoa there, a bit off-class, huh?

I HAVE MY BUILD, AND I LIKE IT, PLEASE CLOSE THREAD

Xeones The Great · Mar 15, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57

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