Curse

David Spooky · Feb 10, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

I remember back when a Warrior/Monk could farm trolls and minos and it was so much fun. Unfortunatley due to the AI update where mobs of 4 or more rotate damage, this proved to be the end of the common troll and mino warrior farmer. My warrior can still farm Vermin as a W/E, but that gets tiresome and the exp is low. After reading Dont Feel No Pain's Mist Form build I decided to make my Elementalist my main farmer. I was doing awesome but I still miss farming on my Warrior. So I decided to move the template to my Warrior and it works!

You people look at the skills and think, Warriors don't have the energy for this build. Well you're WRONG!

I'd like to thank Dont Feel No Pain's build Pure Fire Ele Troll farm (under 15 second) as inspiration for trying this build on my Warrior, which resulted in success.

ephexx · Feb 10, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51

Well, someone likes using Photoshop don't they?

I wouldn't take the time to get all these skills on my Warrior when I already have them on my ele, with about 70 energy so it's easier and faster, I say leave the ele farming to the eles and move on with your warrior..

No offense, but this build, in my opinion, is more work than it is worth... Minos and Trolls hardly drop anymore anyway, Trolls have great XP, that's about the only thing they've got going for them...

Good build, but like I said, I think you should just leave the ele farming to the eles...

David Spooky · Feb 10, 2007, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by ephexx

No offense, but this build, in my opinion, is more work than it is worth... Minos and Trolls hardly drop anymore anyway, Trolls have great XP, that's about the only thing they've got going for them...

Actually, this build's pretty easy to make, the hardest part is capping Mist Form and you can enter talus chute from Rankor to get it. All the money I used to make the armor/buy skills I made back rather quickly. Also the trolls and minos still drop the same like they used to, last week I got a req 10 15% stanced poisonous fellblade of enchanting (max enchanting mod).

Crusheer · Feb 10, 2007, 07:21 AM // 07:21

LOL

The funniest build i've ever seen! Warrior is using ele skill to kill trolls :P
But good, good idea

David Spooky · Feb 10, 2007, 07:59 AM // 07:59

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Originally Posted by Crusheer

LOL

The funniest build i've ever seen! Warrior is using ele skill to kill trolls :P
But good, good idea

Thanks I guess. I'm wondering how many people will actually get the skills for this build, I didn't have a problem since I unlocked almost all of the non-elites on my Warrior so I could get them for my Ele. XD

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Feb 10, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12

Where did your req 10 fellblade drop? I've been farming trolls pre and post nerf and i've never gotten a max gold item, let alone a white or blue fellblade. Trolls or Minos?

David Spooky · Feb 10, 2007, 09:11 AM // 09:11

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Originally Posted by Xiaxhou of Trinity

Where did your req 10 fellblade drop? I've been farming trolls pre and post nerf and i've never gotten a max gold item, let alone a white or blue fellblade. Trolls or Minos?

Trolls, I get a decent amount of golds and white/blue Fellblades from Trolls with the occasional gold from Minos. (although the minos never drop max golds)

dont feel no pain · Feb 10, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

My GOD!! I dont beieve with a warriors energy and and..... =O good god! ... good going =]

David Spooky · Feb 10, 2007, 10:46 AM // 10:46

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Originally Posted by dont feel no pain

My GOD!! I dont beieve with a warriors energy and and..... =O good god! ... good going =]

To be honest, I didn't think it'd work.

Right now I'm going to experiment and find out the bare minium energy-wise for this build.

ephexx · Feb 10, 2007, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Yeah, ele build for warrior.... I like your thinking, but all you did was take an ele build and stick it on a warrior, making it harder because of the low amount of energy, and you don't have flames eye for the +4 fire magic boost, no energy storage, etc. etc..

And David did you really make your money back from farming trolls and minos?? They don't drop the way they used to, but they do drop somewhat decent still... Some runs you get nothing but crappy troll tusks, and some you get some weapons.

I have gotten a few fellblades from trolls, just no good ones.. only white and blue.. Plenty O' Raven Staffs

XvArchonvX · Feb 10, 2007, 02:30 PM // 14:30

While the presentation is very fancy looking and all, do we really need another troll farming build?? Troll farming has to be one of the least profitable ways of farming.

Find a way to apply this build to an area that actually has semi-decent drops and this might be worth looking at.

Kudos to your excellent ability to present your build in an easy to read and easy on the eyes format though.

ephexx · Feb 10, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Yeah, I agree.. I didn't think about that, we do have a LOT of troll farming builds, 55's can do it, eles can do it, rangers can do it, rits can do it, and probably a dervish but i haven't seen a build for one yet...

Everyone thinks trolls are so good for money, they are pretty useless now, but here and there a purple might drop for you... a week or 2 ago i got my first gold from trolls in like.. a month...

Minos are pretty useless too, especially since the price of their horns went down, they don't drop much of anything else...

David Spooky · Feb 10, 2007, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by ephexx

Yeah, ele build for warrior.... I like your thinking, but all you did was take an ele build and stick it on a warrior, making it harder because of the low amount of energy, and you don't have flames eye for the +4 fire magic boost, no energy storage, etc. etc..

This build kills minos and trolls just as easily as Eles although it's not as fast. Hell this build is somewhat better due to survivability in the rare occurance that one or two minos/trolls don't die due to failed clumping.

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And David did you really make your money back from farming trolls and minos?? They don't drop the way they used to, but they do drop somewhat decent still... Some runs you get nothing but crappy troll tusks, and some you get some weapons.

Don't bash the troll tusks, that's where the money from trolls is made:

5 troll tusks = 40 gold
5 troll tusks for a collector's item in Snake's Dance
Aforementioned collector's item in Snake's Dance = 125 gold
Average (for me) ammount troll tusks dropped per run = 6

You do the math on that one. I don't see people buying tusks at 20 gold each for the bones. ;P

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I have gotten a few fellblades from trolls, just no good ones.. only white and blue.. Plenty O' Raven Staffs

On my ele I've gotten the following:

* Two gold staves that I salvaged for max insightful mods (one of which went on that water staff you see in the first post ;P)
* A req 10 Vampiric Cleaver of Defense (both mods max) with 15% -5 energy.
* A req 10 War axe of Shelter (max shelter, ended up slapping max enchanting and icy mods on it) 15% in a stance.
* A req 10 Poisonous Fellblade of Enchanting (max Enchanting, replaced Poisonous with Zealous) 15% in a stance.

Keep in mind that these were just on my ele whom I haven't been farming with no more than three weeks to a month. Last night on my warrior I got the following:

* A req 10 (tactics) Skeleton shield -5 (19%) Earth Magic +1 (19%), somehow that drop alone screams irony for this whole build idea. (planning on keeping the shield for vermin farming since I run sliver armor/glyph of renewal)
* A req 10 Sundering Warhammer (19% sundering) 15% -10 armor while attacking.

Note that these were drops from the trolls and not chest drops, I almost always get purps from those. Maybe you have shit luck with drops. ;P

ephexx · Feb 10, 2007, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Yes, I know my luck sucks a huge nut with drops, trust me... I wouldn't be searching this forum constantly for new farming spots if my luck did not suck a huge hairy nut drops-wise..

I don't ditch troll tusks, everything and anything that ever drops for me ANYWHERE, white gold blue purple or green, I pick it up and even if it sucks, it's merchant money and something is always better than nothing..

I don't believe how you got all those golds... Trolls aren't that good anymore, I think you got lucky...

About it being better than the ele build, it is not... Heaven forbid one or two minos don't die, you can just use lava font and take them out, I know how to do it at least... I don't farm minos though, trolls are better....

But, usually, when I DO get a drop, it's pretty damn good... at least that's how it is in SF and stuff... but solo farming, I don't get that many golds, don't know why... I wonder if it's some complex system A Net has for each player... I was in FoW the other day, this one guy got like 5 shards a gold chaos axe and another gold staff, everyone else got purples and some others got 1-2 obsidian shards... I got nothing, a few purples and a shitty gold... However I had enough dark remains to sell to the merch for 1.4k...

Llednar · Feb 10, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08

Funny my Ele primary uses that very bar, the trolls are dead in 10seconds or less...you must have a lot of negative energy sets to pull the full nuke combo off on a WARRIOR.

His bar is solid anyways.

Use armor of mist to run to the cave, gather them up and cast the nukes in order.

Marverick · Feb 10, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

Well the only way this would be better on a warrior is if you can tank the trolls without using Mistform. Signet of Stamina + Dolyak + Endure might be enough, then take Savannah Heat as your elite to kill them faster.

ephexx · Feb 10, 2007, 10:37 PM // 22:37

or just don't use a warrior at all to do this.. That always works..

Like I said like 100 times, just leave the Ele farming to the Ele's... I understand that you miss farming them on your warrior, but hey, we all miss the old days of prophecies before they nerfed it to it's last straw.. Trolls are decent, minos suck, and warriors using a 100% ele build to kill them, why is beyond me...

I'm not trying to be mean or be an asshole, but I think your fighting a losing battle.. Warriors can solo other stuff, look at the builds in this forum..

David Spooky · Feb 10, 2007, 11:25 PM // 23:25

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Originally Posted by Marverick

Well the only way this would be better on a warrior is if you can tank the trolls without using Mistform. Signet of Stamina + Dolyak + Endure might be enough, then take Savannah Heat as your elite to kill them faster.

I don't have NF. =P

...Yet. >_>

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Originally Posted by ephexx

I don't believe how you got all those golds... Trolls aren't that good anymore, I think you got lucky...

Sometimes you get a hot streak with golds, doesn't matter what professions you're using, what or where you're farming. How about I post a screenshot in this thread whenever I get a gold item with my warrior citing the date and time it dropped? =P

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Originally Posted by ephexx

About it being better than the ele build, it is not... Heaven forbid one or two minos don't die, you can just use lava font and take them out, I know how to do it at least... I don't farm minos though, trolls are better....

Okay, two trolls survive and Disrupting Chop your lava font and mist form, what do you do? I said the warrior build is SOMEWHAT better because in the RARE occurance of not clumping the trolls together properly he can take a couple of hits without much worry, unlike an ele. The elementalists are faster, but warriors are safer.

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Originally Posted by ephexx

or just don't use a warrior at all to do this.. That always works..

Like I said like 100 times, just leave the Ele farming to the Ele's... I understand that you miss farming them on your warrior, but hey, we all miss the old days of prophecies before they nerfed it to it's last straw.. Trolls are decent, minos suck, and warriors using a 100% ele build to kill them, why is beyond me...

I'm not trying to be mean or be an asshole, but I think your fighting a losing battle.. Warriors can solo other stuff, look at the builds in this forum..

There is no battle being fought, I used my guile to adapt an ele build to a warrior, period. Funny how I'm catching shit and the only ones who think this is cool was Dont feel no pain and Crusheer (at least I think Crusheer's was a compliment). I could have kept this to myself, but I decided to share this as a way to repay the forum for the builds I've seen on here and used. I seriously don't see what your problem is aside from "OMFG, WARRIOR USING ELE SKILLZ! D:<" which is a stupid arguement. Right now you're acting like a broken record, and those are annoying. :/

Coloneh · Feb 11, 2007, 09:38 PM // 21:38

why not just do it with warrior skills like everyone else?

ephexx · Feb 11, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

You could have kept this build to yourself, and it would have changed what... nothing... there are PLENTY of builds for minos and trolls, they have to be among the easiest farming spots... I don't care what you think, lol, honestly, but I don't know how many of you guys actually went out of your way to get all these ele skills on a warrior, and do this build... I agree with Coloneh, just use warrior skills like everyone else..

And that is a *RARE* occason, a mino or 2 survive, but does that mean "Z0MG A MINO SURVIVED MUST USE T3HZ WAR!!" no...

The reason your getting "shit" is because you need to just leave ele builds to eles.....