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Old Feb 26, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36   #1
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Default A/W Physical Tank - Officially Solo'd Shiro

Before you even start saying OMG SINS CANT TANK just take a look at this:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:A/any_Chkkr_Farmer
^Made by me, favored by Wiki. Originally named the Chkkr Farmer before I realized it could do so much more than just farm all 4 Chkkr bosses. For example, how many Assassins do you know that can SOLO Shiro Tagachi at the Gate of Madness? (VIDEO IS BELOW!!!)

The Weapons should be Zealous Daggers of Fortitude or Warding or something along those lines.
The Armor should have enough radiant insignias/runes of attunement to get at least 30 energy and 400+ hp, and preferably Nightstalker's insignias for extra armor bonuses.

General Chkkr/physical damage boss farmer:
[skill]Critical Defenses[/skill][skill]Unsuspecting Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Critical Strike[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]Way of Perfection[/skill][skill]Shadow Refuge[/skill]
Unsuspecting Strike can be swapped for Jagged Strike if a condition > spike.
Dark Escape can be changed for Way of Perfection is a running skill isn't needed.

Simple enough strategy here:
1. Use Dark Escape + Shadow Refuge to run to the boss, avoiding as many aggros as possible.
2. When you reach the boss, pull it away from any surrounding mobs with a longbow.
3. When the boss approaches, cast Critical Defenses and use the first two attack skills.
4. Spam Moebius Strike and one of the dual attacks:
5. Death Blossom for straight damage up to 50% health.
6. Critical Strike for a critical + energy and all damage after 50% health.
7. Use Shadow Refuge/Way of Perfection as needed for healing in the 25% defense gap.

This build can also be used effectively in general PvE, just replace Dark Escape and maybe even Shadow Refuge with other support skills.

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Shiro Solo. Yep thats right.
[skill]Critical Defenses[/skill][skill]Unsuspecting Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Critical Strike[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Blow[/skill][skill]Way of Perfection[/skill][skill]Shadow Refuge[/skill]
(Unsuspecting Strike and Wild Strike can be replaced by Golden Pheonix Strike so that Death Blossom can be kept in the attack chain)
(Only do the above if you don't plan on helping out in the mission itself very much)

Mostly the same as before, but with a few differences:
1. After the Lich is dead, send your party around the perimeter to get the bonus.
2. Put up Critical Defenses and Way of Perfection, maintain WoP as much as possible.
3. Use Unsuspecting Strike, then WAIT for Shiro to use Battle Scars before you use Wild Strike.
4. After this happens, Begin spamming(not as fast as before) Critical Strike and Moebius Strike to keep Crit. Defenses up forever.
5. Watch what skills Shiro uses, as soon as he uses Battle Scars, use Wild Blow or you WILL DIE.
6. The first half of his health can take a long time, be patient and keep at it.
7. After 50% is gone, constantly spam Critical Strike and Moebius Strike, but DON'T FORGET ABOUT BATTLE SCARS!
8. By the time the group finishes the bonus, you should have Shiro around 25% health and dropping fast, and your group can either sit back and watch, or join in to finish it faster.

Yes this works, as long as you don't mess up.
This build also works on Shiro at the end of Factions, but you'll need a few damage dealing heros(not henchman, they get banished) to get past meditation of the reaper.

VIDEO OF ME SOLOING SHIRO AT GATE OF MADNESS!!!
* Note: you do NOT need a monk to heal you, I just wanted to be safe in case I messed up, and I actually did once or twice from talking to teammates :P
* Also, the first half or so of the battle was cut off because of the massive length and size(it was an 8 minute battle) The first half of his hit points go VERY slowly since you can only attack once every 6 seconds really, but once it hits 50% it goes down very quickly.
* The point of the build is NOT to solo Shiro, although it is easily done and fun to show off, it is mainly used to tank him and get his health low while the team gets the bonus with no hassle. No shame in keeping one party member behind if the rest of the team can handle themselves against the shrine guards.



NEW VIDEO OF ME SOLOING SHIRO WITH NO MONK!!!
^woot4me

And here it is in Cantha with the same build:

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Old Feb 27, 2007, 03:26 PM // 15:26   #2
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This seems pretty cool, i'm definitly going to check this out.

But just a suggestion, if your only using Shadow Refuge to run away why not just throw in Feigned Neutrality?
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Old Feb 27, 2007, 04:29 PM // 16:29   #3
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Use Feigned in the PvE version I guess, but for soloing Shiro, use Shadow Refuge. its a much better in battle heal.
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Old Mar 02, 2007, 02:10 AM // 02:10   #4
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*bump* any more comments/concerns here? sry for doublepost
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Old Mar 02, 2007, 01:51 PM // 13:51   #5
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This is only good against melee, its got nothin to defend against hexing,heavy degen, spike. But then again not many builds have almost all counters covered and still kill effectively. Still melee its good, other than that i wouldnt use it. PVE most definetly tho

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Old Mar 02, 2007, 01:58 PM // 13:58   #6
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Once I get my assassin there I will try this.

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Old Mar 02, 2007, 04:28 PM // 16:28   #7
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This is only good against melee, its got nothin to defend against hexing,heavy degen, spike. But then again not many builds have almost all counters covered and still kill effectively. Still melee its good, other than that i wouldnt use it. PVE most definetly tho
Yea, if you try it in PvP of any kind, your dead. Im working on an assassin that can take casters... but theres not that much to work with. The Shadow Refuge/WoP are usually enough to counter most normal PvE mobs as long as your in a decent party with a monk or two.
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Old Mar 02, 2007, 05:32 PM // 17:32   #8
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Yea, if you try it in PvP of any kind, your dead. Im working on an assassin that can take casters... but theres not that much to work with. The Shadow Refuge/WoP are usually enough to counter most normal PvE mobs as long as your in a decent party with a monk or two.
What about AB if you consider that PvP.
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Old Mar 02, 2007, 07:57 PM // 19:57   #9
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What about AB if you consider that PvP.
Haven't tried it in AB yet, might work there, but still probably best in PvE
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Old Mar 02, 2007, 10:12 PM // 22:12   #10
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Btw assassins cant do dmg, they are only for condition stacking, which is why mending is so popular.

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Old Mar 02, 2007, 10:40 PM // 22:40   #11
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Assassin still can't tank, because this build is not about tanking at all...

Try this in DoA, that's true tanking.
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Old Mar 04, 2007, 12:58 AM // 00:58   #12
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Btw assassins cant do dmg, they are only for condition stacking, which is why mending is so popular.
Possibly one of the most retarded comments on this forum if you are being serious.

If you are being sarcastic, can you end it with /endsarcasm or something.

But if you ARE serious...Assassins have the most powerfull melee spike combos in the game. Coupled with BoA it can be extremely fast and efficient.

Assassin don't do damage by autoattacking because dagger 7-17 base damage is puny...but when one of em unleashes a combo it is stagering.

Oh and btw...Mending is not popular. The only people who use it are farmers and l33t Wammo's.
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Old Mar 04, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14   #13
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I watched the video, and you would have died without the monks and all the boosts, though you did get the job done.

However, a riposte warrior can do what you did and to better effect most likely.

But don't get it wrong, you would have died against Shiro if the monks weren't casting spells on you, my friend, and a warrior will still kill that build, but success is success.Congrats.
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Old Mar 04, 2007, 05:57 PM // 17:57   #14
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ive been using somthing like this for farming for ages, mainly in cantha. it works rly well.
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Old Mar 05, 2007, 12:08 AM // 00:08   #15
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Why don't you have any self heals in this build? Seems like this isn't a particularly good build.
So sensitive types who don't like the english language being raped are happy.

Anyways, 'sins don't have much in the way of self-heals anyway, it has Shadow Refuge which is about as good as it gets (poor 'sin). It really doesn't need one though, it relies on not getting hit. And I believe the OP meant to have WoP on the 2nd build...
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Old Mar 05, 2007, 12:12 AM // 00:12   #16
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I watched the video, and you would have died without the monks and all the boosts, though you did get the job done.

However, a riposte warrior can do what you did and to better effect most likely.

But don't get it wrong, you would have died against Shiro if the monks weren't casting spells on you, my friend, and a warrior will still kill that build, but success is success.Congrats.
I'd like to see you wammo through Shiro and his Impossible Odds. You won't even have enough energy to use both Deadly Riposte and Wild Blow without a zealous weapon, and then you have no healing you can use besides Heal Sig (dangerous) and Lion's Comfort (more adrenaline....)
And you expect to be able to charge up Riposte every second... how? Auspicious Parry/Riposte will only work for a few seconds when Shiro enters Impossible Odds stage and strikes you 4/6 times per hit.
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Old Mar 05, 2007, 04:33 PM // 16:33   #17
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The condition spread would blow away a Riposte warrior (tried it, got creamed). This build is very efficent, I must say, and the guild was going nuts when they saw me use it xD.

My main issue with it is surviving without the monk casting HB on me. Too much damage, not enough healing for my tastes. Thx for the build ^^
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Old Mar 14, 2007, 12:52 AM // 00:52   #18
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Why not try build with blinding powder instead of critical defenses?
Blind is 90% chance to miss and it lasts 12 seconds and recharges in 20.
Here is my solo build.
Unsuspecting strike, wild strike, critical strike, Moebius strike, death blossom, blinding powder, shadow refuge and feigned neutrality.
13 dagger, 11 shadow arts, 12 critical strike.
Can spam critical strike, moebius and death blossom with no letup. inflicts large amounts of damage.
Plus you blind all adjacent foes and you have 2 different healing spells.
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Old Mar 14, 2007, 01:02 AM // 01:02   #19
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You mention the need to maintain Way of Perfection as much as possible, and yet it isn't even in your build?



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You mention the need to maintain Way of Perfection as much as possible, and yet it isn't even in your build?



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My build doesnt even mention way of perfection ??
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