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Old Aug 03, 2006, 10:20 AM // 10:20   #1
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Question MO/MES Unable to Acsend

I'm having great difficulty in acsending, I just can't beat that mirror guy. Anyone have any builds that work without any problems!

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Old Aug 03, 2006, 01:08 PM // 13:08   #2
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Mo/Me is actually easy to ascend with. Why? Mesmers.

Here is how you can win with little difficulty:

Spirit of Failure (Inspiration)
Empathy (Domination)
Illusionary Weakness (Illusion)
Physical Resistance (Inspiration)
Rebirth (Protection)
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Signet of Capture
Rez Signet

Domination: Max
Inpiration: Max
Illusion: Leftovers

Before you touch the 3 stones, cast Illusionary Weakness. Wait until you are at full health, then touch the last stone.

Cast SoF, then Empathy then Physical Resistance. Don't attack, just wait. Cast SoF & Empathy when needed. Doppleganger will die quickly.

Don't take any self healing. IW is the only self-healing you need. RoF is a just incase (but you won't need it).

Have fun killing it.
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56   #3
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Illusionary Weakness (Illusion)
Illusion Of Weakness
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05   #4
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I used Zealots Fire, Reversal of Fortune, Scourge Sacrifce, Smite Hex, SoJ, and Soulstone Strike.

Killed him in 20 seconds.
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 08:31 PM // 20:31   #5
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Originally Posted by Pick Me
Mo/Me is actually easy to ascend with. Why? Mesmers.

Here is how you can win with little difficulty:

Spirit of Failure (Inspiration)
Empathy (Domination)
Illusionary Weakness (Illusion)
Physical Resistance (Inspiration)
Rebirth (Protection)
Ressurect
Signet of Capture
Rez Signet

Domination: Max
Inpiration: Max
Illusion: Leftovers

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Throw Backfire in there and watch him die as he casts any of the above spells on you, as you're just sitting there.
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44   #6
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If you can compitently strafe one opponent, try this:

1. Retribution
2. Healing Breeze
3-8. [Free Slot] You don't need anything here.

Doppleganger won't use Healing Breeze on himself unless he's being degened, so basicaly just strafe him and let yourself get hit off and on. By no means will you get the "bonus" with this, but you'll be able to beat him without a problem.
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21   #7
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If you can compitently strafe one opponent, try this:

1. Retribution
2. Healing Breeze
3-8. [Free Slot] You don't need anything here.

Doppleganger won't use Healing Breeze on himself unless he's being degened, so basicaly just strafe him and let yourself get hit off and on. By no means will you get the "bonus" with this, but you'll be able to beat him without a problem.
I would add holy wrath and don't use breeze.
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50   #8
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Thanks guys, i shall try this 2nt when I get home. Anymore info is appreciated also with builds.
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 12:25 AM // 00:25   #9
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I would add holy wrath and don't use breeze.
So you and the Doppleganger die at the same time?
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37   #10
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Life Attunment -30% damage.
12 Dom Empathy
Heal Breeze for healing if you need it.
Distortion if you need it.

Dopple won't use Healing breeze. Just strafe a little and keep Empathy up. Kills self fast.
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 01:24 AM // 01:24   #11
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So you and the Doppleganger die at the same time?
No this is the common way to beat your doppleganger just useing those 3 skills on your bar and it is easy for a Monk to do this about the 3rd from War to Ranger.
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44   #12
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what about the backfire/hexbreaker combo?
before you enter the double arena, cast hexbreaker, when you reach the double, cast backfire right of, then emphaty, then just run around
and take divine boon as healing, just recast =)
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 01:49 AM // 01:49   #13
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You don't need to use any secondaries skills I never did with any of my char.s.I could of put frenzy on to make it that much easier did I no.I am a Monk.
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51   #14
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Monk/Ranger and let him spirit up while you smite him, OR Monk/Necro Sacrifice skills and put Scourge Healing on him.
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23   #15
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I did it once, only equiped with breeze. I killed him/her/it with my staff only
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08   #16
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I thought someone said that the doppleganger now does use healing breeze. I know HB was the healing spell that the doppleganger won't use (unless to counter health degen), but I heard somewhere that in one of the last few patches, the doppleganger will use it.

Anyway, I know a lot of people use Backfire and a bunch of spells that will kill the doppleganger quickly, but I think you must put backfire as your last skill. I think it casts from left to right, if memory serves me correctly.

You can also Distortion as well to keep yourself from being hurt too much.
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 10:16 PM // 22:16   #17
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Pick Me's IW+SoF+Empathy+Physical Resistance works very well.

I didn't even have to move
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Old Aug 05, 2006, 02:56 AM // 02:56   #18
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There is a much much easier way. Take only reversal of fortune and empathy. Put empathy on him, and spam reversal on yourself. Do not attack him at all. That way he will kill himself from empathy and you will stay alive with reversal. Just divide your points between prot and domination.
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Old Aug 06, 2006, 01:10 PM // 13:10   #19
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With my warroir I chose no skills. Just attack and wait.
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Old Aug 07, 2006, 07:30 AM // 07:30   #20
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i was lucky to get a smiting staff in fow

used something like

breeze, orison, smite hex, bane signet, hex that causes -2 health regen (forgot to take it out, woot luck), shielding hands, banish and smite(?)

get in close so he uses melee and just start healing and attacking, cranks up healing and smiting smite hex is the real damage dealer

got bonus with this btw
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