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.defekt · Jun 02, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00

Question: what items do you use?

Maria The Princess · Jun 03, 2006, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by .defekt

Question: what items do you use?

i think its a +15 enerdy stuff/sometimes change to bow

Shantel Span · Jun 03, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Currently a Milius' Staff that my ele had in the back bag of her inventory. Specifically for the +15 energy.

After more testing, I tend to run dry on energy - fast - with the 9 in Marksman and Tiger's Fury. You just run outta energy way too fast. Your pet gets one or two good spikes in, but with the relatively fast recharge of the elite, the spam for high-damage potential is there.

Sir Mad · Jun 03, 2006, 02:41 PM // 14:41

ROFL I should post my solo beastmaster build for the first room of the Deep... I'm currently working on a solo BM build for... Uw. We'll see the results

Stockholm · Jun 04, 2006, 04:44 AM // 04:44

My Beast Master
Dp 490 1 sup vigor + Fortitude Bow +30
Beast Master 15 +(1+2) Mask + Major
Expertise 10 +(1) Minor
Wilderness 5 +(2) Major
Marksman 11 +(2) Major

Enrage Lunge{E}
Feral Lunge
Melandrus Assault
Call of Haste
Symbiotic Bond
Call of Protection
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal

Been messing around with this build for a while and so far energi has not really been a problem.

Rune update made the Att. distrubution a bit easier

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Jun 04, 2006, 05:41 AM // 05:41

I'm not a too experienced BM but one time I had tried it out, trying to solo wtih it.........I came up with a small problem. Again I haven't played around with pets too much but for a solo BM build, how would you get your pet to take all the aggro? I end up taking aggro instead of pet and i die T.T

Red Locust · Jun 06, 2006, 06:00 AM // 06:00

Don't forget that afflicted warriors use frenzy. You're doing half the listed damage.

Ventius Hozza · Jun 06, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56

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Originally Posted by Red Locust

Don't forget that afflicted warriors use frenzy. You're doing half the listed damage.

Was just about to mention...

But anyways, I went with some friends today and i said "screw it, im going bm"... of course they laughed but i took it anyways. If I'm in a group, I hardly ever take a selfheal as I rely on my monks to do that for me in PvE, so i took out troll unguent and i shoved:

Charm
Comfort
Feral lunge
Scavengers Strike
Brutal Strike
Ferocious Strike {E}
Symbiotic Bond
Res sig

All in BM and expertise

Found it worked great and the combo works really well. My Lvl 20 dire white tiger Snuggles did 130dmg avg :O

RandomEngy · Jun 06, 2006, 06:10 PM // 18:10

My biggest success has been a hybrid BM/Marksmanship build:

14 Expertise, 12 BM, rest Marksmanship

Ferocious Strike
Penetrating Attack
Sundering Attack
Bestial Fury
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Capture Signet/Res Signet/Call of Haste
Read the Wind

Get a zealous short bow, use Read the Wind and then just jam your first four skills all at once on the first target. Ferocious Strike will deal good damage and keep your mana up for constantly spamming those 3 second recharge attack skills. You can actually do a Penetrating or Sundering attack 2 out of every 3 attacks, even with Bestial Fury on. The single-target damage is really nice, and it's fun because you get to hit a lot of buttons during combat. I also like it because there's no opportunity for one pet attack to overwrite another. I did try out Disrupting Attack for another spammable to put in slot 7, but all too often I'd hit it before the Ferocious Strike connected, cancelling it. It was just too much trouble.

Evilsod · Jun 06, 2006, 06:55 PM // 18:55

When i was exploring the edges of Grenths Footprint i switched to Beastmaster for the sheer hell of it. Was amusing as hell when during an absolutely massive fight there were 2 henchman left standing, me hid behind a rock (

) and my pet getting blatantly ignored kicking the crap outa everything.

I was using Ferocious Strike since i don't have Factions, but it was dishing out a fair bit of damage. The only part i hate is having to take 2 skills all the frigging time! You have so little choice afterwards, sub-par damage and sub-par protection/healing or masses of 1 and none of the other. The other thing that sucks is using a pet interrupt (i had the one that knocks down the target) and its almost impossible to target. Sometimes it'd do it instantly, other it'd stand there while a Gnasher cast both Siphon and Bone Fiend and never touch it.

I'll have to give that build a go when i get Factions.

Eclair · Jun 06, 2006, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Currently I use

12+1+3 Beastmastery
12+2 Expertise

Predator's Pounce
Disrupting Lunge
Call of Haste
Enraged Lunge
Call of Protection
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Res Sig

Only a level 16 Dire Phoenix right now, but soon its going to be 20!

Shantel Span · Jun 06, 2006, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Locust: The screen was not with Frenzy...I can take screens of me doing 160 damage against Shiro if you wish

I still haven't broken the 200-damage barrier, closest was against a random lv 14 Afflicted in Vizunah with 197 damage.

Interupting with a pet is pretty tricky - you have to get used to the rate at which your pet attacks, and then you can only interupt the rather slow casting ones. Like I said...fairly tricky.

When using Ferocious Strike, you always have plenty of energy, but you're really dealing out mediocre damage. Factions beast elite skills are really a must...especially if you're serious about taking your pet. A good beastmaster's pet is much harder to kill than a good W/Mo, with a base 15 damage reduction from Call of Protection (equal to five Sup Absorbs) with a Mending that can't be shattered (Symbiotic Bond +3 natural regen), with half the damage split to you on top of that. I've been in a situation rather recently where my pet was the only tank - our W/Mo got 60 DP rather quickly - but did just fine as a tank. You can't pull as well, because the pet rushes in sometimes, but I've found that "I'm targeting myself!" sometimes works.

Francis Demeules · Jun 06, 2006, 10:25 PM // 22:25

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Originally Posted by Shantel Span

but I've found that "I'm targeting myself!" sometimes works.

ctrl+shift+space for shout, eh? I never thought it works with your pet thought..... well..... if it works too.

IIIBNIII · Jun 09, 2006, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Very interesting ideas. I just got into pure beast mastery, after lots of experience with B/Ps and thumpers (which in some cases are now using Enraged Lunge)...

I posted a build similar in a contest that could make it one of the premades, or at least make BMs more popular. Any help would be appreciated...

ScorchedTater · Aug 10, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

I've recently gotten into a beastmaster build in PvE and like others have pointed out, found that a pet makes a much better tank than a Wammo. With Symbiotic Bond and Call of Protection, there reallly is no match. Additionally with Troll, all the damage that comes from your pet is pretty much negated. The only thing left now is to have PuGs buy into how valuable a beastmaster can be...

Crushedskulls11 · Aug 10, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

The build i use atm is

Ferocious strike
Predators Pounce
Call of Protection
Predatory Bond
Call of Haste
Comfort
Charm
Rebirth

BM - 12 +1 + 3
Exp - 11 + 2
Marks - 8 + 1 (to meet reqd. of bow)

put this build together when i decided to use eoe at 16 bm in vizhuh square for the masters - during the mish noticed the insane amounts of dps my pet can do and though what the heck and went on a master spree in cantha including naphui quarter which we steamrolled on the first try - lol also did the last bonus i needed in tyria (abadons mouth) and got the protector of tyria and cantha w/ in the same day - shows u how powerful a bm build is if used right

like the ideas here and will probably try em out some time, still need to work on my build and and cap enraged lunge for more dmg - for e mangement ferocious strike is a good skill but a elite to so cant be use w/ enraged but for solo or maybe in groups maybe somthing like essance bond or balthzars spirit could work? not to sure just tossing some ideas around

--Edit-- Forgot to put predators pounce on the list - lol

Amy Awien · Aug 10, 2006, 07:27 PM // 19:27

I'm certain the afflicted in Cantha didn't laugh when they were torn apart by my wolf.

I'd drop WS and take Predatory Bond, but that might be very tricky with Symbiotic Bond, so I'd (drop that and) take Call of Protection. CoP takes away damage => less healing required. Though ... Symbiotic Bond splits damage ... and adds a bit of regen.
Maybe I've been lucky, but I found that healers usually take care of my pet as well.

But, more importantly, I like the additional damage output from my bow (with RtW and Distracting Shot is always nice to bring) which means I'll put some points in Marksmanship, drop Trolls and WS and rely on Predatory Bond.

I'd put expertise on 13, most (spammable) petattacks come at 5E, which means they're only 2 with 13 expertise.

I find Brutal Strike less usefull in combination with Enraged Lunge, it's 10E, and doesn't do the damage of EL. It's extra damage only kicks in when the target is <50%, which usually isn't a long lasting state. I rather take Predators Pounce, same damage (when target >50%) and free pet-healing. Bestial Pounce is fun off course, but if you want to annoy casters there are better ways. Conditions are less usefull with the DPS pressure already available, Bleeding and Poison simply don't get the time to do their job, unless you go solo hunting for big bosses, but you mentioned healers ....

If you're looking to do damage, Bow + Beast > Beast
Pure, raw damage with no frizzles.

But if you do the same as I, you'd end up with my build :S - and variety is the spice of life.

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Originally Posted by Cymboric Treewalker

The major problem still left for a beastmaster build is that there is NO weapon that uses Beast Master, Wilderness Survival or Expertise for a req. It would be nice to have one that uses those.

Elementalists don't need to have points in wand or staff do they?

Nonsense, you can use a bow. Elementalists can not use two weapons at the same time, with a Bow&Beast setup a ranger can. A BM staff would be (hugely) overpowered. You have to make choices and you can't have everything