Jul 27, 2006, 08:25 AM // 08:25
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Black Death Knights
Profession: E/
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how to counter obsidian flesh (ele elite)
like the title says whats the mesmer answer to this skill. as far as i can tell it would render a mesmer useless if facing an ele with this skill. any ideas would be gratefully accepted as i have a 1v1 scrimmage set up with a guildie who loves to use this
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Jul 27, 2006, 08:30 AM // 08:30
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#2
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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Chillblains, Signet of Disenchantment, Well of the Profane, Order of Apostasy, Dark Apostasy, Expunge Enchantments and Disenchantment
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Jul 27, 2006, 08:34 AM // 08:34
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#3
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Black Death Knights
Profession: E/
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so basically ill need to go necro secondary?
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Jul 27, 2006, 08:39 AM // 08:39
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#4
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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or assassin, or ritualist, or mesmer ( for signet of disenchantment )
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Jul 27, 2006, 08:45 AM // 08:45
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#5
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: Cult Unseen
Profession: N/Me
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Yeah the easiest way is to just use Signet of disenchantment since your asking for the mesmer solution of course if theres a cover enchantment you either run from the slowed ele and just leave him alone where he cant do anything until his Ob flesh ends or your in for it.
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Jul 27, 2006, 08:46 AM // 08:46
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#6
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Academy Page
Join Date: Mar 2006
Profession: Me/
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This is a 1 sec spell so as a mesmer you can easily interrupt it.
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Jul 27, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55
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#7
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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Mantra of signet or inscriptions on the signet.
Northrog, it's possible that our Geotank friend has put up Obsidian Flesh before our mesmer friend could cast a spell...
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Jul 27, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06
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#8
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Black Death Knights
Profession: E/
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exactly.. and hes using galigords staff so its going to last 20% longer anyway
not sure on his exact build but im certain he has 16 in earth... how long would it last with the 20% from galigords staff and 16 in earth?
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Jul 27, 2006, 09:10 AM // 09:10
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#9
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Dec 2005
Profession: N/Mo
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Well, the thing about obsidian flesh is this : with Serpent's Quickness, it can be kept up constantly, so it's difficult to counter.
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Jul 27, 2006, 09:11 AM // 09:11
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#10
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Black Death Knights
Profession: E/
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edit: ive also seen him use mesmer 2ndary and mantra of resolve where he feels interrupts may be a problem. so i feel its safe to assume he will be running that against a mesmer.
is it possible to keep obsidian flesh up permanently?
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Jul 27, 2006, 09:14 AM // 09:14
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#11
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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If he's mesmer, he might use arcane echo ( would that work? dunno ). But if he's a ranger, he willl surely use serpent's quickness!
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Jul 27, 2006, 09:15 AM // 09:15
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#12
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toronto
Guild: Hopping
Profession: Mo/A
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Take off armor, grab a -5 energy primary and a -5 energy offhand set (The objective is to have as little energy to loose as possible), use Signet of Disenchant, put your armor back on, load up your weapons and own that Enchanting freak
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Jul 27, 2006, 09:17 AM // 09:17
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#13
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Black Death Knights
Profession: E/
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i suspect he will go mesmer for mantra of resolve. with 16 earth and galogords staff how much downtime will he have between casts of OF for me to punish him? by the sounds of it im goint to have to kite until OF drops then do what i can between casts. lol will make for an interesting fight
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Jul 27, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18
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#14
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Guild: Blood Of Orr [BoO]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Cooper
is it possible to keep obsidian flesh up permanently?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [Apple]
Well, the thing about obsidian flesh is this : with Serpent's Quickness, it can be kept up constantly, so it's difficult to counter.
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Yes it can be kept up permanently.
If it's being kept up permanently the best thing to do is to remove it. The important things to pay attention to in the wording of the spell is that it can't be targeted by any spells. So, either use something like was mentioned before (Well of the Profane, etc) to remove it without targeting it (though Well of the Profane would be impractical-he'd have to die first) or use, as Yanman.be suggested, use Sig of Disenchantment. Not only is it a mesmer skill but it's a signet not a spell. Therefore it should work just fine.
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Jul 27, 2006, 09:27 AM // 09:27
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#15
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Black Death Knights
Profession: E/
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hmm sounds like a plan to me... like you say in this case well of the profane would be useless but signet of disenchant would work nicely... assuming he doesnt run a cover enchantment... i just realised geotanks run kinetic armour as a core of the build dont they? signet of disenchant will just strip that instead as it will always be on top as it is renewed every time you cast a spell im gonna cry!
im gonna lose arent i
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Jul 27, 2006, 09:53 AM // 09:53
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#16
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Poland
Guild: Uber Pro Gamers [leet]
Profession: Me/E
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Taking disenchantment spirit from ritualist secondary could fe funny and suprising solution. In 1 on 1 u r sure that spirit will hit him - then u need to take him down before spirit wears down or be prepared to interrupt his OF with something like blackout or PD (to go through mantra if he's gonna to use it).
Show him that there is no way of beating mesmer 1on1 :P GL
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Jul 27, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15
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#17
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Black Death Knights
Profession: E/
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Pd? ? ?
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Jul 27, 2006, 10:44 AM // 10:44
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#18
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Poland
Guild: Uber Pro Gamers [leet]
Profession: Me/E
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Psychic Distraction - elite interrupt spell that goes through mantra (or any antiinterrupt) and has 2 sec recharge. It blackouts ur other skills for 8 secs, but its one of the best mesmer elites.
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Jul 27, 2006, 12:13 PM // 12:13
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#19
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Denmark
Guild: [HH] [Hax]
Profession: Mo/
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hmm.. You could maybe Go with An IW build? Any kind of Defence boostes, and OF wont help him there, and if he is buffed with OF then he wont be able to kite at all.. after that it would pretty much just stay alive to deliver the dmg, maybe using Ele Resistance if he use Spells that dont ignore armor.. Not sure if it could work, but it seems to look good on the Paper >_>
Also, illusion of weakness would be good i think, as it give some extra Hp..
~Shadow
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Jul 27, 2006, 12:30 PM // 12:30
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#20
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New Zealand
Profession: Me/R
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Just IW his butt... There you go, the answer to all defensive questions
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