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Old Jul 24, 2006, 02:39 AM // 02:39   #1
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Default 3 Man FoW - Faster than a full group

This was created a while back by me (Dragonfire) and a friend Ur Mom.

We offer classes for this farm at this thread http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10004948

For this farm you need A Shirt-less monk, Holy Smiter, and a Kiss Necro

Shirt-less monk Mo/X
Divine 13 (12 + 1)
Prot 14 (12 + 1 +1)

Spirit bond
Prot spirit
Spell Breaker {E}
Blessed sig
Blessed Aura
Essence Bond
Balthazar’s Spirit
Rebirth

For equipment the Tank needs
-Some Cold weapon with a enchanting mod on it and a Soul Stone
-AL 15 shepherds pants and boots with a Prot head
-Minor Prot and Divine with a Sup Vigor (Major is Fine)
Job - Tank

Kiss necro N/Mo
Curse 16 (12+3+1)
Blood 6 (5+1)
Soul Reaping 10 (9+1)
Healing 8

SS {E}
Dwayna's kiss
Reckless haste
Optional
Spinal Shivers/Shivers of Dread
Essence bond
Rebirth
Blood Ritual

Need
- A cold bow
Job ~ Kill the Shadow Beasts and heal the Tank when he/she needs it

Smiter Mo/X
Prot 15 (12 + 3)
Smite 15 (11 + 3 + 1)
Heal 6 (5 + 1)
Divine 5 (4 + 1)

Dwayna's kiss
Optional (SB is good for new tanks)
Rebirth
Blessed Sig
Life Attunement
Holy Wrath
Retribution
Vital blessing

Needs
-nothing really
Job – Kill stuff and STAY BACK


Read over this for UW and the basics:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3031254

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...7/Fowroute.jpg
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You enter FoW and take the red route (the quest is optional)

When you get in put all the enchantments on the Tank. For most of this run the Kiss necro will stay back. The Smiter will stay back all the time.

The tank aggros the left group with Spell breaker on for the Mesmer. They will die before Spell Breaker runs out. For the group on the left (or any group with monks) equip your cold weapon, aggro every one, and attack the Monk. The SS necro will put Shivers on the boss and then SS on beasts as they do not do enough damage to trigger Spirit Bond.

For the Abyssals and shadow rangers both the Kiss and Smiter stay back while the tank aggros and kills.

Next continue on to the place outlined in Yellow. This is the easy part. Because you deal Holy damage the Undead will take extra damage. For this part the Kiss and Smiter stay back again. For the Ether Breakers use Spell breaker to stop strip enchant

You can do the Book quest if you feel like it but when your done with that its done.

On a normal run you should get about 2 shards each

~~~~~ You can run Forge Master with an extra Mesmer to shut down the monks




NOW REMEMBER YOU HEARD IT HERE 1ST NOT ANY WHERE ELSE
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 04:31 AM // 04:31   #2
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I highly doubt this is faster than a full team... I can see it being faster than PuGs.

EDIT: The Skeletal army and Shadow army go down really fast, can't find out which is faster(skeles faster than any group) but once you get around to FM things slow down, but by tower of strenth EoE(before it got nerfed) kicked so much ass, same in spider cave, I use 2 monks and a ranger.

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Old Jul 24, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04   #3
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Another build that's only examined until forge, which is the easy half of Fissure?

I don't see why you couldn't clear forge and beyond if you worked with the builds and tried it.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 09:00 AM // 09:00   #4
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Hmmm... i dont see the point of the necro, and i highly doubt it is faster then a full group. A decent group could easily clear that area faster then any 3 man team.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 10:17 AM // 10:17   #5
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U borrowed most from the 3-man Urgoz farming guide
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 11:32 AM // 11:32   #6
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It has more in common with the 3-man UW team and other 3man fow teams that use a 55 (now a spirit bond monk), if you want to declare references.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39   #7
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Another build that's only examined until forge, which is the easy half of Fissure?

I don't see why you couldn't clear forge and beyond if you worked with the builds and tried it.
this build has be examined past forge. you can run the forge master with an extra mesmer becuse the dual monks are a pain. The forest has natures renewal and due to the fact that thes build is enchantment heavy it screws it up. they also do not do enough dmg to trigger Spirit bond. Your right in the fact that we havnt tested the beach, lake of fire, or tower of strength. We are working on the burning plains but its takeing some time and may not be worth the effort in a normal farming run.

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U borrowed most from the 3-man Urgoz farming guide
This build was derived from the 2 Man UW build useing The Dual Sb and Smiter. I only put it out now becuse I figured that someone would find it sooner or later. And it is hardly like the 55 build.

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Hmmm... i dont see the point of the necro, and i highly doubt it is faster then a full group. A decent group could easily clear that area faster then any 3 man team.
The necro is there to kill the shadow beasts, shut down the monks, and heal the Tank if he/she needs it. It is possible to 2 man it but it takes a long long time.

please try this build before you say it isnt faster than a full group (i based the time on your average PUG group)

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Old Jul 24, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07   #8
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I can't see how the smitter is gonna heal the tank with holy wrath up. even if you strip it, the smitter would hae to blessed sig to get some nrj -> the tank can die 3 times meanwhile lol.
I'll suggest you to take Smite Hex
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40   #9
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I can't see how the smitter is gonna heal the tank with holy wrath up. even if you strip it, the smitter would hae to blessed sig to get some nrj -> the tank can die 3 times meanwhile lol.
I'll suggest you to take Smite Hex
the smiter dosnt really heal and if he does is blessed sig and then kiss really fast
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 09:25 PM // 21:25   #10
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U borrowed most from the 3-man Urgoz farming guide
Just how?
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 11:33 AM // 11:33   #11
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And it is hardly like the 55 build.


Old 3man build : 55, support SB, necro
New build : Dual-SB, support smiter, necro

Identical build frame, only difference is the SB and support smiter instead of the 55 and support spellbreak, like I said.

It's possible to clear all the fissure with three, in any case, so a build only taking part of the zone seems ineffective. I'd prefer filling out the group to 4 if that can finish the whole area, because you're only clearing about half of FoW as it is (less), so 1 more for that much more loot and speed wouldn't hurt. For necro optional, put in defile flesh. Helps versus monks.

Though for the record, a 3man group can clear faster than a PuG. I've tried
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 11:42 AM // 11:42   #12
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I did it with my guild is one day.
Didnt know if they have read this guide. But everthing went great
And yea is as fast or mabe even faster.
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17   #13
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Well considering a full team that know the power of an *INTERRUPTER* be it Ranger or Mesmer can clear groups in seconds, i doubt its faster. All those eles that are needed to nuke the crap out of Shadow Monks where a warrior and a Ranger with Concussion Shot or Mesmer can completely shut it down while the eles nuke something that requires attention. Eles don't need to be nuking monks all the time you know, its only when you get more than 1 you need that.

Out of interest.... no SV?
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 12:43 PM // 12:43   #14
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I really do doubt its faster than a full team....and why do you seem so strict on making sure you heard it here and no where else
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You can clear just as much as your 3 man team is doing.... if not more solo
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48   #16
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I did it with my guild is one day.
Didnt know if they have read this guide. But everthing went great
And yea is as fast or mabe even faster.
Thank you for trying the build. Im glad you like it
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1st - it IS absolutely faster. 2 or 3 times faster.
2nd - it's not new
3rd - u can also replace necro with a 3rd support monk with dwaynas kiss and smiting ( scourge healing, SoJ)

4th - hell of a fun it is.
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 04:34 PM // 16:34   #18
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Kiss necro N/Mo
Curse 16 (12+3+1)
Blood 6 (5+1)
Soul Reaping 10 (9+1)
Healing 8

SS {E}
Dwayna's kiss
Reckless haste
Optional
Spinal Shivers/Shivers of Dread
Essence bond
Rebirth
Blood Ritual

Need
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Job ~ Kill the Shadow Beasts and heal the Tank when he/she needs it
Question:
-on who the Essence Bond is casted ? (SB tank has 1 on himself)
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Question:
-on who the Essence Bond is casted ? (SB tank has 1 on himself)
Im pretty sure that if you cast it on the Tank both of you gain energy.
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Old Jul 25, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46   #20
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Its totally doable and very fast.
Cant keep SB up permanently though with this build as is but not a huge problem. That does however lead to difficulties in the burning forest from skales eventually getting to GB and LT.
Grab some guildies and relax while getn some shards =].
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