Curse

Goldleader · Jul 17, 2006, 02:11 PM // 14:11

Being a rit, many of my groupmates immediately expect me to carry some form of a rez with me. I've tried out Flesh of My Flesh, but I hate losing 1/2 of my health, just to give the rez'd guy like 12% of his energy and roughly 50% health. Especially since much of the time, when I rez someone, I'm probably taking some damage.

Does anyone use the skill Restoration (Binding Ritual. Create a level 1...8 Spirit. When this Spirit dies, all party members in the area are resurrected with 5...41% Health and zero Energy).

I was thinking of taking Restoration with instead of Flesh of My Flesh, and using it with Spirit to Flesh (Spell. Target touched allied Spirit is destroyed. All nearby allies are healed for 30...198). That way I have control of the rez and I can do a major area heal at the same time.

Has anyone used this combo to a great effect? Thoughts?

TGgold · Jul 17, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51

Isn't FomF useually used with Ashes of Tsungrai. You have +HP meaning the other guy gets rezzed at more health, and then you drop the ashes and you're basically at full health. : )
I think it's a good idea you have, but I don't exactly how close *in the area* is off the top of my head. If it's big enough to use well, then maybe it's worth it. If it really means...*in the middle of battle* maybe it's not the best idea.
PS: And most rezzes that only res for 0 energy are generally frowned upon. It's like diabling someone for at least 3.75 seconds (assuming 4 pips of regen), meaning they'll probably just die again.

woeye · Jul 17, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Greetings Goldleader!

I thought about this myself. The problem I see is that the party members must die in the area of the spirit. So it might not work in all circumstances. Some days ago I tested this spirit in PvE when things went horribly wrong (complete wipe). The problem was, however, that our party got resurrectued at the shrine because the resurrection timer finished before the damn ghost died

Another option might be Lively Was Naomei. According to guildwiki.org it even resurrects the caster when he dies.

Xenophon Ualtar · Jul 17, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Flesh of my Flesh is not a bad skill. The loss of half my life has never hurt me badly. I cannot think of one time that I lost my life because I used that skill. I have used it will fighting Shiro and in the Fissure of Woe so it seems pretty effective no matter where you are at.

Pick Me · Jul 17, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Flesh of My Flesh is still the rez for my Rit/N.

I've tried Lively Was Naomei, but it didn't rez anyone. I was standing on top of one dead party member and nothing.

I use Generous Was Tsungai before casting Flesh of My Flesh. It boosts my health and when I drop it, I'm back to full health.

I haven't tried Restoration yet, but if you want a nother alternative of healing, cast life first, then rez everyone with flesh of my flesh (everyone gets less and less health. Then tell everyone to stand near Life Spirit. Cast Spirit to Flesh. I've never tried this either, but it would seem to me that Life Spirit will also give your party additional health when it dies (+x health per second that it existed).

carbajac · Jul 18, 2006, 01:22 AM // 01:22

I like Restoration. I use it on my Ritual Lord rit with Feast of Souls. I bring Flesh of my Flesh only if I'm not bringing Feast of Souls. FomF does what it does and is good for a quick resurrection when your team needs it. You just have to be smart about it because it does split your health. Lively was Naomi doesn't appeal to me because of the energy and recharge. Restoration recharges pretty quick especially with Ritual Lord running.

MercenaryKnight · Jul 18, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08

One thing I was curious was if you felt your party was going to whipe out in a mission. If you put up that spirit and it somehow outlived everyone and it said "return to outpost" if you got ressed by it would you be able to complete the mission? Or would you still lose?

TGgold · Jul 18, 2006, 02:19 PM // 14:19

That's...a very, very good question. O.O

frickaline · Jul 18, 2006, 08:40 PM // 20:40

I use restoration if I carry rupture soul (or if I used feast, I'd carry it then also). Its nice to have a spare spirit that can be used for an extra heal or blind and if it doubles as a res, then its win-win.

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One thing I was curious was if you felt your party was going to whipe out in a mission. If you put up that spirit and it somehow outlived everyone and it said "return to outpost" if you got ressed by it would you be able to complete the mission? Or would you still lose?

...is unfortunately, you lose.

mega_jamie · Aug 17, 2006, 07:20 AM // 07:20

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Originally Posted by woeye

Greetings Goldleader!

I thought about this myself. The problem I see is that the party members must die in the area of the spirit. So it might not work in all circumstances. Some days ago I tested this spirit in PvE when things went horribly wrong (complete wipe). The problem was, however, that our party got resurrectued at the shrine because the resurrection timer finished before the damn ghost died

Another option might be Lively Was Naomei. According to guildwiki.org it even resurrects the caster when he dies.

Naomi does ressurect the caster when he dies, its saved me from a couple of nasty moments. Unfortunatly with a 15e, high recharge time, and medium cast time, its not the easiest to get down. And its only extremely useful when your party dies together, otherwsie your using a touching (practically) rez skill, just like Alesia.

Cirian · Aug 17, 2006, 01:03 PM // 13:03

Like the others have said, FoMF + Tsungrai is a great combo. I'm using Naomi now though and it works a treat - cast it while out of danger, weapon spell yourself, then run in and rez bomb! BOOM! Loads of fun!

Crazyvietguy · Aug 17, 2006, 01:56 PM // 13:56

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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

One thing I was curious was if you felt your party was going to whipe out in a mission. If you put up that spirit and it somehow outlived everyone and it said "return to outpost" if you got ressed by it would you be able to complete the mission? Or would you still lose?

Well actually you would technically Lose but from my experiences (perhaps they have changed it) you get rezzed and you just have that annoying box on your screen. YET you can still play. This happened to my FoW group once, somehow i was rezzed with rebirth and at the second i was my guy died so for about half a second there were no living party members = loss. Yet i was still rezzed and decided to trot around for a bit rezing my team. We kept moving on

Cebe · Aug 18, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39

Personally, I find Lively was Naomei to be the best Ritualist resurrection skill...Flesh of my Flesh is good with my Mesmer, having attribute points in fast casting - I can usually res 2 people before the monk can finish their resurrection chant.

Reasons I like Lively was Naomei as a Ritualist is because if you have two or three warriors in your team and they all die in the same place, you can drop a cremated corpse's ashes on the ground and all 3 will res to continue fighting, that way the monk doesn't have to res them one by one and can just top up their health...works a treat, and a lot of the time can be done mid-fight quite successfully if the monk knows what you're about to do.

Pick Me · Aug 18, 2006, 03:43 PM // 15:43

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Personally, I find Lively was Naomei to be the best Ritualist resurrection skill...Flesh of my Flesh is good with my Mesmer, having attribute points in fast casting - I can usually res 2 people before the monk can finish their resurrection chant.

Reasons I like Lively was Naomei as a Ritualist is because if you have two or three warriors in your team and they all die in the same place, you can drop a cremated corpse's ashes on the ground and all 3 will res to continue fighting, that way the monk doesn't have to res them one by one and can just top up their health...works a treat, and a lot of the time can be done mid-fight quite successfully if the monk knows what you're about to do.

I would agree with you if it ever worked for me.

unmatchedfury · Aug 20, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03

LwN is a okay skill the cast time is the same as FomF but the ability the mass res is quite useful, jsut make sure to cast LwN from a safe place, then run in to rez

Cebe · Aug 21, 2006, 10:07 AM // 10:07

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

I've tried Lively Was Naomei, but it didn't rez anyone. I was standing on top of one dead party member and nothing.

Are you sure? The ashes usually take a couple of seconds from when you drop them until the people are resurrected.

Pick Me · Aug 21, 2006, 06:16 PM // 18:16

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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

Are you sure? The ashes usually take a couple of seconds from when you drop them until the people are resurrected.

I'm pretty sure (everyone in my group has a /Mo with their main profession (save me and the two pure monks). I'll retry it again, and see.