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Arcador · Aug 24, 2006, 08:26 AM // 08:26

Gee people stop this /signed, nonsigned think. It is retarded. We are here to discuss, not making some noob vote-like topics.

So I agree on the problem - Ether Prodigy supass all other ele elites BUT if they nerf it, it will probably be a fatal blow to the class for gvg

. Thus as many suggested, it may require a pretty tricky rework on some stuff. Currently I got no ideas, but as soon as I got insight I will post back :P

btw many energy manage skills are enchantments.

yesitsrob · Aug 24, 2006, 12:51 PM // 12:51

I think Ether Prodigy is a bit overpowered, like you say, it is by far the best energy management skill around, I really don't think this is debatable, yes you can drain it, you can do that to mantra of recall too (and it hurts a lot lot more having that drained), yes they can have tranqulity (which will cause problems when you face OUT, KT and about no one else).

truth is, the only reason why people (and myself included) worry about it getting nerfed, is because the use of ele's in PVP would suddenly become a lot lot less... which means they would need buffing elsewhere (and there's been countless topics on that)...

Why does second wind have a 2 second cast time? sigh.

Epinephrine · Aug 24, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Yes, nerfing EP will nerf eles without other adjustments; that's why I included "and revamp skills" in the title. Adjustments would need to be made; I have trouble believing that nobody would bring eles without EP; wards are common now and can be run on other energy engines and eles have many ways to contribute, but I do agree that eles need work. Not wanting it nerfed because you like it is very different is a different issue from whether it is overpowered and should be nerfed. I like it too, when I'm using it, but it always feels a little obscene to have so much energy.

Vermilion Okeanos · Aug 24, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

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Originally Posted by Shortyafter

Actually it was so you could fit a spike within the duration of a gale.

That too, but prot spirit was the main problem, not gale.

Mysterial · Aug 24, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by Epinephrine

I have trouble believing that nobody would bring eles without EP; wards are common now and can be run on other energy engines and eles have many ways to contribute

Unless whatever you're running just has to be on 13+ attribute, it'll be run on a mesmer primary, as Energy Storage has almost zero value without the overpowered elite energy management that comes with it.

Gigashadow · Aug 24, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59

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Originally Posted by yesitsrob

I think Ether Prodigy is a bit overpowered, like you say, it is by far the best energy management skill around, I really don't think this is debatable, yes you can drain it, you can do that to mantra of recall too (and it hurts a lot lot more having that drained),

It does not hurt to have mantra of recall drained, and it's often nice to get the energy back early (if you can absorb it).

yesitsrob · Aug 24, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by Gigashadow

It does not hurt to have mantra of recall drained, and it's often nice to get the energy back early (if you can absorb it).

if i cast recall, and it instantly gets drained, I'm 40 seconds without energy beyond my 3 (divine boon) pips, it hurts. While I'm sure there are some odd scenarios where having it drained doesn't hurt that much - the vast majority of the time I find myself using MoR (which is normally on a monk) getting it drained is horrible. So horrible in fact that enemy mesmers realise this and make a determined effort to drain recall as soon as it is cast.