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Old Aug 02, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40   #21
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does it make any different if you use Totem or Rajazan ferver ?
It really doesn't. YOu don't NEED an enchanting mod even, it's just useful
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18   #22
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protective spirit
healing breeze
glyph of concentration
sliver armor
windborne speed
balthazar's spirit
blessed aura
mending

If i don't need to run then I sub Blessed signet for Windorne speed.

attributes
air 2
earth 10
healing 12
protection 13
divine 9

i only use windorne to get buy group just b4 ghial. Makes it a easier as 55. Sometimes they get you and sometimes they don't. As a 13 you should get him 90% of the time.
With this build I have solo'd:

Dark Wish You have to drag a group in to get enough to kill him.
Woe Spreader Must keep healing breeze up all the time cuz of his degen.
Scar Eater subsitute Glyph of renewal for Glyph of Concentration cuz his group does not interrupt and it will kill him faster.

This build should work with any boss with a decent size group. The power is sliver armor.

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Old Aug 03, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02   #23
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Sweet! Thx gonna try it now!
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 09:42 AM // 09:42   #24
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It really doesn't. YOu don't NEED an enchanting mod even, it's just useful
I was more thinking about Armor Penetration 20% on Totem. Was looking at info about AP on Guild Wiki...seems this only work with Air magic that has AP description, and malee attck?

(Sound noobish but never really get into details AP)
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08   #25
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I never even thought of that... I'm under the impression that sundering mods only work on your attacks.
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27   #26
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Can this run be done with a Mo/W (or switch to Mo/E to stop interrupts) using SoJ?
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 07:27 PM // 19:27   #27
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Can this run be done with a Mo/W (or switch to Mo/E to stop interrupts) using SoJ?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say "Probably not." If you're going Mo/E, then just pick up Sliver armor, and you're good to go.
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Old Aug 03, 2006, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #28
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Quote from Guild Wiki:

Consider the following situation: a level 20 elementalist with 15 air magic uses Lightning Strike against a warrior wearing Gladiator's Armor (and not wielding a shield). Lightning strike has 25% armor penetration and the warrior has 80 AL versus elemental damage, which results in an effective 60 AL (80 * (1 - 0.25)). Against an effective 80 AL, lightning strike would have dealt 35 damage, but armor penetration will increase the damage to 501. This is roughly a 43% increase.

There are two sources of armor penetration, base armor penetration and bonus armor penetration:

Base armor penetration is a set armor penetration value which is usually listed in game with text such as "this attack has 20% armor penetration." Base armor penetration does not stack, and only the largest value is used for any single attack. Sources include:
the Strength attribute, Penetrating Attack and Penetrating Blow
Hornbow-type bows, Penetrating Attack and Sundering Attack
Many Air Magic spells.

Bonus armor penetration is an additional armor penetration value which is usually listed in game with a preceding plus sign such as "+20% armor penetration." Bonus AP does stack with base AP and other sources of bonus AP. Sources include:
Sundering weapon upgrades
Judge's Insight.


So basically if you are using a spell that has Armor Penetration effect you better off with Totem, imo
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 11:10 AM // 11:10   #29
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Can this run be done with a Mo/W (or switch to Mo/E to stop interrupts) using SoJ?
try my build!
Prot Spirit
Heal Breeze
Silver Armor
Glyph of Concentration
Spellbreaker(E)
Blessed Aura
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending

Attributes:
10 Earth Magic
13 Healing Prayers
13 Protection Prayers
9 Divine Favor

Video: http://files.filefront.com/13moe_ghi.../fileinfo.html
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Old Aug 04, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34   #30
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do you just run past the other groups to get to ghail?

I'm still new to the farming thing overall
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Old Aug 05, 2006, 06:33 AM // 06:33   #31
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skills
protective spirit
healing breeze
glyph of concentration
sliver armor
windborne speed
balthazar's spirit
blessed aura
mending

If i don't need to run then I sub Blessed signet for Windorne speed.

attributes
air 2
earth 10
healing 12
protection 13
divine 9

i only use windorne to get buy group just b4 ghial. Makes it a easier as 55. Sometimes they get you and sometimes they don't. As a 13 you should get him 90% of the time.
With this build I have solo'd:

Dark Wish You have to drag a group in to get enough to kill him.
Woe Spreader Must keep healing breeze up all the time cuz of his degen.
Scar Eater subsitute Glyph of renewal for Glyph of Concentration cuz his group does not interrupt and it will kill him faster.

This build should work with any boss with a decent size group. The power is sliver armor.
This build rocks! I can easily solo him now. I do die now and then but thats normal. Thanks alot Stee
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Old Aug 05, 2006, 06:41 AM // 06:41   #32
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try my build!
Prot Spirit
Heal Breeze
Silver Armor
Glyph of Concentration
Spellbreaker(E)
Blessed Aura
Balthazar's Spirit
Mending

Attributes:
10 Earth Magic
13 Healing Prayers
13 Protection Prayers
9 Divine Favor

Video: http://files.filefront.com/13moe_ghi.../fileinfo.html
Sorry for the double post, but what song did you use in that?
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Old Aug 05, 2006, 01:35 PM // 13:35   #33
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Sorry for the double post, but what song did you use in that?
Orgy - Blue Monday
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Old Aug 05, 2006, 02:41 PM // 14:41   #34
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This build rocks! I can easily solo him now. I do die now and then but thats normal. Thanks alot Stee
Your welcome. I dont think there is a build that will kill a boss any faster. Sliver armor is pretty sweet.
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Old Aug 06, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33   #35
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hmm i can't get it to work, the run is going perfectly but when i reach Ghial and use Sliver Armor I always get killed :/ . I'm using the build from Stee Janz.

I dont know what's going wrong because it goes so fast,it's like they remove my enchantments or something... I do hurt ghial I just never live long enough to see him die....
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Old Aug 07, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09   #36
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thanks for the build. ghial dropped his staff for me on the third run. (and another dropped on the fourth just now

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Old Aug 09, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18   #37
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Which type of armor would you recommend for this?
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Old Aug 09, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23   #38
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I'd pick some up from Shing Jea, it's cheap, and AC doesn't matter. What I use in the video is some random mixture of armors that I had sitting around Make sure you don't get anything with +health, though
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Old Aug 09, 2006, 11:56 AM // 11:56   #39
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hmm i can't get it to work, the run is going perfectly but when i reach Ghial and use Sliver Armor I always get killed :/ . I'm using the build from Stee Janz.

I dont know what's going wrong because it goes so fast,it's like they remove my enchantments or something... I do hurt ghial I just never live long enough to see him die....
Hmm...If your having trouble, Try Ricebox's build. If they are taking off your enchantments, Spell Breaker will stop that.
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Old Aug 10, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12   #40
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Try stopping right before ghials group, then cast protective spirit, then healing breeze, then GoC. Run into Ghial, cast Sliver Armor(Should not be interrupted). Recast GoC, healing breeze, recast GoC, prot spirit, rinse and repeat.

If for some reason GoC is interrupted, it has a pretty short recharge, so try recasting it again instead of casting healing breeze or prot spirit. Works well when you always have GoC on before you cast your spells, hope this helps.

Btw, if your using a 55build and having a hard time, try doing the 13hp setup (die first, then -20 offhand). Makes it so much easier.
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