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Teridor · Dec 14, 2006, 09:15 PM // 21:15

For Great Justice
Tigers Fury
Sever Artery
Gash
Silverwing Slash/Galrath slash
Dragonslash
Healing Sig
Ress sig

please rate

jesh · Dec 14, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

How much in Beast Mastery do you have? Are you using a zealous weapon?
Keep in mind that you can use Flail for no energy cost, and it's a 33% attack speed gain, as opposed to the 25% of Tiger's Fury.
If you use Flail, you can save those attribute points, and switch secondaries if you feel like it.
Otherwise, looks good. I'm glad to see you have a res on there.

If you do decide to take Flail, you might even look into W/P.
W/P gives you access to Enduring Harmony. With it, you can make "For Great Justice!" last a respectable amount of time - 30 out of 45 seconds - instead of 20.

Rating - 9

:EDIT:
In my experience, Healing Signet is not necessary. I know some warriors feel very uncomfortable without it, and it's true that in a bad group, not having Healing Signet can hurt your DP.
If I take Healing Signet, it's to relieve pressure from the monks after a battle, there is no skills necessary to "cover" the -40 armor.
If you did take another skill to "cover", where would you put it? To me this looks like a good offensive build, which is what a warrior *should* be. Covering the -40 would involve losing one of your precious attack skills, most likely, since FGJ is practically non negotiable, as is res. You're moving from a good warrior to a bad one, if you do that, imo. If I was to make a single change, (besides possibly switching to Flail), it would be to take Enraging Charge or Rush - to deal with kiters and/or add adrenaline. I suppose Hamstring would also work, but it's a little harder on the energy.
Of course Sever->Gash can be meaningless at times, but I'm sure he's prolific enough to put Standing Slash and the other Galrath in their place, when he's facing those mobs in excess amounts.

DeanBB · Dec 14, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

What are your attributes?

Is this for PvE? If yes, then keep in mind that there are enemies like undead, golems, etc that do not bleed and when you encounter them the SA + G combo is worthless.

You have nothing to offset the -40 AL from the healing signet.

Jeff Highwind · Dec 14, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Yea i was thinking of using Tiger Stance from the BM line but Flail is much more practical and I can use Storm's Embrace to counteract the speed debuff when the PvE monk enemies run.

And as a poster mentioned before not all monsters take bleeding at all. Be sure to have an alternate attack line like Counterattack -> Galrath Slash or Final Strike. The Riposte line or Dryer's Defense is also nice for evasion while using the infamous Healing Signet.

As for Weaponry I find the 10% Furious mod more useful than For Great Justice. I know it sounds odd but with any IAS you will be getting alot of adrenaline quite quickly, so I substituted that shout for Antidote Signet.

jesh · Dec 14, 2006, 11:57 PM // 23:57

I'd rather take Natural Stide over Storm's Embrace, because of the lower recharge.
I would never take Dryder's Defense.
I would stay away from ripostes, because they depend on something hitting you. You don't get hit all the time, or even close to it as a warrior. Which is why I make no attempt to tank.
Also.. losing FGJ on a Dragon Slash build?? Get off the acid, man. >.<
Antidote Sig is ok, but your heroes should really have that covered.

Jeff Highwind · Dec 15, 2006, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesh

Also.. losing FGJ on a Dragon Slash build?? Get off the acid, man. >.<
Antidote Sig is ok, but your heroes should really have that covered.

I've yet to even cap or unlock Dragon Slash so I am not really focused on covering it.

jesh · Dec 15, 2006, 12:54 AM // 00:54

Then I would totally agree with you, I never take FGJ unless I also have Dragon Slash. If you ever want to go cap it, PM me, I'll have time after finals are over.

Jeff Highwind · Dec 15, 2006, 01:09 AM // 01:09

Sure, if you are willing to run my Elonian Warrior from Kaineng City ALL THE WAY to Boreas Seabed.

Until then I'll focus on making her cap all the elites possible in Elona.

Franco Power · Dec 15, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teridor

For Great Justice
Tigers Fury
Sever Artery
Gash
Silverwing Slash/Galrath slash
Dragonslash
Healing Sig
Ress sig

please rate

Keep FGJ
Replace Tigers Fury with Frenzy
Sever + Gash no, You dont have Final so you're not going to gash+final spike,
Replace sever with Silverwing Slash
Replace Gash with Sun and Moon Slash
Keep Galrath Slash
Dragon Slash
Replace Healing signet Sprint
Rez sig /doh

5/10

Why use tigers fury ?

No final thrust and you have gash ?

No healing signet, monks are there to do their job and heal you.

Thom Bangalter · Dec 15, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49

uh...final thrust+dragon slash sucks. A lot. I personally think the build was fine, other than dropping silverwing for sun+moon since you're under FGJ. I'd also bring a better IAS then Tiger's fury (flail, perhaps? or Ideally, frenzy) and work in enraging charge (drop heal sig, don't play with crap monks).

As Jesh noted, drop sever/gash if your running into gobs of non-bleeding mobs.

You should be a DPS machine, however, you really need to have good monks to make it work at it's full potential. So play with guildies, or setup heroes properly so you don't have to deal with orison spamming carebears.

jesh · Dec 15, 2006, 07:35 AM // 07:35

The point of sever and gash with DS isn't to spike, really, it's to try and be a wannabe triple chopper and lay out as many deep wounds as possible.
BTW. I hate taking Sun and Moon unless it's your only attack skill while under FGJ. Why? Because the damage sucks. I would much rather use Silverwing/Galrath/Dragonslash chained. Any more attacks is a waste.

Carebears.. heehee. You have so many cool words, Thom.

Franco Power · Dec 15, 2006, 12:58 PM // 12:58

No no no, no final thrust + gash thats not what i said. I said he shouldnt bring sever + gash if hes not bring final thrust.

Silverwing
Galgarath
Sun and Moon or Standing
Dragon slash

will give much more DPS

also I forgot to give atributes 13 strenght, 16 swordmanship.

jesh · Dec 15, 2006, 10:25 PM // 22:25

DS enables you to spam Sever+Gash on all enemies. Of course you switch targets. It may not be pretty, but if you do this, it comes out quite a bit ahead of moves like Silverwing/Galrath, I find.
Of course for mobs that don't bleed, you need to switch skills. I feel like I've typed this a million times. x_x

Tingi · Dec 15, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06

Teridor - ignore all of these guys (if u so choose of course)

16 Swordsmanship
11 Tactics
9 Str

Dragon Slash
Sever Artery
Gash - DEEP WOUND = best condition in game
Sun and Moon slash
IAS skill such as flail
Watch Yourself - great PvE skill
Heal Sig or Lions Comfort - I dont understand PvE warriors with no self heal...
Rez - obviously...

Tigers Fury used to be THE PvE IAS skill to use for warriors, but then they nerfed it to 25% attack speed so is not rly good anymore...Flail is pretty good for PvE.