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Old Nov 12, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06   #1
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Default Zealous Benediction Vs. Blessed Light

Zealous Benediction
10 energy, 3/4 cast, 4 sec recharge

Elite Spell. Heal target ally for 30...150 Health. If target was below 50% Health, you gain 10 Energy. (Attrib: Protection Prayers)

Blessed Light
10 energy, 3/4 cast, 5 sec recharge

Elite Spell. Heal target ally for 10...94 Health and remove one Condition and one Hex. (Attrib: Divine Favor)


What do you guys think? I think blessed light would be better for the fact that its remove one condition and remove one hex, but zealous looks like it has energy management if the person is below 50% health....
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 02:10 AM // 02:10   #2
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If you are in a condition or hex heavy area, Blight is the most efficient by far, but otherwise it's a waste of energy. Zealous Benediction is alright in the right hands, but is best as an emergency heal. That's just my 2 cents tho.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23   #3
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ud be tempted to let there health dip below 50% sooo much hehe

go well with aura of the lich? or whatever the necro sacrifice thingy is
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32   #4
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If theres not alot of conditions/hexes, ZB would be much better. The fact that its a free heal if target has less then 50% health makes it even better.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 06:35 AM // 06:35   #5
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prot 10+3+1
divine 11+1
heal 7+1
shadow 4
zb, gift, sig of devotion, shield of absorption, dismiss condition, prot spirit, dark escape, return

zomg.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23   #6
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prot 10+3+1
divine 11+1
heal 7+1
shadow 4
zb, gift, sig of devotion, shield of absorption, dismiss condition, prot spirit, dark escape, return

zomg.
<insert any sort of nasty hex thats being cast on that poor escaper here>

zomg. im not sure, i think id throw out shield of absorp for holy veil or something. >.>
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05   #7
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If theres not alot of conditions/hexes, ZB would be much better. The fact that its a free heal if target has less then 50% health makes it even better.
its not exactly a free heal. you still need the 10 energy to cast it. sure. you'll get that back, but can't cast without it
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 10:16 AM // 10:16   #8
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last time i used zealous it first applied divine favor and then it calculated if the target was under 50% so basicly your target has to be under 50%-amount of health healed by divine favor, that kinda made me think blight is better
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 10:26 AM // 10:26   #9
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Zealous is the new woh for spike heals, I mean it heals for 10 less than woh does and you get to use it for free, when below 50% health...perfect in HA.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57   #10
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just tried it in RA, got me 18 consec, most flawless

Zealous Benediction
Gift of Health
Reversal of Fortune
Dismiss Condition
Spirit Bond
Holy Veil
Dark Escape
Return

Divine Favor: 5 + 1 + 1
Healing Prayers: 9 + 1
Protection Prayers: 12 + 1
Shadow Arts: 8

Reversal because you dont run into energy problems often (weapon switch ftw?) and Signet isnt a nice self heal, Rof is exactly what you need, especially in times ZB is recharging or Diversioned or something else. Holy Veil is absolute must; Shield of Absorp might be nice for other situations, but against Hexes you want at least a bit of self defense. i would have died in most of those matches without it.

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ast time i used zealous it first applied divine favor and then it calculated if the target was under 50% so basicly your target has to be under 50%-amount of health healed by divine favor, that kinda made me think blight is better
yeah, and Divine Favor bonus is THAT huge anyways..

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its not exactly a free heal. you still need the 10 energy to cast it. sure. you'll get that back, but can't cast without it
you also need to cast it :P Arkantos obviously meant that, duh ^^

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Zealous is the new woh for spike heals, I mean it heals for 10 less than woh does and you get to use it for free, when below 50% health...perfect in HA.
sorry? it doesnt heal for less, it heals for more, lol. considering you'd run the same amount of attributes in prot & heal. also, compared to Woh, you can use it on yourself.

<3 Zealous Benediction, did when i first saw the skill, did in previous, did when it first came out and love it even more now

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Old Nov 12, 2006, 01:24 PM // 13:24   #11
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They are 2 very different skills. They are not compareable in my opinion.

BL is still one of my favorite skills, but I've also fallen in love with ZB, you just have to know how to use it.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33   #12
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It's always a matter of weighing the benefits against the drawbacks. BL heals for a bunch and removes a hex and a condition. ZB heals for a bunch and gives you its energy cost back if target is under 50%. But then are you maxing out your elite if you take BL and use it on a target that doesn't have a hex or a condition, or if you are using ZB on a target that has more than 50% health? And then there is the fact that ZB encourages you to let someone get under 50% so that you can the 10 nrg. In the end, it's always up to each person to make a judgement between + and - and decide which best fits his or her playstyle.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 02:47 PM // 14:47   #13
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I'd say comparing Zealous Bendiction and Blessed Light is kinda silly. Comparing a Zealous Benidiction build to a Word of Healing build seems alot more logical.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #14
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Zealous Benediction looked so good, but if you're letting them dip below 50% you're probably doing something wrong.

If you're in an 8 man enviornment, heal party and your other monk are going to bump them back up quite a bit.

It scales exactly like WoH, so it's like getting WoH in a better line. It's certainly playable though, just not something I'd want a monk running in GVG.
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Old Nov 12, 2006, 06:10 PM // 18:10   #15
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Well, Monks ARE running it in GvG. In fact BL, RC, ZB, and w/e the name of that 5 energy HP was are probably the most common Mo elites atm. BL- of course- still being the most popular. Kind of silly IMPO this influx of pressure builds. A lot of this thanks to Anthem of Flame and Searing Flames. RC and w/e that party-wide heal was called are currently in the metagame only because of pressure builds. Soon as pressure falls out of favor, these 2 skills will be burried under piles of dust again. Wondering if ZB will still be in the picture.
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Old Nov 14, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05   #16
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It's better then WoH, but WoH hasn't been all that popular in GvG anymore for a while as well. So even though it's better then WoH, that doesn't mean it will be played in GvG. I can see it work, but I don't see it recplacing BL.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 01:25 PM // 13:25   #17
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Blessed Light is much better for GVG than zealous benediction.

I dont think you will see a blessed light guy w/o Gift of Health or a build w/o Heal Party. Most blessed lighters also have room for a very good signet of devotion.

The extra possible heal from zealous is just not worth the Hex removal possible. There are some nasty hexes that can mess you up if not removed fast.

Even if I was running a 3 monk build I wouldnt choose that particular elite, nor woh either.

I think at the moment the Blessed Light is the best "all round" monk for 8v8 and split situations.

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Old Nov 15, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01   #18
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I would say that ZB is like Shield or Regen it is there if you need it it does sound nice and I to like BL now.I still prefer my low cost energy skills but can lice with few med. ones.
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Old Nov 15, 2006, 11:21 PM // 23:21   #19
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I like ZB a lot for RA, but BLight seems to be better overall. Perhaps you can run 1 ZB 1 BLight and an Expel Mesmer for GvG.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 11:08 AM // 11:08   #20
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imo its simply like this; Blight is dominating GvG by far, and ZB is owning Arenas.

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I like ZB a lot for RA, but BLight seems to be better overall. Perhaps you can run 1 ZB 1 BLight and an Expel Mesmer for GvG.
it doesnt really work together with other monks, thats how i noticed anyways. ZB is for solo monking when you can make sure nobody is going to heal you target when it drops below 50% health before you, and youll waste energy a second after. over time, its really going to hurt the ZBs energy. sure you can run Expel if you use ZB (i do too in arenas at some point; its really nice, perfect combination :P), but 2 Blights is still more effective.
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