Curse

arcanemacabre · Dec 06, 2006, 07:24 AM // 07:24

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Originally Posted by Siva arwen

Why they don't just make a PvE mission for to play our favorite Profession and our favorite own build without capping-group like Aspenwood?

So.... something like challenge missions? Or do you have something else in mind?

Siva arwen · Dec 06, 2006, 07:52 AM // 07:52

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

So.... something like challenge missions? Or do you have something else in mind?

it should be something that similar to Aspenwood that we dont need henchmen, waiting and capping-group, by just go there and enter the mission with everyone else and enjoy ur favorite profession and ur own build. the map should be able to play more than 8 players. Is it sound like everyone want to play it?

Riotgear · Dec 06, 2006, 11:30 AM // 11:30

Best thing they could do to reduce the emphasis on farming would be to get a REAL trading system going. An auction house to ditch commodities and non-perfect mods would go a long way in helping reduce the amount of waste that just gets sold to the merchants because there's no visible market for it.

Right now, the reason farming is kinda required is because all the incidental crap you get doing missions and such is just too cumbersome to sell to anything other than the merchants/traders unless it's REALLY good.

ayame ftw · Dec 06, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39

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Originally Posted by Throttle

Of all MMORPGs I've played, GW is the one that requires the least farming/grinding to reach maximum goals. Ever tried to get the highest PvP rank in WoW?

Yes, thats easyer than playing tombs and game fame for sure

gobla · Dec 06, 2006, 11:45 AM // 11:45

I Think the main point the OP is making that Anet forces you to roll one of a select number of classes to enjoy end-game PvE.

Classes like Mesmers and Assasins are not accepted into farming groups. Thus these classes will never be able to fully play the game.

Designing build for them is useless, nobody uses them. Farming large amounts of money for cool armor and weapons is near Impossible since nobody wants to farm with them.

In Factions these classes could do stuff like Aspenwood. In Nightfall there are no options for these classes. And since the elite mission is basically farming you are forced to farm for end-game Nightfall. Mesmers and Assasins have no role in this.

And I must say I really agree with this.

Venus was her name · Dec 06, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

they dont force you to farm, nobody says you need to get expensive stuff

you could get 1.5k armour and use collector weapons and be just as good at GW as somebody with a 15^50 req 8 fellblade and fow armour. You'd probally be better as you've actually had time to play the game not farm shards and ecto all day.

today ive been on GW 2 hours and earnt 20k just from monster drops while doing quests (ok a got a black dye + sapphire). thats not much i know but its enough to get by with.

not saying i dont farm becuase i do just not lately as there isn't a build efficient enough.

Siva arwen · Dec 06, 2006, 05:59 PM // 17:59

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Originally Posted by gobla

I Think the main point the OP is making that Anet forces you to roll one of a select number of classes to enjoy end-game PvE.

Classes like Mesmers and Assasins are not accepted into farming groups. Thus these classes will never be able to fully play the game.

Designing build for them is useless, nobody uses them. Farming large amounts of money for cool armor and weapons is near Impossible since nobody wants to farm with them.

In Factions these classes could do stuff like Aspenwood. In Nightfall there are no options for these classes. And since the elite mission is basically farming you are forced to farm for end-game Nightfall. Mesmers and Assasins have no role in this.

And I must say I really agree with this.

Finally, some one got my point. I think Anet should adds something like these to PvE for these class to be able enjoy in PvE.

Siva arwen · Dec 06, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by Venus was her name

they dont force you to farm, nobody says you need to get expensive stuff

you could get 1.5k armour and use collector weapons and be just as good at GW as somebody with a 15^50 req 8 fellblade and fow armour. You'd probally be better as you've actually had time to play the game not farm shards and ecto all day.

today ive been on GW 2 hours and earnt 20k just from monster drops while doing quests (ok a got a black dye + sapphire). thats not much i know but its enough to get by with.

not saying i dont farm becuase i do just not lately as there isn't a build efficient enough.

I understand what r u saying, but please read all the comments, and i dont come here to say i need gold for my fow armor or w/e, but i come here to say what can i do after beat the game in PvE beside capping-group for farming or solo-farming?

powerk21 · Dec 07, 2006, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Ab Ftw !!

Celeborn · Dec 07, 2006, 01:02 PM // 13:02

You could...play a different game?

novawhiz · Dec 07, 2006, 01:06 PM // 13:06

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Originally Posted by ShaneOfMach

Yo, dude. It's the other way around. Anet doesn't WANT you to farm. So don't farm.

Exactly!!!!

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY NERF ALL GOOD FARMING BUILDS!!!!!?!?!???!?!

Siva arwen · Dec 07, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

I'm sry, i dont know what r u guy thinking.
But i DON'T say Anet need to nerf Farming or REMOVE Farming!!!!! and I do not blame Farming is suck at all.
What i want to say is Anet should ADDs more options for us to play PvE.

FlyingWeagle · Dec 07, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

What do you do when you finish Guild Wars? What would you do if you finished, say, Half Life? Wait for the next one or play through again. Or ( yes I know this borders on blasphemy) Find another game.

Btw your english isn't overly bad, although I wasnt sure what you meant by 'capping group'

FlyingWeagle · Dec 07, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Mesmers can't farm? try Shiro'ken culling down at Harvest (;

rebirthofdragon · Dec 07, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

ANet came to my house and said that if I did not farm they would kill my dog! What am I supposed to do? Now I have no choice but to farm.

The strangest part of it is that I don't have a dog.

l)l2UNl( · Dec 08, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09

they never force people to do anything

i dont farm i just play the game (farming is boring, i must agree)and i have no prob with money. you can play this game quite a few times becuase each time you should have a different team as well as different weaknesses and strengths. and since this is MMO it really should not get boring very fast. the whole point of MMO is for you to play with others, and this is what makes it fun. if this was a single player game i would not even consider getting it...

you dont HAVE TO farm to get gold, just do mission, elite mission, ect.
i would replay the 3 games or get a guild and do some GvG but its up to u

PS: im not sure what OP meant or what teh main point was (really confusing)

Ell the Bell · Dec 08, 2006, 02:33 AM // 02:33

u know y ppl are posting different thigns to what u expect?cos we are having a tough time tryin to understand u. ok fine let me get this straight...

you want a place where u can do PVE besides the elite mission in NF (just like aspenwood in Factions), right?

aspenwood is NOT pve...its PVP..close to pve cos its a free for all but its still a PVP map

and no gettin a title doesnt mean farming...dude go explore the continent..redo the missions to get the protectors title...by doin so u kill 3 birds wif one stone (u aim for a title, u chat wif ppl, and u help ppl who have not done the missions)

if u want a place where u can just 'enter mission' with your favourite character go random arenas. its practically the same as aspenwood..just smaller and u need to work as a team...(not implyin that aspenwood does not require teamwork...but most ppl dun care bout teammates there)

and gobla, mesmers not accepted into farming groups?!?u gotta be kidding me...or maybe cos they do it solo...

Siva arwen · Dec 08, 2006, 05:18 AM // 05:18

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Originally Posted by Ell the Bell

u know y ppl are posting different thigns to what u expect?cos we are having a tough time tryin to understand u. ok fine let me get this straight...

you want a place where u can do PVE besides the elite mission in NF (just like aspenwood in Factions), right?

aspenwood is NOT pve...its PVP..close to pve cos its a free for all but its still a PVP map

and no gettin a title doesnt mean farming...dude go explore the continent..redo the missions to get the protectors title...by doin so u kill 3 birds wif one stone (u aim for a title, u chat wif ppl, and u help ppl who have not done the missions)

if u want a place where u can just 'enter mission' with your favourite character go random arenas. its practically the same as aspenwood..just smaller and u need to work as a team...(not implyin that aspenwood does not require teamwork...but most ppl dun care bout teammates there)

and gobla, mesmers not accepted into farming groups?!?u gotta be kidding me...or maybe cos they do it solo...

You said aspenwood is PvP but don't forget aspenwood is only belong to Faction Account only(correct me if i'm not right) and NF doesn't have one yet that similar to that one. So, does that mean the end of PVE in NF is just about farming with those capping group? and what is the point that I make my cute PvE Dervish and unlocked all the skills for? I belief Anet knew that a lot of ppl complain about PvE in GW is suck and boring. and Why Anet didn't take their time or action to improve PvE but instead of release a big Farming Area DoA for us? and What does it mean by release DoA?

strcpy · Dec 08, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

The fact that Aspenwood is only in factions has no relevance to if it is PvE or PvP. It is a PvP area - that is human players fighting other human players. It is *not* end game PvE.

The end game PvE in Nightfall is the same as the other games: Underworld, Fissure of Woe, and an Elite Area (Sorrow's Furnance, The Deep/Urgoz's warden, and Domain of Anguish). In Factions and Nightfall you also have challenge missions.

If you are looking for Aspenwood type things there are plenty of other PvP areas that form random teams that any and all professions can enter - they are called Random Arena's. You also have hero arena's that you can always get a group up (your heroes). Go to the Battle Isles and have at it.

As for having trouble with some professions in some areas getting groups - welcome to Online gaming. If you can figure out how to solve that I suggest you go make a game as you will corner the market. No matter what you do some class combination will complete some places better than others. Even if they do not many players will perceive it as so and go from there. Mesmers, Ritualist, Assasins, and any class is in high demand in some areas. That's why we have more than a single character slot.

End game in MMORPG's is what you make of them. That is true in any one I have played.

As DoA being a farming area: that remains to be seen. It's release may mean that Anet was trying to listen to people who wanted a difficult end game PvE experience where balanced teams are needed. Then again, a 2 or 3 man team may come out and that be the end of balanced PvE teams there and back to farming only groups.

So far it seems you want the perfect game that satisfies several mutually exclusive needs depending on your current whim. You will be a very unhappy gamer if you really and truly need that.