Dec 06, 2006, 11:56 AM // 11:56
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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Solo or Teamo?
i apologize if this was ever discusted here
i always come with this doubt when seeing a new build...
"Did this guy came up with this soloing the game or teaming the game?"
of course the low level areas one can and should always solo but the areas with levels above 18 should they be henched/teamed areas or soloed areas?
i know there are places easier than others... but still... there are ALOT of areas in the three games...
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Dec 06, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Moe's Pub
Guild: Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]
Profession: R/
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Teaming is (almost) always much faster than soloing, so if your goal is to beat the game, why bother? Now if it's for farming, yeah, soloing (or at least joining groups as small as possible) is better as you get more drops.
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Dec 06, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32
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#3
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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Are human teams easier to play with than hench+hero teams?
i am at Gate of Madness and i've gotten here with no lightbringer rank and with hench+ hero team...is it bad?
is it true that when farming human teams have more probabilities of getting rare drops than a human with full hench team?
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Dec 06, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Moe's Pub
Guild: Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]
Profession: R/
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No it's false.
Are heroes better than humans? Good heroes are better than bad players, yes. Should you play with heroes? If you have good builds for them, know your job, and genrally, feel comfortable with them, it's perfectly possible to hench the 3 campaigns. If you don't, try to find a group with real players.
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Dec 06, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49
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#5
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2006
Profession: R/
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thanks for all this enlightment
people can still comment or a moderator can close this thread...
since an elite guru eliminated my doubts... i think its obvious this is finished
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Dec 06, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31
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#6
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Desert Nomad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by anshin
Are human teams easier to play with than hench+hero teams?
i am at Gate of Madness and i've gotten here with no lightbringer rank and with hench+ hero team...is it bad?
is it true that when farming human teams have more probabilities of getting rare drops than a human with full hench team?
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False? This is TRUE. Henches also get drops, but they just don't show it. It'd be pretty stupid for somethin like "Moss Scarab drops an Ancient Bow reserved for Alesia [Healer Henchman]." Henches obviously can't pick up stuff, so those messages won't show up.
Because henches "do get drops", it's not a good idea to farm with them cause if the item you were farming did drop for one of them, you obviously wouldn't see it drop.
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Dec 06, 2006, 07:39 PM // 19:39
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#7
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Seattle
Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]
Profession: R/
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Methinks you're misunderstanding...
*You* have the same chance of getting a drop in 8 human player party or in a party with 7 henchies/heroes... therefore its false and your statemant is incorrect. Just because you can't see henchy drops has no bearing whatsoever on number of drops assigned to you. As for your statement about how it's not a good idea to farm with henchies because you can't see what they get... well... I'm speechless as a result of the profound levels of anti-logic encased therein.
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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn
False? This is TRUE. Henches also get drops, but they just don't show it. It'd be pretty stupid for somethin like "Moss Scarab drops an Ancient Bow reserved for Alesia [Healer Henchman]." Henches obviously can't pick up stuff, so those messages won't show up.
Because henches "do get drops", it's not a good idea to farm with them cause if the item you were farming did drop for one of them, you obviously wouldn't see it drop.
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Dec 06, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21
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#8
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ganking, USA
Guild: Retired
Profession: R/
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The Phrasing is bad here.
Henchies get drops, so if you farm with henchies they CAN end up getting hte item you are after, so a person has a 1 in 8 chance of getting it.
So farming with Henchies is a bad idea since if the drop goes to a hench its gone. Your probabillity of getting a drop stays the same no matter if you are on a full henchie team or full human team.
Farming solo or with one or two peeps increases your chances of getting drops. i.e.:
Kill 50 monsters and 3 bosses with full hench or full people you should bassically come away with approx 7 drops though that number could be less if cash drops are included.
Kill 50 monsters and 3 bosses with a You and a pal, you should get approx. 26 drops, again this number will change when cash drops are figured in.
Not to mention the entire randomabillity of any and all drops and the farming code.
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Dec 06, 2006, 10:31 PM // 22:31
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#9
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Seattle
Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]
Profession: R/
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The math does not support the argument that farming with henchies is bad though. If a henchy got 'your drop' it makes no difference than if another human farmer getting it, you still dont.
Farming with henches vs farming with humans makes NO difference in drops you get, party size does regardless of human or henchy makeup, number of foes does since each has a chance to drop something.
It's always nice to farm with friends though because when you dont get something at least you get to feel good that a buddy got something good.
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Originally Posted by Orange Milk
The Phrasing is bad here.
Henchies get drops, so if you farm with henchies they CAN end up getting hte item you are after, so a person has a 1 in 8 chance of getting it.
So farming with Henchies is a bad idea since if the drop goes to a hench its gone. Your probabillity of getting a drop stays the same no matter if you are on a full henchie team or full human team.
Farming solo or with one or two peeps increases your chances of getting drops. i.e.:
Kill 50 monsters and 3 bosses with full hench or full people you should bassically come away with approx 7 drops though that number could be less if cash drops are included.
Kill 50 monsters and 3 bosses with a You and a pal, you should get approx. 26 drops, again this number will change when cash drops are figured in.
Not to mention the entire randomabillity of any and all drops and the farming code.
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Dec 08, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29
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#10
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Academy Page
Join Date: Dec 2006
Profession: R/
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The good thing with henchies is that when you farm you control the team.
This is a smart thing to do if you are farming a spesiffc greendropping boss:
Kill everything eccept the boss. Flagg your henchies far-far away so their names become grey when you are near the boss. kill the boss yourself.
All stuff the boss drops are yours to take.
Ofc you need a build so you can take him out tho..
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Dec 08, 2006, 03:26 PM // 15:26
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#11
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Jungle Guide
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lennymon
The math does not support the argument that farming with henchies is bad though. If a henchy got 'your drop' it makes no difference than if another human farmer getting it, you still dont.
Farming with henches vs farming with humans makes NO difference in drops you get, party size does regardless of human or henchy makeup, number of foes does since each has a chance to drop something.
It's always nice to farm with friends though because when you dont get something at least you get to feel good that a buddy got something good.
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True, but a human player could give/trade you the drop you wanted. And no, drops you get are total drops/#of party members(ideally, not sure if it actually applies, as I dont really farm).
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