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Valkyries · Jun 21, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37

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Originally Posted by Railz

thank gods someone with a sense of the pvp metagame, as i said before bunny thumper doesnt need a pet , people who run pets dont use the high expertise most of the time thats why they use ferocious strike to get energy back, as well as a bit of dmg, but in all honesty a thumper with out a pet is 10 times better

Ummm.. Ill have you know I play PVP a ton.. this includes HA and GVG.

I think you are either mis informed or do not play serious PVP at all.... frankly a thumper WITHOUT a pet is no where near 10 times better than one with.

Maybe you don't understand the concept of a thumper build so Ill explain it. You use Ferous strike to gain energy and adrienline to fuel your hammer attacks so you never run out of energy. Even with high expertise, eventually in a long fight you will still run out. Thats the issue.

Im not saying the build you posted was bad because it certainly is not... its a great build to run. However, thumper, it is not.

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No way. Enraged Lunge is PIMP. 100+ damage every 5 seconds? I think so.

Yes enraged is an awesome skill... the problem is the same thing though. You can't get your energy and adrienline refueled so quickly. So whilie this is a very viable option, its not as consistant IMO. I do agree though, I occassionally run this too for fun and as a change of pace and indeed it is "pimp" as you so put it

Frantic-Sheep · Jun 21, 2006, 08:52 AM // 08:52

Personally I think 'thumpers' are made because of the 'thumping of the hammer' with low energy cost due expertise

not the thumping of the pet..

at least thats my view. Call it what you want, on the end its all a R/W with a hammer.

Some version I once played with and liked:

*cant remember the exact attributes*
Something like
10+3+1 expertise
12 hammer
6+1 beast mastery
6+1 Wilderniss

- Tigers Fury
- Devestating Hammer
- Crushing Blow
- Heavy Blow
- Irresistible Blow
- Apply Poison
- Troll Urgent
- Res Sig

(It was funny poisoning everyone around and unleash the combo from time to time)

Valkyries · Jun 21, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03

thumping is using the hammer, its the "bunny" part that has to do with the pet

draconis228 · Jun 23, 2006, 06:14 AM // 06:14

id like to say that Frantic-Sheep has a fun one that works, i just tweaked it to my liking some

Fay Vert · Jun 23, 2006, 10:34 AM // 10:34

The thumper is the hammer, the bunny is the bunny hop animation when you thump. The pet is along for E management and damage add.

afaik, you can't cap a bunny as a pet (though I'd dearly love to)

Sir Mad · Jun 23, 2006, 10:57 AM // 10:57

[quote=Reikai]run... as... one? you need a pet for it to take effect you know...{/quote]

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Originally Posted by Hidden in the Mist

No need for pet.

True, that's the difference withHeal as One. However, why Runas One over Dodge since the main point of having ranger as a primary is expertise and dodge = 33% faster vs 25% for Run as One AND you avoid arrows.

And again, for all those thinking having a pet is the key: in none of the build I've seen more than 12 points used in BM. No, again the main point is expertise. Otherwise, just make a warrior, you'll have a better armor... You can have a pet, but heck that's not the key of the build.

pork soldier · Jun 23, 2006, 11:02 AM // 11:02

apply poison thumper is ftw, just watch high end gvg and you'll see why ^^

Sha Noran · Jun 23, 2006, 12:36 PM // 12:36

Yes, Dodge/Zojun's Haste are also viable options for your sprint slot. No pet needed for Run As One, as stated.

Ferocious is shit for Adrenaline... 1 Ferocious=2-3 Adrenal, as far as I can tell... not worth your Elite slot when now you can run something like Shove and not really need Adrenal at all. Expertise is the key.

ump · Jun 23, 2006, 01:40 PM // 13:40

Ferocious Strike is nice because you gain more energy then you spend (I prefer 9 expertise, 12 hammer, 14 beast mastery with Ferocious Strike so you spend 3 to gain 10 and net 7 energy), your pet does extra damage (+27), and you gain adrenaline (1) every 8 seconds. You need adrenaline for Hammer Bash. More adrenaline means you can knockdown more often. More energy means more spamming (especially Irresistible Blow).

Solvi · Jun 24, 2006, 06:44 AM // 06:44

Unless someone can tell me who originated the term "Bunny Thumper" and what they were thinking when they thought of it I would say that it is open to interpretation. My take on it would be the Thumper part would mean the hammer and the word "Bunny" is to differentiate between a War Thumper and a Ranger Thumper....eh...my 2 cents.

Munrock · Jun 24, 2006, 07:08 AM // 07:08

It's called a bunny thumper for two reasons:

1) the comical look of the Ranger's running animation while holding a hammer

2) the ability to constantly use hammer attacks, esp. knockdowns, due to energy conservation, and to do so at 33% attack speed. Like bunny thumping at fairgrounds.

more details here: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bunny_Thumper

draconis228 · Jun 24, 2006, 02:27 PM // 14:27

question:would devestating hammer work more efficient than backbreaker due to the 3 less adrenaline cost and the fact that devestating hammer causes weakness which + heavy blow gives another KD toppled with a crushing blow?

A Leprechaun · Oct 23, 2006, 03:04 PM // 15:04

^ no hammer bash > heavy blow
if you use devestating hammer and your tagets dies for 6 more strikes you have a wasted skill

not so newb · Oct 23, 2006, 10:37 PM // 22:37

You guys know bunny thumpers can also be warriors also right ?

A Leprechaun · Oct 24, 2006, 11:34 AM // 11:34

^wrong thats just a hammer warrior

Im Perfect U Aint · Dec 12, 2006, 07:48 AM // 07:48

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Originally Posted by Valkyries

thumping is using the hammer, its the "bunny" part that has to do with the pet

wrong....bunny has to do with how u run while carrying a hammer thumper is the sound a hammer makes go read it on wiki

Thom Bangalter · Dec 12, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54

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appoc · Dec 12, 2006, 09:02 AM // 09:02

haha, I've got a bit bored with my ranger and havnt manged to find a fun and working build for it. And when browsing the forums I've just scrolled past "Bunny thumper" and thought just RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO that (how fun could it be), now I decided to check and wow, it seems rally fun, Ill have to try one later today when Im back home...
Ill just need to find a decent hammer too xD

LightningHell · Dec 12, 2006, 11:45 AM // 11:45

RaO thumpers now, no Ferocious Strike any more.

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