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ultima desturcto · Dec 22, 2006, 07:40 AM // 07:40

I know builds have been made, post nerf, for UW soloing.
I myself am looking to get into the UW more, to start collecting ectos and such, but I would like to know which character is seems easiest for, or which may be recommended and the also which proffession is the quickest. For example i have tried putting my ele, into UW, 12k wasted, but am looking for other characters too to try. Please reply

Bloodied Blade · Dec 22, 2006, 11:56 AM // 11:56

I'll be honest with you right now. My ranger is likely the fastest thing I have ever soloed a smite run with. Your other options for speed/efficiency are the monk and the ritualist. Most other classes do not have the AoE dps output to do this run quickly. Yes, the elementalist has insanely powerful AoE dps. No, they can't sustain it in a mob with 3+ things that interrupt. Since the ritualist build is on the first page atm, I'm going to give you the build I use for the famine solo (there is a guide on the forums about it, and I'm planning on writing another one for those who are really interested...it's time we got more solo rangers in uw).

16 Wilderness
9 Expertise
Rest in Illusion Magic and Inspiration Magic. Note that SV and AV should be 14-16 seconds (to keep the overlap when fighting Grasps).

Famine {e}
Sympathetic Visage
Ancestor's Visage
Physical Resistance
Troll Unguent
Dodge
Zojun's Haste
Illusion of Weakness

You can basically follow the VwK rit guide for how to use it with a few caveats- You cannot aggro coldfires unless you seriously have a deathwish, you cannot aggro aataxes (the vwk build can't do this atm either, it's the one bonus the 55s have), and you need to put up Famine before aggroing grasps / anything (make sure it's far enough back that it's not going to get attacked before you).

One tip I'm gonna throw out for today- You can drop famine right in the middle of fighting a mob. If they kill it, keep SV up, let the guy that comes back (if it's a grasp) waste his interrupt, and drop famine as soon as you know you have enough time in SV/AV that you shouldn't get interrupted. Keep troll unguent up constantly, and I would really reccomend either a +energy staff or a +hp staff (I run with a +energy staff and a sup vigor).

Good luck ultima.

TeeJay · Dec 22, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49

My opinion about best proffesion for UW is:

1. Ritualist (I don't have one, but looking at the things I've read. It's the best way to get ectos while soloing)

2. Monk (I actually read a new guide today, wich I immediatly tried and it worked awesome. Not as fast as Rit I would say but you can kill Aaxtes and grasps and smites.)

3. Mesmer (Mesmer usually uses a few monk skills for tanking and his own mesmer skills for damage. I think mesmer still is better than ranger but I have to admit it is the first time I see that build that bloodie blade made.)

If you don't have a ritualist, though luck, you will need to clear almost all of cantha to get the required skill(s). Otherwise I would say, stick to monk.

greetz TeeJay

Bloodied Blade · Dec 22, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeeJay

My opinion about best proffesion for UW is:

1. Ritualist (I don't have one, but looking at the things I've read. It's the best way to get ectos while soloing)

2. Monk (I actually read a new guide today, wich I immediatly tried and it worked awesome. Not as fast as Rit I would say but you can kill Aaxtes and grasps and smites.)

3. Mesmer (Mesmer usually uses a few monk skills for tanking and his own mesmer skills for damage. I think mesmer still is better than ranger but I have to admit it is the first time I see that build that bloodie blade made.)

If you don't have a ritualist, though luck, you will need to clear almost all of cantha to get the required skill(s). Otherwise I would say, stick to monk.

greetz TeeJay

Just to clarify this, I did not create the R/Me famine build. That title belongs to another poster.

bored-.-bored · Dec 22, 2006, 06:01 PM // 18:01

thes a warior build on wittes solo tyia tour:P

Bloodied Blade · Dec 22, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40

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Originally Posted by ultima desturcto

*snip* but I would like to know which character is seems easiest for, or which may be recommended and the also which proffession is the quickest. *snip*

Warrior is neither fast nor easy to farm UW with.

Milan-V · Dec 22, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Solo smite trapper > famine visage
It's safer, easier...not slow at all (slightly slower than famine).

ultima desturcto · Dec 22, 2006, 07:54 PM // 19:54

hmm ty all might make a rt, or should i go for a ranger? (i dont have either but willing to spend time to get into UW

Bloodied Blade · Dec 22, 2006, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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Originally Posted by Milan-V

Solo smite trapper > famine visage
It's safer, easier...not slow at all (slightly slower than famine).

In my experience the famine solo is faster b/c you have to take time to set traps, whereas you can immediately aggro stuff with the famine build (there's also more spirits to set up). The famine build is also a solo smite runner btw.

The only downside is that it takes a bit of practice to avoid coldfires (solo trappers can slowly kill them or run around them).

ultima desturcto · Dec 22, 2006, 10:50 PM // 22:50

I understand Rangers ah good for UW, especially in groups, but if, say i have a monk lvl 18 with the tatto armor, would it be wiser to go on with him, and perhaps follow the works of Benjef and attempt to 55, rather than restart with a Ranger or Ritualist (I may make a Ranger later in the future anyways). Another question for creating a ranger, I have all 3 games but which game is a ranger easiest to be started in...most of my new characters are through factions...?

drupal · Dec 22, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

I'm using an echotrapper build for my ranger and I can solo all the underworld. But it's trapping so it takes a bit patience

(like all soloing things)

ultima desturcto · Dec 23, 2006, 08:51 AM // 08:51

In people's opinions, would you say that trapping is Easiest to get through the UW, Drupal mentioned soloing the whole of the UW, and I am aware that other builds/classes can not get past specific foes in the UW...would this make ranging easiest?

no damage tank · Dec 23, 2006, 09:06 AM // 09:06

i prefer mesmer most for UW solo. Its faster than warrior, yet not as fast as famine ranger, but it IS very easy!! Theres also a warrior and monk build (not racthoh's theyre both 55hp and they need energy armour. the monk needs a divine favor scalp and the warrior needs tactics. they both need a -50hp grim cesta from cities of ascalon, and a 20% enchanting axe or sword, and the warrior needs a max dmg customised smiting wand, the same except divine favor req for the monk)

Skills:
Protective Spirit
Healing Breeze
Illusionary Weaponary
Power Drain
Sympathetic Visage
Mending
Balthazars Spirit
Essence Bond

Attributes:
Healing Prayers: 9
Protection Prayers: 9
Illusion Magic: 12+3+1
Inspiration Magic: rest +3
Fast Casting: rest (after Inspiration Magic) +3

Equipment:
Energy mesmer armour with 5 superior runes.
A -50 grim cesta from the Cities of Ascalon quest.
Any 20% enchanting axe or sword.

Usage:
Use Protective Spirit when going to fight any monsters.
Use Healing Breeze after starting to bleed.
Use Power Drain when a Dying Nightmare spawns, then use Illusionary Weaponary to kill it.
Use Illusionary Weaponary whenever it recharges (the 20% will allow you to keep it up all the time).
Use Sympathetic Visage when fighting Grasping Darkness's and Smite Crawlers, if you want use it on Aatxes too (if you do only use healing breeze when either: fighting 3 or more Aatxes or when sympathetic visage isnt up.

Thats all, dont give me any credit, i merely wrote the build out again. I cant remember the full name of the origonal creator, the first name is Avarre though.

The Monk:
Protective Spirit
Healing Breeze
Spell Breaker
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Mending
Essence Bond
Baltazars Spirit

Attributes:
healing:6+3
protection: 5+3
divine favor: rest (after smiting)+3+1
smiting:rest+3
tactcs:10-12 (you choose whatever maximum number you can get)

The Warrior:
rotective Spirit
Healing Breeze
Spell Breaker
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Bonetti's Defence
Mending
Baltazars Spirit

Attributes:
healing:9
protection: 8
smiting:rest
tactcs:8-12+3+1 (you choose whatever maximum number you can get)

LightningHell · Dec 23, 2006, 09:24 AM // 09:24

Avarre is the name he goes by on GWG; he's now a Riverside moderator, I believe.

ultima desturcto · Dec 23, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

I have a question For mesmers, IW - Illusionary Weaponry - Does it do 35 damage to the enemy, with it on, no matter which foe is attacked...For Instance cast on a Bladed Aatxe, and use a scythe to attk a large group, of aggro, would it then work like sliver armor, only depending on your attacks. Another way of putting it is - Does Illusionary Weaponry only do damge when u Attack the foe u have cast it on?

xiaotsu · Dec 23, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultima desturcto

I have a question For mesmers, IW - Illusionary Weaponry - Does it do 35 damage to the enemy, with it on, no matter which foe is attacked...For Instance cast on a Bladed Aatxe, and use a scythe to attk a large group, of aggro, would it then work like sliver armor, only depending on your attacks. Another way of putting it is - Does Illusionary Weaponry only do damge when u Attack the foe u have cast it on?

IW is an enchant, not a hex

Bloodied Blade · Dec 24, 2006, 06:28 AM // 06:28

@no damage tank-

not sure where you got that W/Mo build, but gotta say "no" there. W/Rt smite runner would be sooo much faster...and you'd still have to fight aataxes 1 at a time if you wanted to kill with any real speed. You'd be better off even with just the W/N soloer for speed. -- and on the monk, why run ripostes when you can run SoJ?

RadeonDJ9600 · Dec 24, 2006, 07:53 AM // 07:53

Just tried out the Famine Solo and it was a success. The only trouble I had was when I lagged and accidently aggroed a large group of Colds but I was to recover myself and finish the run. I also ultimately ended up switching to my +5e Sword/+45/-2 Stance shield as I seem to take a little too much dmg for my troll to counter, having IoW trigger each group was a little too close for my tastes.

Thanks for bringing the build to my attention Bloodied Blade

Milan-V · Dec 24, 2006, 09:15 AM // 09:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadeonDJ9600

Just tried out the Famine Solo and it was a success. The only trouble I had was when I lagged and accidently aggroed a large group of Colds but I was to recover myself and finish the run. I also ultimately ended up switching to my +5e Sword/+45/-2 Stance shield as I seem to take a little too much dmg for my troll to counter, having IoW trigger each group was a little too close for my tastes.

Thanks for bringing the build to my attention Bloodied Blade

I have the same problem most of the times, without IoW i'm nothing. And that's why I prefer the trapper, it takes 60secs per smite mob (not with the lure). So not bad at all....and it's easy as hell.

ultima desturcto · Dec 24, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Ok having read your responses to my query it does seem that rangers have the best choices for UW, I say choices, because i know Rts can do UW smites easily, but Vengeful farming is the sole build on a rt solo, whereas rangers can touch/interrupt/trap/Barrage/Famine and run, if I am right in bringing that statement forward. This would seem that rangers are more flexible and more worth the time, but that is my opinion