Curse

ACreator · Dec 20, 2006, 11:55 AM // 11:55

i invite u all to use this build for example in AB

critical eye + unsuspecting + fox fangs + horns of the ox + moebius + syphon speed + dash + feigtened neutrality

dagger mastery 12 + 3 + 1
shadow arts 8 + 1
deadly arts 2 + 1
critical strikes 10 +2

and the last rune use

+ energy
or
the one that reduces blind and other thing

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use critical eye > syphon speed > dash > ususpecting > fox fangs > horns > moebius

only use moebius if target is bellow 50% HP!!! if he heals too much run, otherwise use 1 or 2 normal atacks and repeat

horns > moebius
horns > moebius
horns > moebius

until he is dead... belive 90% he dies at 1st try

then use dash or feignted neutrality as needed.

have a try

Spura · Dec 20, 2006, 02:04 PM // 14:04

I like it in pvp simply because 120 HP drop will prompt heal from monk and I can do this every 4 sec. So basically I run around and stab people with full HP so monk reacts with heal. Goes through monk's energy quick.

Yanman.be · Dec 20, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

Spura, that's actually a pretty good idea. Now combine with some other monk diversion skills...*ponders*

Kazuki · Dec 20, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

Unsuspecting Strike is an ok skill, but like some other people in this thread said, it doesn't give fast access to your dual skills and it has high energy to activate. I've been testing a build quite some time now and it seems quite worthy of guildwiki.

IGN: Prototype Xiii [[[Tester]]]

Dagger Mastery : 12*
Critical Strike : 12*
Deadly Arts : 3

*if you'd like use runes if you want to make the SS last longer as well as DP

Siphon Speed / Expose Defenses
Unsuspecting Strike
Temple Strike
Twisting Fangs / Critical Strike
Black Spider Strike / Malicious Strike
Burst of Agression
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-Variations-
Dark Prison for surprise attack
Resurrection Signet for resurrecting fallen allies
Return to get yourself out of bad situations
Feigned neutrality to kite and heal
Wary Stance to kite or tank while gaining energy
Viper's Defense for kiting

-Equipment-
Zealous Daggers
High energy armor (if using DP, i suggest about 40+)

-Usage-
Activate Siphon Speed for the chain and for kiting foes
[If you have DP activate that to surprise your foe so they can't react fast enough]
Activate US > TS > TF > BSS with BoA activated before US.
Repeat normal attacks to disrupt casters and melee enemies
[If you have Wary Stance, activate this]

For the other variations, i believe you can figure out what they're useful for.

-Counters-
Blind, evade, block, empathy, diversion (on TS), faintheartedness, etc.

have fun. it interrupts enemy skills (spellcasters) so fast with normal attacking b/c of dazed and the degen kills them eventually if they're not healed by a monk b/c they can't heal themselves

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Destro Maniak · Dec 20, 2006, 05:14 PM // 17:14

I am using this chain and I tested in ısle of name less on 100 Al suit:
Critical 15
Dagger 11
Unsuspending Stirike
Palm Stirike
Horns of Ox
Falling Spider
Twisting Fang
Do you know how fast this kills. Only 6 sec. On 60 Al I usually cant use Twisting Fang.

Yanman.be · Dec 20, 2006, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Destro Maniak, misusing Palm Strike like that makes me puke. Also, critical strikes higher than DM makes me puke. Now I just lost my appetite and I got a fever. thanks.

ACreator · Dec 20, 2006, 08:46 PM // 20:46

test my build.. and plz ive some feedback

Destro Maniak · Dec 21, 2006, 05:10 PM // 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Destro Maniak, misusing Palm Strike like that makes me puke. Also, critical strikes higher than DM makes me puke. Now I just lost my appetite and I got a fever. thanks.

Actually this was a normal build at wiki tested (favored) the wastn unsuspending. I just added it to deal 110-130 dmg at first hit and hill in 7 sec. In pvp I put some point in deadly and get spihon speed.

Yanman.be · Dec 21, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

I think you mean wiki. Link please?

Destro Maniak · Dec 21, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38

well here is the link
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:A/any_Lotus_Palm I didnt mean there was unsuspecting strike. I put it myself

Yanman.be · Dec 22, 2006, 06:52 AM // 06:52

Attributes are still messed up, and Palm Strike isn't used the way it should.

Palm Strike and black lotus strike and black spider strike exsist so we can skip the useless lead attacks and hit directly with off/dual attack.

The way you use it now, means you probably could dump your elite, sub in a cheaper offhand, and take a more powerful dual attack or utility slot.

Windwalker64 · Dec 23, 2006, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Its great when u use only once at the start........
I do it first,then a off hand elite atk that dosent need a lead,then twisting,get away with hearth of shadow,then use my second combo (jaged strike,wild strike,death blossom).If my victim is still alive elite off hand and twisting.......
IF its still alive i hit the monitor with my chair............

AuraofMana · Dec 23, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Twisting Fang is a great skill, but it isn't THE skill.
I run Assassin builds without Twisting Fang due to its high recharge and I end up killing faster than most sins do.
And yes, I use Unsuspecting Strike as a Lead Attack, it deals about 30% of my damage.

ACreator · Dec 23, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

aura of mana, can u test my build and coment??

its in 1st post of second page....

AuraofMana · Dec 24, 2006, 02:36 AM // 02:36

Quote:

unsuspecting strike (yes I use it!!) + fox fangs + horns of ox + moebius + horns of ox + moebius + horns of ox + moebius....

It looks like a good build for chain KD.
I use:
Unsuspecting Strike, Wild Strike, Horns of Ox, Falling Spider, Blades of Steel.
Usually kills casters in one combo. If not, quickly follow with Unsuspecting Strike, Wild Strike, and Blades of Steel.
I use AOD.
Dash is a must have.
Optional slot for heal.
16 Dagger, 13 Crit, 3 levels of something left over. I usually do Shadow Arts with Shadow Refuge.

l Artemis Entreri l · Dec 24, 2006, 01:02 PM // 13:02

mana....blades is a waste...u have 2 skills that recharge in 4 sec and wild strike(and unsusp) will be done recharging by end of u combo so blades of steel wont do full damage.take twisting fangs or death blossom

AuraofMana · Dec 24, 2006, 04:44 PM // 16:44

Umm.. 4 seconds is a long time dude.. I usually use it before they are recharged and I get the max damage.
I have used this build numerous times in PvP (AB and HA) and it usually kills a target in one hit unless a monk intervenes (or some heavy tanking build, self heal gets interrupted usually due to KD).
One thing I don't liek about Twisting Fangs is its long recharge of whomping 15 seconds. That's why I never liked it... I can't jump on another target right afterwards.
Although right now I am trying to pierce together a Shadow Prison/Twisting Fangs build (I am aware it isn't new, but I like to make my own builds). The long recharge is still leaving Twisting Fangs in the low spot for me =(
How do you guys use it? What do you follow it up with (other than Moebius). What do you do if the target is almost dead but self healing (so the bleeding + deep wound, and possibly the poison if you used some thing of that sort won't take the target out)?
And there's going to be some attribute problems... I'll have to utilize all 4 Assassin attributes and I like my CS to be 13 and Dagger to be reasonably high (I use 16 =P). And as always, self-heal is needed (Shadow Refuge still gets my vote for the crappiest heal in the game, even with 16 in Shadow Arts).

l Artemis Entreri l · Dec 24, 2006, 09:17 PM // 21:17

1st off....15 sec isnt much. u can afford to wait 15 sec to start combo and if u have deadly arts points,folo [/skill]Twisting Fangs[skill] w/ impale for an insane spike

Diddy bow · Dec 24, 2006, 11:31 PM // 23:31

unsupecting rocks it matches others on damage even below 90 has the (joint) quickest recharge and can do HUGE damage over 90, so followd by wold then fangs or w/e it can be great-my fav lead ^^

AuraofMana · Dec 25, 2006, 03:31 AM // 03:31

NVM TWISTING FANGS owns.... umm it's better than Blades of Steel in my build due to Deep Wound and Bleeding =)