Curse

Kamer · Oct 03, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06

While I fail at naming things, I don't fail at making decent builds, cutting to the chase, im going to share a wicked awesome assassin build I came up with.

Weapons: Zealous daggers, +30 hp, 15^50% preferred.
Armor: Whatever you choose.
Skills:
Mark of Instability (No Attribute.)
Black Lotus Strike (Critical Strikes.)
Twisting Fangs (Critical Strikes.)
Falling Spider (Dagger Mastery.)
Horns of the Ox (Dagger Mastery.)
Moebius Strike [ELITE] (Dagger Mastery.)
Tigers Fury (Beast Mastery.)
Res Signet (No Attribute.)

Stats:
12 Dagger Mastery
12 Critical Strikes
10 Beast Mastery

Strategy: Heh, pick a target, lone target preferred, run up to him, and cast mark of instability, then hit him with black lotus strike, as soon as you get enough energy to use Tigers Fury after hitting with black lotus strike, activate it, then use the skills listed in order, if moebius strike recharges you, then you can use the skills in reverse, so you can then hit with horns, falling, then twisting.

Pros: 3 knocksdowns, maybe more, lots of degen, and some nice spike damage.

Cons: Like most other melee builds, stances that block or evade, or the condition blind destory this build.

Special Thanks: The original creator of the black lotus strike build, for providing me with an awesome assassin build to use for some time.

Notes: Awesome build, I know, send any questions or comments ingame to Kamer Eon, X Eon X, Remak Eon, Derek the Glad, Valhalla Hellrazer, or Valhalla Saint, those are all my characters, and I could be on any one of them at any time.

DieInBasra · Oct 03, 2006, 12:15 AM // 00:15

Quote:

Special Thanks: The original creator of the black lotus strike build, for providing me with an awesome assassin build to use for some time.

Comeing to the wrong forum, with a build horrible in any form of pvp outside RA, and that type of attitude? Wow.

Thom Bangalter · Oct 03, 2006, 12:33 AM // 00:33

I would imagine the assassin section in the campfire would be pretty good.

Kamer · Oct 03, 2006, 12:33 AM // 00:33

Yeah, that had said PvE though, sorry about that.

Ry Dia · Oct 03, 2006, 12:53 AM // 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamer

Stats:
12 Dagger Mastery
12 Critical Strikes
10 Beast Mastery

All I'm going to comment on is that. 10 BM gives no increase over 9, and if you're going to have crit strikes at 12..wtf? That's like putting ranger expertise at 13 and then using a bunch of 10E skills.

Guillaume De Sonoma · Oct 03, 2006, 03:00 AM // 03:00

You fail, sorry. In pvp outside of RA Sins are ment for mobility and NPC ganking in genral with few exceptions.

Yanman.be · Oct 03, 2006, 06:12 AM // 06:12

This build? www.putfile.com/yanman ? Just swap out Tiger's fury, it'll make the KD chain much cleaner.

SAPhoenix · Oct 03, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40

The damage is there but how do you deal with kiters?

Yanman.be · Oct 03, 2006, 11:07 AM // 11:07

That's why I'd take shock, over TF...

Shuuda · Oct 03, 2006, 12:04 PM // 12:04

Replace Horns of the Ox with blades of steel.

Yanman.be · Oct 03, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

RIGHT. Shuuda. RIGHT. Why would you take an interrupt and "snare" over something that doesn't do anything but more damage, and less recharge?

HoTo allows you to recharge everything with MS, then go hoto and fs again. Better than Blades of Steel AFAIK.

chicks boy · Oct 03, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kamer

While I fail at naming things, I don't fail at making decent builds, cutting to the chase, im going to share a wicked awesome assassin build I came up with.

Weapons: Zealous daggers, +30 hp, 15^50% preferred.
Armor: Whatever you choose.
Skills:
Mark of Instability (No Attribute.)
Black Lotus Strike (Critical Strikes.)
Twisting Fangs (Critical Strikes.)
Falling Spider (Dagger Mastery.)
Horns of the Ox (Dagger Mastery.)
Moebius Strike [ELITE] (Dagger Mastery.)
Tigers Fury (Beast Mastery.)
Res Signet (No Attribute.)

Stats:
12 Dagger Mastery
12 Critical Strikes
10 Beast Mastery

Strategy: Heh, pick a target, lone target preferred, run up to him, and cast mark of instability, then hit him with black lotus strike, as soon as you get enough energy to use Tigers Fury after hitting with black lotus strike, activate it, then use the skills listed in order, if moebius strike recharges you, then you can use the skills in reverse, so you can then hit with horns, falling, then twisting.

Pros: 3 knocksdowns, maybe more, lots of degen, and some nice spike damage.

Cons: Like most other melee builds, stances that block or evade, or the condition blind destory this build.

Special Thanks: The original creator of the black lotus strike build, for providing me with an awesome assassin build to use for some time.

Notes: Awesome build, I know, send any questions or comments ingame to Kamer Eon, X Eon X, Remak Eon, Derek the Glad, Valhalla Hellrazer, or Valhalla Saint, those are all my characters, and I could be on any one of them at any time.

OMG U USED THE EXACT BUILD AS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but im A/N i use this:

-Mark of Insability

-Black Lotus Strike

-Twisting fangs

-Falling Spider

-Horns of the ox

-Mobielus Strike

-PLAGUE TOUCH OR REZ SIG

-SHADOW REFUGE OR ANY SELF HEALING

lol u copy cat!! but i didnt like this build cuz i can easily kill a warrior under in 10 seconds and i was expecting that warrior should be able to withstand assassins lol

Mr Jazzy · Oct 04, 2006, 12:25 AM // 00:25

well you didn't make this up. i saw this in FA like 3 months ago. it's a good build tho, but i think yours needs a lil tweaking.

get rid of TF, sins don't need IAS. your chain will keep them on the floor, so why do you need to attack faster?

make your crit strikes at 13, and raise your dags a little. replace horns of ox (you get kd already) with death blossom, since death blossom does more damage and will do the KD too.

add shadow refuge, since sins are really weak and soak up dmg quickly.

Scavenger Rage · Oct 04, 2006, 02:47 AM // 02:47

1. This is now new...the ox + falling + twisting is the first build EVER made to an assasin...

2. This build is not a good pvp one...you have NOTHING to protect yourself, also you have NO shadowstep or running or whathever. Do you realy think enemys in HA / GVG will let your sin WALK to their monks and such whith nothing to cover yourself or to get past tanks and such?!

3. I realy dont think assasins get all that much benefit from atack modifiers (frenzy, flurry, tigers fury, etc) simply because they already atack fast enough AND have chance to double hit! Plus, every dual atack already hit twice!!!

4. 10 points on beast mastery just because of ONE skill?! You are a sin, you won't be abble to maitain an atack and stay alive (specialy whithout any kind of self heal). Keeping tigers up all the time is useless...

5. IF you realy plaining to keep tigers fury up, you should conssider swaping for a vamp weapon (will cover part of the heal and will do a LOT more dmg) and place critical eye maybe to increase your energy gain...

6. the very point of beeing an assasin is SPIKE of dmg, not preassure, SPECIALY when you have no self - heal...so if you have NOTHING to get fast to the target to spike, NOTHING to get away if things get ugly and NOTHING to sustain dmg if you are the target, I realy dont see how you could maintain your "chain combo" whith moebius...

Latter.

Yanman.be · Oct 04, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29

Scavenger, the point of the IAS is to spike, so saying this build is pressure, is...meh.

It's good if you go TA, or AB with a monk by your side.
But shock > TF ==> snare/kd/interrupt.

Scavenger Rage · Oct 04, 2006, 02:32 PM // 14:32

Sorry to say buy whith 12 dagger you are not spiking anything...

The only thing that would keep this build usable was continous dmg from the never ending combo, and that in my oppinion is more preassure like then spike...ALSO, all these KDs are more like of a thumper thing, and even thought they aren't the biggest dmg dealers arround, those already can deliver much more dmg then this, whith much more KDs and even trow in some defenssive measures...so I realy don't see the point in here other then spreading conditions wich is preassure as well.

Also the very concept of spike is "kill the enemy as fast as possible". And I fail to see why you would use so huge combo to do that...

Latter.

Yanman.be · Oct 04, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35

The good thing about a large combo like that is, even if he gets a heal, a simple rof, or endure pain, stuff like that, it wouldn't matter, you just outdamage that too. But attributes are a bit iffy, I agree. I run 15 dm 14 cs personally, rest air magic. ( don't need the IAS for the kd chains imo )