Curse

keanpf · Oct 15, 2006, 09:59 AM // 09:59

1. Deaths Charge
2. Jagged Strike
3. Fox Fangs
4. Repeating Strike
5. Death Blossom
6. Shadows Refuge
7. Whirlwind Defenses, or Critical Defenses, or Res Sig
8. Return

Use deaths charge to get to what u want fast, and hit it with 2 and 3 fast. then, if its only one enemy, continue to use 4 over and over, or if it is a group hit 5 or 4 then 5 and repeat. 6 is in case you get stuck to where you cant return or are countering a poison or immolation etc. The stances at 7 arent completely necessary but are nice if you are stuck and cant return. Your should use number 8 when u run low on health, pepper them with arrows until u heal, then charge in again, etc.

Dagger Mastery 14 (11+3)
Marksmanship 9
Shadow Arts (6+3)
Critical Strikes (9+3+1)

Weapon:
Kenshi's Butterfly Daggers

Armor:
Keen Mask
Valkyries Guise, Leggings, Gloves, and Shoes

The keen mask adds more to critical striike which helps u gain more energy to reduce the penalty of kenshi's -5 and -1 degen. The Valkyries armor also reduces the penaly u take on superior runes.

This build is designed to kill things quickly without killing yourself in the process. It is not meant to be a series of complicated combos, just something simple.

Yanman.be · Oct 15, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05

Whirlwind defenses? I think you mean whirling defense, wich is an expertise skill, thus...hilarious.

AND WTF?? 9 marksmanship???

I see you obviously live up to your rolemodel of a whammo!

keanpf · Oct 15, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

ok. first of all the bow i use is drago's flatbow, thus the 9 req. that bow happens to be a +15% while in a stance, and whirling defense is a stance and if i am shooting a bow than it is better than critical defenses because it lasts longer and has a higher block rate

Yanman.be · Oct 15, 2006, 11:24 AM // 11:24

Uninstall.

Celab · Oct 15, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29

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Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Uninstall.

Unistall agreed

Please leave the area before we nuke you.

Legendary Battousai · Oct 15, 2006, 11:31 AM // 11:31

What Yanman means to say is Guild Wars is beyond your educational level. Go to school for a few more years and, if Guild Wars is still alive, you can attempt to try playing it again. Until then, please refrain from posting in public Guild Wars forums about topics that you have utterly no knowledge of in composing in efficiency or competence. If you honestly think this to be aspersion, then I will gladly 1v1 one with my assassin which uses a proven build that is accepted by the PvP community as a build that works.

l Artemis Entreri l · Oct 15, 2006, 12:55 PM // 12:55

wow yes to all they say but yanman wtf....do u just post to post?i mean seriously u just post a few words.You are a troller. And i think he was asking for constructive criticism.

dont bug me about grammar

Yanman.be · Oct 15, 2006, 01:00 PM // 13:00

I have nothing else to say. I'm sorry. I was speechless.

Desires · Oct 15, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by l Artemis Entreri l

wow yes to all they say but yanman wtf....do u just post to post?i mean seriously u just post a few words.You are a troller. And i think he was asking for constructive criticism.

dont bug me about grammar

Since you don't like one word posts

Dear keanpf

Suicide is your only option.

Hyunsai · Oct 15, 2006, 10:02 PM // 22:02

Suicide is a Superior Sin, you heretic....

Tingi · Oct 15, 2006, 10:50 PM // 22:50

lol at off-topic'ness. Anywaaaaay, keanpf, don't use expertise skills on your assassin.

Pick Me · Oct 16, 2006, 01:36 PM // 13:36

I must ask, if you say you have a Drago's Bow, then why is not listed in your weapon list?

Since you are not using any bow skills, why bother with the bow anyway? You are not getting the maximum damage you could without having 12 in Marksmanship.

Whirling Defense and Critical Defense is useless to you as it doesn't last long with (0 attributes from Expertise and without having good criticlal hit chances - ie no critical eye or critical strike - it lasts 6 seconds).

For PvE, a rez signet is always required (unless you don't plan on anyone dying or you plan to die first).

Hope this helps.

islander21 · Oct 19, 2006, 09:17 AM // 09:17

I've been using this build for about 2 months in AB and RA now, works extremely well in AB, about 50/50 in RA.

1. Golden Phoenix Strike
2. Fox Fangs
3. Twisting Fangs
4. Arcane Echo
5. Shadow Form
6. Dash
7. Shadow of Haste
8. Caltrops

Dagger Mastery - 12
Shadow Arts - 16
Critical Strikes - 12

In addition i use 20% enchant weapons

Basis:
Dash - SOH up to enemies, prioritizing targets, always choosing MM's or Mesmers if there are no Monks. Right before they enter my agro range, cast Arcane Echo > Shadow Form. Charge target and wail away, at about 17-19 seconds, cast the Echo Form, which will last for at least 25 seconds, for a total of 40 - 45 secs. More than enough time to take out 1-3 targets. If people attempt to kite you, hit them with caltrops. When Shadow Form starts to warn you thats its about to die, hit Dash, which should cancel out SoH, thereby teleporting you back to safety, far away from anybody. Wash, rinse, repeat. Part of the problem of the build is balancing decent damage dealing with energy requirements. I often use Lightning Dmg weapons, because most people expect you to come out with physical dmg weapons.
Health isnt an issue with me, and i often run around with less than 50% health, since your going to loose it all anyways, theres absolutely no point in haveing a Fortitude mod on your weapon, or self heal. If you should find yourself degenning due to disease or bleeding (riposte/deadly riposte) make sure you do have a Fortitude weapon and start stripping off clothes.
Ofcourse we all know the FEW and i repeat FEW skills that can push through Shadow Form, so when you see builds that incorporate these skills IE TOUCHERS, throw some caltrops their way then run away

For the two months that I've used the build, I've fought on both Kurzick and Luxon side, both american and international districts, and so for no one has used or copied this build. It's fast, fun, super effective against MM's, degen mesmers, air spikers, non-stance tanks, just about anything.

OH - and you may have seen me around lately

Pimp Namd Slickback

Yanman.be · Oct 19, 2006, 10:33 AM // 10:33

And you post it in this thread, why?

Lord Oranos · Oct 19, 2006, 11:34 PM // 23:34

You know, it is just a game, god willing people arent as experienced. You might want to explain why the 9 marksmanship is a bad idea instead of flaming/trolling every chance you people get. Last time I checked, this was a community forum, you know, where you actually give people advice. Or hell, try to be nice. Really, what compells you to just try to bash him as hard as you can?

As for the build Id switch out whirling for dark escape, and I usually pack twisting fangs whenever I play my sin.

SAPhoenix · Oct 20, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00

It's a losing battle Lord Oranos (Trust me, I know). Some guys feel it's better to flame/troll than to offer advice and "constructive" criticism.

Personally, to the flamers/trollers, I don't care how leet you are with your sin. If you have nothing intelligent to say when someone posts a build (even if it sucks, at least have the decency to explain why in a respectful manner), then don't post. Simple as that. How the heck do you expect ppl to improve if you flame them the first chance you get?

Scorpion Boy · Oct 20, 2006, 11:36 AM // 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by l Artemis Entreri l

wow yes to all they say but yanman wtf....do u just post to post?i mean seriously u just post a few words.You are a troller. And i think he was asking for constructive criticism.

dont bug me about grammar

Don't feed the troll

Yanman.be · Oct 20, 2006, 11:42 AM // 11:42

I'm sorry...? I might overreact. But if the guy says things like

Quote:

ok. first of all the bow i use is drago's flatbow, thus the 9 req. that bow happens to be a +15% while in a stance, and whirling defense is a stance and if i am shooting a bow than it is better than critical defenses because it lasts longer and has a higher block rate

...What should I respond to that? If he believes it works that way....I'm not going to correct him.

Lord Oranos · Oct 22, 2006, 07:16 AM // 07:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

I'm sorry...? I might overreact. But if the guy says things like

...What should I respond to that? If he believes it works that way....I'm not going to correct him.

Could prolly say something like the +15 is only in damage, and two weapon atts are overkill, or wasteful.