Curse

XvArchonvX · Nov 06, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Dahl

As if.

SHATTER ENCHANTMENT, gg.

umm that usually won't work. All this would do is hit the cover enchant (i.e. Healing Breeze or something of the like) and prot spirit would negate the damage from SE.

As said before, Vamp Touch ftw.

moriz · Nov 06, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

why vampiric touch? just use vampiric gaze.

kess · Nov 06, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20

if the 55 has spell breaker on, barbed signet and unholy feast will take care of it.

Jetdoc · Nov 06, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

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Originally Posted by moriz

why vampiric touch? just use vampiric gaze.

At 12 blood, gaze only steals 52 health, which leaves him 3 health to reheal.

Vampiric Touch or Bite is all you need - one touch and he's dead. Poof.

Jetdoc · Nov 06, 2006, 06:32 PM // 18:32

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Originally Posted by kess

if the 55 has spell breaker on.

Vampiric Touch is a skill, so Spell Breaker won't stop it.

PanGammon · Nov 06, 2006, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Kill the enchants you give the monk. If he does hide behind spell breaker, Vamp him........ 55 Monks suck in PvP so dont know why theres a problem........

Nero_Fayth · Nov 17, 2006, 03:29 AM // 03:29

Burning. GG enough.

-.- · Nov 17, 2006, 03:38 AM // 03:38

Barbed Signet or Vampiric Touch.

ss1986v2 · Nov 17, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Vampiric Touch ftw!

at even just 9 Blood, it does 56 dmg and will kill him out right. use to love running a touch nec in AB, and finding someone who actually ran a 55 in there. one-touch-kill him 2 or 3 times and they yell at you and ragequit. always fun lol!

LoyalSoldier · Nov 17, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43

You have to keep in mind that there are more than one type of invic-monk. A 55 would be fodder to Vamp touch, but Spirit Bonders would not be soo vunerable. Same with the new monk build using SoA. Vamp Touch may not recharge fast enough to take the monk out.

Samuel Dravis · Nov 17, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Spirit bonders are not likely to work well anymore, particularly against the Searing+Glowing combo of constant damage and burning. SoA doesn't apply to vamp damage. Any of these will die to Diversion though. You could also do Gaze of Contempt (right after he reapplies his prot enchant) + Mind Burn or something.

ss1986v2 · Nov 17, 2006, 05:00 AM // 05:00

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Originally Posted by LoyalSoldier

You have to keep in mind that there are more than one type of invic-monk. A 55 would be fodder to Vamp touch, but Spirit Bonders would not be soo vunerable. Same with the new monk build using SoA. Vamp Touch may not recharge fast enough to take the monk out.

true, but you can work around that. just use the same principle of the touch rangers: spam vamp touch and bite while using your elite for energy management, but instead of OoB, use prodigy. max out energy storage and blood. slap on prodigy and spam away. they will run out of health long before you run out of energy. plus, vamp will bypass/not activate most of the standard invinci-skills: obsidian flesh and most of the earth line, spellbreaker, spirit bond, prot spirit, SoA, and most anything else im forgetting.

Francis Crawford · Nov 17, 2006, 05:38 AM // 05:38

It's not quite as easy as you guys are suggesting; if the 55 HP guy is any good, the battle should last over a minute, and quite possibly over two minutes.

If he plays halfway well, he won't die until his energy supply has run all the way down.

ss1986v2 · Nov 17, 2006, 06:08 AM // 06:08

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Originally Posted by Francis Crawford

It's not quite as easy as you guys are suggesting; if the 55 HP guy is any good, the battle should last over a minute, and quite possibly over two minutes.

If he plays halfway well, he won't die until his energy supply has run all the way down.

actually he should only last about 1/4 sec, the time it takes to cast vamp touch. its an instant kill.

55 hp - 65 hp life steal from vamp = dead 55 monk!

Francis Crawford · Nov 17, 2006, 10:10 AM // 10:10

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Originally Posted by ss1986v2

actually he should only last about 1/4 sec, the time it takes to cast vamp touch. its an instant kill.

55 hp - 65 hp life steal from vamp = dead 55 monk!

Details, details.

I was assuming a more elementalist-oriented build.

Pebbles · Nov 17, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Counters that exsist in the elementalist skill line mainly sit in the fire like.

Burning them is quite effective... I will negate most of there health regeneration. They might use healing breeze in whitch case you would need to fire off a simple AoE spell whitch hits lots of times in sucession. Firestorm/Breath of fire ect

although they don't loose alot of health from an attack if you hit them enough sucessive times with there health regeneration already dealt with.

Other than that necro or mesmer skills are more effective counters.

Random Dude · Nov 17, 2006, 05:21 PM // 17:21

slow him down with with ice skills
then malestorm his ass
he can't cast his stupid enchanments

remember to keep him slowed down with like mind freeze or something

kd is good too
i once met the noob who ran a 55 monk in ab
had to go 1v1 with him
couldn't take him out so i had to run back a little since he was recovering way to eary

while he was running to me i just used meteor and he died with 1 hit +)
idiot dind't put prot spirit on himself o.o