Curse

Sir Mad · Dec 02, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by Silk Weaver

...after TF nerf...

Truely, for me the change of TF was a boost, not a nerf. Cough... Enraged Lounge... cough... But yeah, it depends on your gameplay

XvArchonvX · Dec 03, 2006, 12:28 AM // 00:28

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Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr

errr, all players should have some of their own healing skills, or have a very coordinated team....i dont know about you, but i wont be caught on any character in any situation without SOME self healing

Damage reduction > healing for any non-monk/non-support heal class. That being said, a Thumper is a build meant for a coordinated team. This is why I really tend not to run a thumper when in a normal pug. With hench and heroes, however, it is easy to get your group more well adapted to increase efficiency with the build.

Silk Weaver · Dec 03, 2006, 04:29 AM // 04:29

In GvG, you'd want a healsig for splits, but in HA? No. Healsig on a war is usually a waste, it also means that an SF/Sand Storm hurts... quite a bit more than it should.

Heck HA is stupid simply because you can't frenzy reliably with all these AoEs around. But I digress...

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Originally Posted by Sir Mad

Truely, for me the change of TF was a boost, not a nerf. Cough... Enraged Lounge... cough... But yeah, it depends on your gameplay

I've used Enraged Lunge ever since I evoled my dire pet, really. Never liked thumpers that much.

LightningHell · Dec 03, 2006, 10:49 AM // 10:49

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Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr

errr, all players should have some of their own healing skills, or have a very coordinated team....i dont know about you, but i wont be caught on any character in any situation without SOME self healing

Some characters that are designed to do their jobs by themselves and such have self-heals, but other characters may drop the selfheal entirely to function better. For example, my flagstand Emo doesn't use Heal Party to selfheal, she relies on the monk.

And well, who in serious gameplay (i.e. gameplay that allows the use of thumpers, which is usually seen in coordinated play, like GvG) doesn't have a "very coordinated team"?

The R/W Thumper puts more pressure on the opponent than the usual Warrior in the absence of defense in the form of Healing Signet and extra armor. Making it "defensive" makes it somewhat subpar.