Curse

ak347 · Nov 20, 2006, 06:47 AM // 06:47

Again, to counter the whining about this game being boring because you can't farm anymore, I'm revamping my old list of farm spots for new farming spots in Elona.
Courtesies and gratitude extended to: Garoth (for first posting usage of spoil victor as a farming aid), the guildwiki community, and the inventor of the original 55 build (whos name has been lost in the annals of time)

This sort of amalgamates Junundu farming and 55 monk farming, compiling various bosses that are easily killable. Almost all these farms are possible solo, though I enjoy 2-manning with a bud (and we split the loot depending on if we already got the green or if the person needs it). Also, there is a lot of playing around with henchman flagging (the fallacy of henchman flagging usage during farming is completely untrue - it works and works well).

Since the green weekend has ended and I'm full of greens of varying nature, here are the builds, the bosses, and the tactics to farm them (boss locations can be found on wikipedia - I will list the bosses and how to kill him best):

Vehjin Mines: This run includes 3 bosses definitely, possibly 4
Build: Spoil Victor 55 mo/n (Spoil victor, vampiric bite, balthazar's spirit, +4 mending using a hat switch, essence bond, blessed aura, prot spirit, healing breeze) and -50 offhand and -20 offhand (for dealing with varying dp levels). I use a +5e sword of enchanting because melee attacks on warrior monsters keeps them from running from your SpVi (again courtesy of Garoth). Also, it puts them in range of the vampiric bite.

Start off the run with full hench/hero party and yourself set up for a 55 spoil victor build. Leave from Jennur's Horde, head north and into a tunnel in the cliffs. Flag henchies to kill the two groups of gravebanes 1 by 1 while you sit back. Keep going through tunnel till you see the boss (Marobeh Sharptail - dervish boss, drops Eshekibeh's Scythe), flag your henchmen in to kill the gravebanes (their degen stacks too much with the damage being dealt to you and possibility of burning from the scytheclaws.
Now, I will explain this once - if one henchman dies they all have to die or you can pray he gets res'd by a monk, otherwise he will steal your drops by being in the vicinity. If a henchman dies, use the others to finish off the targets (gravebanes in this case), and then get them killed by constantly moving the flag back and forth in a small area - essentially making them sitting ducks for the boss to kill (very quickly usually). Then go in and get yourself killed and everyone resses at the shrine (make sure to unflag). Rinse and repeat till all the annoying targets are destroyed (gravebanes in this case). This is called the Cleavage technique (yes, i know people know about this but some don't and I like the name

).
Once done with the gravebanes, flag your henchies out of sight (till their names are greyed out) and then do away with the boss. Continue southwest and kill Pehnsed Loudmouth (nothing special, again use flagged henchies to clear the path to him, flag them out of sight and then kill him). Watch out for burning again. He drops Pehnsed's voice (spear).
From here, head dead north. Flag henchies to kill minotaurs and giants till you get to Shak-Jarin the Justicebringer (drops Shak-Jarin's Sword). This time use henchies to kill the griffin's and possibly a few trackers (they interrupt with distracting shot which sucks). Watch out for the warrior skrees and shak-jarin himself because they use savage slash. Set up decoy enchantments like casting essence bond again so they take that bait. If you wish, you can continue north and then east towards Nehpek the Remorseless. When I went after him, he didn't spawn (probably since I hadn't finished some quests in that area). Area complete - 3-4 bosses, about 40-60 mins (depending on skill).

Dehjarin Estate:
55 spoil victor build, full hench party. 5 bosses.
Exit south from Kodonur crossroads, using flagged henchies to kill kournan's. First target is Colonel Chaklin (Drops Chaklin's Axe). "Cleavage" ALL the seer's and oppressors (they strip enchantments) and then flag em out. Take him down, again watching for interrupts from the kournan guards and chaklin himself (decoy with EB). Two options from here. First, you can head south, clearing with flagged henchies till you get to the fortress. Once again, "Cleavage" kournan monks, oppressors, and seers and then take down both Colonel Custo (drops Custo's Hornbow) and Corporal Luah (drops some spear or shield or something lol). Second option (or you could do this after) is east across the bridge from Chaklin. "Cleavage" seers and oppressors and then kill Major Jeahr (drops Jeahr's Daggers). Head northeast and "Cleavage" stoneaxes and bluetongue hekets (stoneaxes because they are interrupting bastards) and take out Podaltur (who conveniently is surrounded by necromancer heket's that don't affect you much). Area cleared - 5 bosses, 5 great greens, 30-50 mins depending on your skill and on spawns.

Barbarous Shore:
55 SpVi build, full hench party.
I'm getting tired of excess typing, you should know the routine by now.
Exit from Camp Hojanu. Kill Lieutenant Shagu in the southeast, "Cleavage" bosuns, doctors, mind readers, and torturers. He only spawns if you have cleared the quests in the area. Use lieutenants, weapon and wind masters as energy fodder for BS and EB. Head to the far south and take out Commander Wahli, again "Cleavage" the appropriate enemies.
Morolah, Alsin, and Mhedi, although tempting, are nigh impossible to solo farm due to the high density of enemies including several doctors and necros/mesmers.
Area Cleared: 2 bosses, 20-30 minutes (especially dependant on spawns and patrols).

Jahai Bluffs:
55 Spiteful Spirit + Insidious parasite build (rest of skills are the same), full hench party. Use of the SpVi build means you can farm one less boss though the run will be faster.
Exit from Command Post and head south to Corporal Argon. "Cleavage" seers, priests, and oppressors. Take him down from his shield (watch out for meteors from the scribes - they come down surprisingly frequently).
Head southwest and take out Tundoss the Destroyer (for his awesome looking bow). "Cleavage" bluetongues and possibly stoneaxes (one stoneaxe is usually ok, more than one means nearly constant interrupts).
Head far east and slightly south and kill Churrta the Rock for his hammer. He only spawns if eavesdropping quest is complete or not active. Watch out for the stoneshard crags since they cause knockdown with Stoning and Churrta himself uses devastating hammer to induce further weakness on top of Ebon Hawk.
Finally, head far northeast for Admiral Kantoh sitting in the Jahai Fortress (he drops a nice staff). He is also surrounded by easy to kill baddies that have a good chance to drop armor. If you're using a SpVi build, this run becomes excruciatingly slow, so use the SS build if you can. The elite spears and scribes can all be bunched up by a little crowd control, and all you have to do is melee attack the zealots/guards to keep them in range. Careful of guards interrupting you and meteors. Kantoh himself is cake. Area Cleared: 5 bosses total = 40-60 minutes, 30-40 if don't include Kantoh.

Floodplain of Mahnkelon
55 SpVi build for one boss, exit from Rilohn Refuge (I think - I mean the city south of the uppermost city :S).
Two possible bosses, a little variety in tactics. You can use the build to farm Zelnehlun Fastfoot for his bow easily using the SpVi build (won't spawn if Drakes on a Plain hasn't been done).
Terob Roundback is different because he can be attacked by an adjacent heket mob (cannabalism anyone?). What I found best was I switched to a healer monk build and got my two dervish friends to pressure him to death before the other hekets could kill him. Yes, I could have picked better builds for the pressurers, but they didn't have access to character/build variety. He can be farmed with the SpVi build too, but the stoneaxes make it tricky and "Cleavage" doesn't work well here. Use the henchies to deal with the group of monsters between the exit from Rilohn and Terob. Area Cleared: 2 bosses, time of completion is variable, max is about 15 minutes for an experienced farmer.

Forum Highlands:
Still Testing - 55 SpVi build. 2-4 bosses.
Exiting from Jennur's Horde allows you to attack Rual the Overbearing. "Cleavage" priests, oppressors, and seers. Watch out for intense interrupts from the rangers and guards. If that leaves you with too few enemies, you can aggro a nearby group of skree to feed your energy pool (though they interrupt as well). Take down Rual for his hammer.
If you exit from Kodash Bazaar, Bolten Largebelly is right outside and ripe for the picking. Careful due to the many stoneaxes around. Here is where I was playing around with some builds - Searing Flames + Glyph of Conc 55 monk, SS monk, SoJ monk, SpVi build. Each succeeds moderately well, SoJ the least and SpVi the most. Interrupts suck alot though.
The most testing was being done on Korshek the Immolated and Churahm, Spirit Warrior (both djinn's). The problem is that you have to "Cleavage" the roaring ethers. Unfortunately, the henchies all die really fast to both bosses, leaving a slow painful process of whittling each group down. I managed to kill Churahm once, but Korshek proved too much. Good luck with these guys.
Area Incompleted - 3/4 bosses, 40-60 minutes, VERY DIFFICULT.

Sunward Marches:
Mahto Sharptooth is far north from the command post exit. Use the 55 SpVi build to take him down for his cool shield. Watch out for stoneaxes. No cleavage required though henchies may be used to clear the way.
Eshim Mindclouder and his pimp staff I took down using my two dervish buddies all out whacking away at him while I healed - takes about 2-3 minutes per run like this.
Area Completed - 2 bosses, 2-3 mins for Eshim, 15 minutes for Mahto.

Marga Coast:
Garoth already provided a great article on this. Chor the Bladed, Jerneh Nightbringer, Bubahl Icehands and Lunto Sharpfoot all go down very easily (easiest of the farming runs). Use henchies to kill patrols and clear paths to each. I added Chidehkir, Light of the Blind in the north/central region to the list. Can't take him down using just the 55 Sp/Vi build, so I had one of my heros stand near and use interrupts on him while BiPing me (yes, its 50% chance reduced, but its also a quick, easy kill). Area Cleared: 5 bosses, 30 minutes max.

Yatendi Canyons
Full henchies, 55 SpVi.
Tricky run. Exit from Chantry of Secrets. Head south, and "Cleavage" all oppressors, seers, and priests that surround Corporal Suli (after clearing the path to him). Cross the bridge, use the henchies to kill the first group of beetles, and then take down Hajok Earthguardian (watch out for interrupts from the rain beetles). Just a random reminder, but remember to move your henchies OUT OF THE AREA till their names are grey. Final boss is Makdeh the Aggravating near Hajok - though she is a mesmer, don't be daunted - she has no enchant stripping. Watch out for interrupts from trackers and skree warriors. Also, note that if you get close to her, she will use Tease on you which lives up to her namesake. In other words, don't get too close - just let spoil victor do the work. Area Cleared: 3 bosses, 20-30 minutes (pretty tough "Cleavage").

Resplendent Makuun
Easy as pie, one boss (Jishol Darksong), 55 SpVi build = 3 minutes.

Turai's Procession
55 SpVi build, exit from Gates of Desolation (head south). Head southeast and kill Korr, Living Flame for his cool colored artifact. Watch out for the stoneshard crag and stone mesa since both cause knockdown. Compounded with burning means that a missed healing breeze is quite possible and quite fatal. Tricky. Head further southeast and take out Sergeant Behnwa for his bow, using "Cleavage" on the appropriate mesmers/necros. Watch out for interrupts again. Area cleared - 2 bosses, 15 minutes.

Poisoned Outcrop
55 SpVi build, full hench party
Exit North from Lair of the Forgotten and head east and kill Fondalz the Spiteful for his offhand. Use your henchies to clear out the undead and watch out for bug popups. "Cleavage" grey giants, dune carvers (dervishes with enchant stripping), awakened heads (mesmers), and cavaliers (they resurrect). Area cleared - 1 boss, 10-20 minutes (tricky cleavage, henchies aren't strong enough oftentimes so you have to keep "Cleavaging").

Shattered Ravines
Any build, full hench party, friend(s) recommended (makes it much easier, allows for chain res'ing).
Head south out of the Lair of the Forgotten. To the east is Uhiwi the Smoky and his awesome skinned bow, and to the west is Dunshek the Purifier and his nice wand. Use your henchies to clear the way to get to the spoor (make sure no enemies are around). Get in the junundu and kill any nearby patrols for corpses (can hope for blinding breath). Just charge in and take out the boss and then unflag the henchies so that they can come to your rescue. Make sure you have access to the "Leave Junundu" skill as that can help you resurrect fallen henchies and get them all into junundu once they're done being decoys for you getting to the spoor. Remember to flag your henchies out of view. Area Cleared - 2 bosses, 10-15 minutes (quite easy). Almost always a chest near Uhiwi.
Thanks to Kielus, he mentioned another ranger boss near Uhiwi - Koahm the Weary. He's slightly northwest from Uhiwi along the sulfur sands. Take him down for his flatbow, and adding ~3-5 minutes on your run timer.

Sulfurous Wastes
Any build, full hench party, friend(s) recommended.
Head south from the Ruins of Sahlahja. Get into your junundu and head dead east. Park your henchies near the base before the sand changes color and lure either the margonites or the mandragors towards you to kill. Now you can approach Hajkor, Mystic Flame from either side. If you approach him from the margonite side, take out the additional djinn patrol. Just smash Hajkor to bits for his awesome wand. You can then head south west for Alem the Unclean. Flag your henchies way back, and then you and a friend can rush in and take Alem out in a few seconds. Area Cleared - 2 bosses, 20 minutes for both. Almost always a chest along the way.
If you head north out of the Gates of Desolation, you and a recommended two friends can go after Vahlen the Silent and his horde of undead. Wait for the mandragors surrounding the spoor to move on before getting into the junundu and killing them. Almost always a chest in the sulfur near Vahlen. This area cleared - 1 boss, 5-10 minutes.

Well, I'm exhausted right now. Hope these freebies help you out and start getting people to think a bit more. I'm going to leave some other farming areas secrets, but this should keep you guys occupied.
As for the whiners on both sides of the fence (this game is too boring or stop telling everyone where the farming is good), a) Nightfall is awesome and ripe with farming opportunities, b) F the greedy bastards that want to hog all the greens for themselves. If this article can lower the prices of all the aforementioned greens just a little bit, I will be much happier (since I'm now feeling too lazy to farm greens and would rather farm gold to buy these greens if I ever need them again lol).

Good luck farming. Remember, even just clearing the mobs to get to these bosses have netted me and my buddies dozens of gold drops, dozens of gold chests, and finally (to top off the pile) the greens from most of these bosses.
Ain't the UW boring yet? lol

Resp · Nov 20, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

..... full hench party
..... full hench party
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..... full hench party

thats not 'farm' m8.

Narutoscryed · Nov 20, 2006, 07:15 AM // 07:15

not sure.. but the dictonary definition of solo is this..

"A person who works, acts, or performs alone."

So bringing a full hench group is not considerd solo.

here is the link

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/solo

Ironicly what you are doing brings this definition to mind: Steal

"to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force"

You are "forcing" your hench outside of drop distance so they cannot get the drops they are entitled to.

Here is the link for that :
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/steal

So by dictonary definition you are stealing my friend. and stealing.. is not farming..

Cow Tale · Nov 20, 2006, 07:26 AM // 07:26

what do u think farming is? lol. farming is just doing the same run over and over again. has nothing to do with whos in ur party. i obtained over 50 greens in elona this weekend using a method similar to this, using only heros and hench. if thats not farming....what is it? if it didnt drop for them in the first place its kinda hard to steal it man.

Narutoscryed · Nov 20, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54

It has always seemed to me that the most effiecent farming be done in groups of 1-4.

Farming as a term to me means, "to use a specific build or skillset to target a specific enemy that yields the items of intrest."

and to me farming has a very low dependency on others. that means a max of 4 people.

So when i go out to farm lets say trolls(very general statement) i would bring a build for trolls.. granted that build may vary according to character class..

So that is what farming is to me. its just my opinion.. but oh well..
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Now onto the whole hench thing..

The game makers developed this game so that if you brought henchies or heros into your party to help you with whatever your doing... as a result they would take a portion of your drops.. its only fair..

Now to exploit an oversight on the henchie flagging system and make it so that they do not get the share of the drops they are entitled to get because they are in your party and they did help you fight... as said in my previous post is considerd by the dictonary to be stealing.

Now is it considerd farming.. well not by my standards no.. but by others.. probably.. because farming in gw has no official termonology..

What i would recomend though is that anyone who does this ai flagging thing to get drops for themselves...should probably not announce it on this site..

because anet has been known to ban people for explioting an obvious bug/expliot/oversight..

if you look in the eula its in that.. and its quite clear..
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Honestly i dont think that any self respecting farmer would be caught dead doing this trick.. no offence but the main goal of a farmer is to acomplish somthing with as little help as possible.. i belive that in itself is the essence of what drives all farmers..

Grasping Darkness · Nov 20, 2006, 07:54 AM // 07:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narutoscryed

not sure.. but the dictonary definition of solo is this..

"A person who works, acts, or performs alone."

So bringing a full hench group is not considerd solo.

here is the link

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/solo

Ironicly what you are doing brings this definition to mind: Steal

"to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force"

You are "forcing" your hench outside of drop distance so they cannot get the drops they are entitled to.

Here is the link for that :
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/steal

So by dictonary definition you are stealing my friend. and stealing.. is not farming..

hater...
http://merriamwebster.com/dictionary/condescending

oh and this too

http://merriamwebster.com/dictionary/self%20righteous

Loshi · Nov 20, 2006, 08:10 AM // 08:10

Before you guys turn this into a flame war...
The fellow is solo-ing the boss. Not the surrounding enemies. Therefore, it is still boss soloing, even by your silly definition.

I believe this style of farming is the wave of the future. Thank you for this post. Now maybe all the people who started screaming 'OMFG FARMIGN IS DED ONOZ' will finally be quiet.

Narutoscryed · Nov 20, 2006, 08:53 AM // 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loshi

Before you guys turn this into a flame war...
The fellow is solo-ing the boss. Not the surrounding enemies. Therefore, it is still boss soloing, even by your silly definition.

I believe this style of farming is the wave of the future. Thank you for this post. Now maybe all the people who started screaming 'OMFG FARMIGN IS DED ONOZ' will finally be quiet.

Im sorry but i really cannot understand my statment as being silly.

other than my own personal opinion on the subject at the end its all fact.

and anet eula does refer to an activity like this as an exploit.

I really was trying to give fair warning and a bit of insight onto the subject.

Lol i belive that I have recieve a tad to much flak over my concerns here..

but if you recall some people in the past have been reported as being banned for using the bug in pvp that makes your weapons dissapear... now that was not a serious bug at all.. but still nontheless bad things happend...

So if you want to flame me that is fine.. but i honestly cannot call an oversight in the programing of the flag system a "wave of the future"

But as i seem to be having trouble making any valid points these days.... i will bow out of this one before i get into even more trouble

Div · Nov 20, 2006, 08:59 AM // 08:59

So his statement was slightly off technically, why make such a big fuss about it? Go do something else with your life...

shinslw · Nov 20, 2006, 10:04 AM // 10:04

Yeap it is boss soloing, he is even kind enough to post it in neat paragraphs. What's there to complain. Thank you for your effort ak347 .

Bloodied Blade · Nov 20, 2006, 11:19 AM // 11:19

@narutoscryed- On the whole "solo & 3/4 man is faster than hench" comment: Henchmen are faster than anything other than bringing a full team, and convincing them to run out of loot range before the boss dies. The whole point is that you move your henchies out of loot range so that you get all the items that are dropped.

Melkorium · Nov 20, 2006, 11:58 AM // 11:58

I really don't agree with this argument that the Henchies are being cheated out of their loot by sending them away while you solo a boss. After all they are being 'paid' for the work they actually did, in that they will receive their fair share of the drops while killing the mobs surrounding a boss and on the way to the boss.

Since you killed the boss solo, you're due his drops.

On a more realistic note, the Henchies don't care they're AI whose sole function in life is to prevent you being killed by blocking attacks with their face.

Overall I like this way of clearing a zone, it lets you level up your Heroes while making sure you're the only one with a shot at the Green. Which to me is ok, as they don't have ANY use for it.

korcan · Nov 20, 2006, 12:06 PM // 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymasamune

So his statement was slightly off technically, why make such a big fuss about it? Go do something else with your life...

i couldnt agree more

and thxs to the op for putting in the time to share his insights

andrewf · Nov 20, 2006, 04:57 PM // 16:57

That's not solo =/

I find it pathetic that people uses henchies to ease their job of killing the boss and claim that they're soloing =/

shadow ranger · Nov 20, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewf

That's not solo =/

I find it pathetic that people uses henchies to ease their job of killing the boss and claim that they're soloing =/

I dont think the hench mind.

Koning · Nov 20, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

The title is indeed misleading.

It's better to call it 'Farming bosses and their greens with help of hench in Elona'

that's after all everything you are doing here. (and me too ofcourse

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ak347 · Nov 20, 2006, 06:42 PM // 18:42

Would you like some cheese with that whine?

For christ sakes, I try to help out the community and get people bitching over technicalities. Exploiting the game? I'm pretty sure they designed the game so that nobody could get drops if they were off the minimap. I'm sure they thought about flagging henchies for farming. How would you limit that? Flag them only onto your minimap? What happens when you move? What happens if there are impassable land features between you and the henchies if you move linearly away from them?

Oh, and narutoscryed, you yourself seem to be exploiting features in the game. Your use of shield of absorption in conjunction with protective spirit on a 135 hp monk doesn't actually make sense. SoA reduces damage by 5 but prot spirit means you take 13-14 dmg per hit. Oversight in programming much?
A direct quote from your thread: "now you would think that with 135 hp you would take more than 5 damage. because if you take 10% outa 135.. its more than 10.. thus you would be taking at least 5 damage per hit... but with prot spirit and shield of absorbtion on you will never take any damage at all.. take it as you will.. i just call it an oprotunity."
You call down on me about exploiting bugs and disobeying the eula?

You want a definition war? You're killing monsters for their loot. That's murder 1 and robbery.

Here's one for you:
hyp‧o‧crite /ˈhɪpəkrɪt/
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

Hmmmm, lets list some other bugs people have used to farm. Rock farming anyone? You hide behind a rock and let things "pretend" to hit you as they die to spiteful spirit? I see those glitches and yet all I see in their posts is "Good job, you can solo some gorillas and scorpions with a ranger". Why don't you flame there.

If anet hasn't fixed flagged henchies by now, they never will. It's obvious that they can be flagged out of the screen so that you can gain loot - they're not stupid you know.

Farming by definition is doing something over and over again. You can farm loot, farm titles, farm lightbringer points. The latter doesn't require "to use a specific build or skillset to target a specific enemy that yields the items of intrest". A farmer is someone who repeats something (anythng) towards furthering a goal. Every action I have posted becomes farming if you do the run more than once.

And finally, in regards to the title. Yes it is a bit misleading, but it also attracts the most attention. I did this to attract all the whiners. Apparently, I attracted whiners from the other side of the fence too. Oh well, such is life, no? The mods can change it if they find it so misleading as to offend, but that's their perogative (apologies for time spent to change the thread name if it happens). Think of it as selling a fun way to get green items.

RebelHero · Nov 20, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

He said soloing all over Elona. Not soloing all of Elona. If you want to whine about everything go do something else, because I for one dont like ppl like that. He solo's the bosses, and if that isnt enough for you, well tough luck!

kielus · Nov 20, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

well, since NF, soloing means sth else. As many bosses have many nasty friends around, it's way easier to kill "guards" and then come back alone for boss himself, it's easier way, more efficient i guess, and then it's a real 1v1 :P anyways. The guide is .... wonderful?? at least for the number of bosses mentioned, in few places u can use other builds, doesn't matter much though. The idea is great.

one thing
The Shattered Ravines
full hench party, exit Lair of Forgotten, head right, to wurm spoor, kill monk boss, go to the sulfur route left, kill ranger boss (xxx The Weary), then go upwards, kill Uhwi, then go right to place where you capped elite for Junundu, another ranger boss. Makes the run a few minutes longer, but doubles number of greenies. Greetz

and btw. if u want to solo in 0 hench/man party, feel free, since it is faster with henchies and easier, why not doing it?? some ppl use bugs/glitches (like mentioned above) and they are not flamed.... gosh.... let's better stop farming at all as it's n00b etc. etc. if u like it this way, noone should care :P
this guy made at least some effort to put it all together and give to community, have at least chunk of respect to his work :P
(bah i'm hypocrite, and i don't care :P)

Solo is a strict definition, solo killing specific monster for specific loot. UW, FoW are basing on killing same mobs, lot of them to get specific items (shards, ecto's); green farming is to kill specific bosses for their unique items, it is about killing the boss itself, other mobs doesn't matter. To solo a greenie is to kill the boss solo. RebelHero said that already, he kills THE BOSS on his own, the "guards" are not counting as part of "solo farm", they are removed to make soloing easier and faster and isn't the most easy and fast and non stressful farm a target of most of you?? And this way you can do more things at a time, getting blessings can help to increase level of Lightbringer/Sunspear when getting to diffrent bosses, also helps to get from one boss to other one.
And btw. if you "steal" the loot from henchies, tell them to send it to ANet, get screens etc. They doesn't seem to want anyone as their lawyer. They are implemented to help players to achieve things they can't achieve on their own/when there are not enough human players around. ANet put them into game as well as the flag system to improve the system, to give you control over them, the way you use this power/control is up to you.

ak347 · Nov 20, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17

Thanks Kielus, I updated the run