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king proculus · Nov 06, 2006, 07:32 AM // 07:32

any monks out there know of a great healing build that can be used in almost any mission besides pve woh build?

lord catos · Nov 06, 2006, 09:12 AM // 09:12

There was a good build.
Now whit gw-nf and all the updates where looking fore wan.
I have read over a 138 hp shield monk that was interesting.

Pick Me · Nov 06, 2006, 03:31 PM // 15:31

Here is a simple one I use, and I use it wisely.

Blessed Light (e)
Orison of Healing
Heal Other
Vigorous Spirit
Dwayna's Kiss
Signet of Devotion
Mend Ailment
Rebirth/Resurrection Chant

Hope this helps.

Talin_The_Medic · Nov 06, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Ok do yourself a favor, don't use that blessed light build, absolutely no energy management

Try this one.. (if you have nightfall)

Dismiss condition
Glimmer of Light
Orison of Healing
Holy Veil
Ether Signet
Holy Haste
Inspired Hex
Optional slot

That blessed light build would be good, with some energy management

And WoH is a really really great build.. pm me if you want the one I like

Pick Me · Nov 07, 2006, 02:39 PM // 14:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talin_The_Medic

Ok do yourself a favor, don't use that blessed light build, absolutely no energy management

Try this one.. (if you have nightfall)

Dismiss condition
Glimmer of Light
Orison of Healing
Holy Veil
Ether Signet
Holy Haste
Inspired Hex
Optional slot

That blessed light build would be good, with some energy management

And WoH is a really really great build.. pm me if you want the one I like

Yes, I never said it was good for energy management, but then again, I said I used it wisely. Thus, I don't overheal, I don't just spam spells for the sake of it, and I almost never run out of energy (only when the PUG I'm in is totally stupid, do I run out of energy a few times).

I think your optional slot should be a rez of some sort.

Effigy · Nov 07, 2006, 06:35 PM // 18:35

The thing with BL is that it acts as a form of passive energy management, just like Signet of Devotion. By accomplishing multiple tasks with one spell, you can save energy. That said, active energy management is never a bad idea if you can fit it in.

BL and Boon Prot are both solid choices in PvE as well as PvP. Glimmer Prot or WoH are other options you might consider. I have my PvE hero monks set up almost identically to the BL hybrid build I use in PvP and it works quite well, only with a few accommodations for their AI.

Talin_The_Medic · Nov 07, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

Blessed light can work well, if like you said, you used it wisely

Any build can be used without energy management and still be just as effective, so if you can use that build as is, good job lol

I just personally don't like B-Light because it's 10 energy... without some kind of energy management I just don't like 10 energy spells (but that's just me)

(to king proculus) Everyone plays monk a little differently, you're most likely going to get a large variety of suggestions

olly123 · Nov 07, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07

the boon protect

Reversal of fortune
gardion
signet of devotion
Mend aliament (for self use)
Res of choice ( normaly CoP, but in PVE its easyer to kite so less of a need imo, and yes all monsk shoudl carry a res of one ype or another)
channaling ( as i belive there is no inspire hex move in NF)
energy drain {E}
divine boon

attrabutes

divine 16 (12 + 1+3)
insperation (9)
protection 10 ( i think, 9+1) ( aso take a major proteect for extra heal afte ru have put boon on)

Thomas.knbk · Nov 07, 2006, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Go full prot, with as only 2 skills to heal Zealous Benediction and Signet of devotion. the 50% thing shouldn't be a problem since PvE monsters rarely spike.

Effigy · Nov 07, 2006, 08:41 PM // 20:41

Prot is good, but having some pure healing helps too. This is why Gift or Glimmer fit nice with a prot bar. Or, of course, the everpresent Divine Boon.

ShaneOfMach · Nov 08, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Orison of Healing
Vigorous Spirit
Dwayna's Kiss
Healing Light (I think, the one that gives energy)
Remove Hex
Mend Condition
Heal Party (or Heal Other)
Res

olly123 · Nov 08, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

Go full prot, with as only 2 skills to heal Zealous Benediction and Signet of devotion. the 50% thing shouldn't be a problem since PvE monsters rarely spike.

love the sound of thta build almnost no energy

, and so good heal, reduce the Protect a bit and aadd gift of health and man ur bee the boom

, must try that when i cap zealous benediction

Hella Good · Nov 08, 2006, 08:03 PM // 20:03

BL, Life Sheath, Shield of Regen, ZB are all good PvE elites. Heal Party is a nice spell to have since AoE damage is common. I love cranking up HP under Cultist's Fervor and healing with sig of Devo and Sig of Rejuv. Just please don't spam HBreeze, not even in PvE.

Darkpower Alchemist · Nov 08, 2006, 08:42 PM // 20:42

Heal Party is solid for a secondary healer. I used it as a primary healer previously, but not in recent, since it seems to be less favored by solid primary heal monks.

I use this build in PvE for the most part,though some won't agree with it(Most won't) but I have played it rather well and get compliments on my monking abilities.

[skill=card]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill=card]Healing Breeze[/skill][skill=card]Heal Other[/skill][skill=card]Signet of Devotion[/skill][skill=card]Signet of Rejuvenation[/skill][skill=card]Aegis[/skill][skill=card]Shield of Judgment[/skill][skill=card]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

The spread of my build covers all the monk attributes;

Healing 10(9+1),Protection 9(8+1),Smiting 13(9+3+1),Divine Favor 10(9+1)

With this spread I have played a 2 monk team well, defending and healing my teammates with equal effectiveness. Take into account that I have been playing a monk for better than a year now, so it may not be what you want to use totally.

Previous monk builds are effective as either a Healing or Protection monk only, while this build gives me the ability to even defend myself to a degree.

That being said,I would say that you could switch out SoJ for your prefered elite of choice, take away the smiting and employ it, and the att points, as you see fit. WoH,being the spell of choice by most PvE monks, but it is totally up to you. The only definite to this setup is that Div Fav must be 10.

In Tombs last night,I ran this build;

[skill=card]Protective Spirit[/skill][skill=card]Healing Breeze[/skill][skill=card]Heal Other[/skill][skill=card]Signet of Devotion[/skill][skill=card]Infuse Health[/skill][skill=card]Aegis[/skill][skill=card]Word of Healing[/skill][skill=card]Resurrection Chant[/skill]

The use of infuse is to counteract what is not normally seen in PvE, that being a spike. With 3 big heals like in this bar, keeping party members alive was rather easy,with a little help from a N/Mo with Heal Party. All who play Tombs knows that their is only 1 monk in a B/P group, so that means your monk game must be stronger than normal to achieve success.

Good luck finding your own build of choice.

NME · Nov 08, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

[skill=card]Orison of Healing[/skill][skill=card]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill][skill=card]Heal Other[/skill][skill=card]Heal Party[/skill][skill=card]Mend Condition[/skill][skill=card]Peace and Harmony[/skill][skill=card]Divine Boon[/skill][skill=card]Rebirth[/skill]

Divine Favor: 16 (12+1+1)
Healing Prayers: 13 (12+1)
Protection Prayers: 4 (3+1)

You can replace Mend Condition or Heal Party with Healing Touch if needed. This build works great! Don't spam to fast though. Orison of Healing will heal for a total of 177 HP (63+63+51).

Talin_The_Medic · Nov 09, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

Smiting... in a heal build.. I just don't understand it.. at all

I don't recommend Heal Party for most ANYTHING, except a few certain missions and things such as tombs and the deep.

Infuse shouldn't be used in PvE.. I've never found spiking that prevelent.

Heal other is nice if you don't use it as a main heal, if you do you need secondary heal and nice energy management (Try the Scribe's Insight build)

Regen mostly isn't very effective, as far as I've seen, and not to say Hella Good is making a bad choice but DO NOT USE SHIELD OF REGEN.... It's a suped up healing breeze that shouldn't even be an elite, use something useful like WoH or an energy skill (OoB or MoR maybe).

If you have nightfall try Healer's Boon, it's pretty amazing.

And once again, in my opinion.... go heal or prot... don't try and go both.

You can be superior in one, or average in the two, you decide. (unless you use 2 sups, which isn't recommended, at all)

Please note I'm VERY opinionated when it comes to healing builds... I don't think most of the above builds are as effective as they could be. *runs from the flames* FIRE FIRE!!!

doomsayer · Nov 09, 2006, 10:48 AM // 10:48

Mo/x

Attributes:
Heal:12+3+1
Divine: 12+1

Skills:
1:Glimmer Of Light [Elite]
2: Dwayna's Kiss
3:Orison Of Healing
4:Heal Other / Some other
5:Heal Party
6:Holy Haste
7:Healig Touch
8:Resucrretion Chant

Pick Me · Nov 09, 2006, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Hey Talin,

"I'm using Mend Ailment on Talin_The_Medic."

Anyway, anyone speaking their opinion should never be flamed. Corrected, however, is something different.

But I agree, Heal or Protect, but not both, is the preferable choice (unless you just started, where your skills are limited anyway).

I'm guessing the reasoning for SoJ in a heal/prot build is if the enemy can't attack (kd), then there is less damage taken by your party.

I don't have any skills in NF yet, so Healer's Boon will be one I'll look to get ASAP.

Effigy · Nov 09, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

The reason hybrids work is Divine Favor. By adding a big bonus heal to all your monk spells, you can afford to run lower levels in Healing and Protection while still maintaining effectiveness. Hell, you can even afford points for Inspiration or Shadow Arts if you like. Divine Favor just rocks, period.

moko · Nov 09, 2006, 02:33 PM // 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomsayer

Mo/x

Attributes:
Heal:12+3+1
Divine: 12+1

Skills:
1:Glimmer Of Light [Elite]
2: Dwayna's Kiss
3:Orison Of Healing
4:Heal Other / Some other
5:Heal Party
6:Holy Haste
7:Healig Touch
8:Resucrretion Chant

sorry, but this build is absolutely crap.

Glimmer of Light is all you need beside one other 5 energy heal, its spammable and should always be recharging. you have no, absolutely no energy management. you dont have condition NOR hex removal. Res Chant prooves that its a fail;

gg