Curse

Francis Crawford · Nov 24, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Death Nova
Animate Bone Minions (against bosses or melee mobs) or Animate Bone Fiends (against melee mobs only)
Edge of Extinction
Icy Veins (against melee mobs only)
Rotting Flesh (against melee mobs only, to soften them up for EoE)

Think of the possibilities.

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If the boss does PBAoE damage, of course, the whole thing is vastly easier. On the other hand, it may not work so well if he happens to be running Chilblains, not that a self-poisoning boss is all that hard to kill anyway ...

trugx · Nov 24, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

really think this is not good
where is your self heal?
where would you get corpses from?

benjef · Nov 24, 2006, 10:03 PM // 22:03

henchies for corpse at begin :P

Francis Crawford · Nov 24, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by trugx

where is your self heal?

Hmm. Self heal for an MM who's not running Vampiric Horrors and can't easily get it from his secondary profession. Oh, that's a tough one.

Wait! I have it! How about Taste of Death??!!

Taste of Death in a minion bombing build?!?! I congratulate myself on the originality!

/sarcasm

As for where the corpses come from, I guess I need to spell that out in small words ... It is now possible to take heroes or henchies with you, and only have to share the cash drops with them, while the item drops are all yours. There is another thread in the forum that talks about that.

samcobra · Nov 24, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36

You do realize that eoe will RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up your own minions as well, right?

Francis Crawford · Nov 25, 2006, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by samcobra

You do realize that eoe will RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up your own minions as well, right?

Yes. That's the point!!

The goal is to have a number of Death Novas firing off pretty much all at once.

That's why I think it has potential to spike bosses.

Mesmer in Need · Nov 25, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24

troll ungent for self heal?

Francis Crawford · Nov 25, 2006, 03:48 AM // 03:48

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Originally Posted by Mesmer in Need

troll ungent for self heal?

Dark Bond (not exactly a heal) and Taste of Death are much more efficient in both time and energy, although they have the obvious drawback of hurting your minions.

Besides, hurting minions can be a good thing as much as it is a drawback.

The basic idea is to stop healing them when they're degenning fairly quickly, spam Death Nova on as many as you can, and Taste of Death one or two of them to get the bomb off. Maybe deliberately set off one Death Nova early for the extra poison degen.

Actually, one limitation is how many Death Novas and Icy Veins you can get off in a 30 second window -- or 36 seconds with an enchantment extending mod. (Note -- the enchantment extension is only important for the first 6 seconds of enchantment casting or so. There's plenty of time to switch to a +energy/-regen set, if for some reason you cast yourself dry.)

trugx · Nov 25, 2006, 01:03 PM // 13:03

if you want troll unquent you will have to have soul reap, death magic, wilder survival+beast ( will have to be 2 superior runes or also very small atr points)

i still don't think this idea is good for farming compared to many other and quicker ways. here you have to: go out kill heroes and survive yourself, make minions, get to boss ( need run skills if it ain't a just outside town boss) then Death nova them, then try to get the death novas off at the right place.

at a warrior farm it is just: out, run to boss, kill nearby monks (theese could be a problem as your minions won't run to far to a backline monk), and then kill boss, a/e silver armor is even faster so for green farm i think this build is doomed

Prince Anubis · Nov 25, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27

Maybe this helps a bit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXkAGRQZQSU

(Video is made before the nerf)

PS: Not my build. Not my idea (just linking thru)

Dark Dragon · Nov 25, 2006, 01:39 PM // 13:39

wow just wow