Curse

The Muffen Man · Nov 14, 2006, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Hi guys need some help here, my build is as follows ( its for pvp):

13 Critical
14 Dagger
8 Tactics

Mark of Instability
Burst of Aggression
Shove
Black Lotus Strike
Twisting Fangs
Falling Spider
Rez

Now I can decide what to use Im torn between:
Horn of the Ox
Critical Strike
Blades of Steel
Death Blossom
Any help would be great

NinjaGW · Nov 14, 2006, 10:56 PM // 22:56

If you have energy problems with your build, i'd go with critical strike for the energy on the crit.

If you want the most damage, blades of steel is the way to go.

If you want to have more of an interrupting knockdown, horns of the ox is for you, but three KD's is a little excessive, because they are going to overlap.

My Suggestion: Blades of Steel

Saider maul · Nov 14, 2006, 11:09 PM // 23:09

I'd use AoD or you'll get flamed...lol

Yanman.be · Nov 15, 2006, 10:03 AM // 10:03

Saider maul, shovesins are great in RA TA GvG(if played correctly )

I'd go with horns of the ox, the kd's shouldn't overlap, at least when not in IAS. Try it.

AuraofMana · Nov 15, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Dash
Shadow Walk
Mark of Instability
Burst of Aggression
Shove
Falling Spider
Twisted Fang
Rez

~You can replace Dash with Bull's Strike, Dash is here in case you are chasing and can't knockdown due to range issues - Shadow Walk will most likely be in recharge since you SHOULD use it to kill people in the backline.
~You can take out Mar kof Instability and Twisted Fang and use Horns of the Ox and stick in Bull's Strike, which leaves you 3 KD.
~Consider taking a healing skill.

Shove is horrible to use for KD because it really goes against the Assassin playing style, which is to pop in fast, chain combo kill, and pop out fast. Shove disables your attack skills, leaving you vulnerable for seconds and your target free (KD doesn't last that long). I'd say drop Shove and use AOD or Moebius Strike.

The Muffen Man · Nov 16, 2006, 05:22 PM // 17:22

Thanks guys for your replies.
After much though testing and consideration I have decided to use horn of the ox, an extra kd is always welcome I think especially if my chain gets disrupted.

The problem with blades of steel is that it needs to have all my attack skills recharging to be effective and some times if my chain is disrupted, lets say the hex gets removed then I can go shove, falling spider horn of the ox even if horn doesnt kd it will do more dmg I think than blades in that combo

Also shove is very nice on a sin 1st it doesnt disable your attack skills it disables your none attack skills in my build rez will be disabled for 7 sec.
Hopefully others on the team will have rez and use if if its needed.

Yanman.be · Nov 16, 2006, 05:51 PM // 17:51

Have you tried it yet? Does it overlap during IAS?

Destrus The Demonic · Nov 19, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53

I haven't used this build but i find a kd every other attack won't overlap normally but they will when your in an IAS so i think only your first and third kds will work during burst of aggression.

fallot · Nov 19, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saider maul

I'd use AoD or you'll get flamed...lol

Maybe a few months ago, when some skills were good and a lot of others sucked :/

The Muffen Man · Nov 20, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Ok Ive chnaged the build a bit:
A/R
10 beast mastery
13 critical
14 dagger

zealous daggers and other
full + energy armor
health between 450-450 energy between 35-37

Charm Animal
Rampage as one
Mark of Instability
Black Lotus strike
Twisting Fangs
Falling Spider
Horn of the Ox

Energy Isnt a major issue, the same rules apply if my chain gtes busted or the hex removed well blah but thats assasins.
Also If someone uses a hex on the target you can still do black lotus horn of the ox falling spider twisting fangs.
Most people dont attack my pet but if he dies the build still works fine
It takes some practice also to know when to change to zealous to maximise the 4 pip regen, but an assasin thats running faster and attacking at the same time with -7 degen and 2 kds is insane.
I think this ones better than the thumper