Curse

icecoldholyroller · Oct 24, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

Barrage is a commonly used because of its ability to hit 6 enemys at once, plus does extra damage, plus has a low energy cost. When I do use it, the average energy cost is 3. Personally I don't use barrage anymore, I prefer this combo Poison Arrow[E], Kindle Arrows, Dual Shot, Savage Shot. It spkes pretty well in PvE.

Well99 · Oct 24, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by jesh

That's the best way to play Barrage.

Shh don't give it away. Now all the braindead barragers will be curious.

Kids say the darnest things.Let me put this in terms you might understand.
People buy games.People who buy games find chr that like to play.People who buy game play chrs they like and use skills they like.You might try Google.It is a search engine.Look up the word preference.I can get you a link if it is too difficult.

jesh · Oct 25, 2006, 08:45 AM // 08:45

If your preference is to push that 1 button over and over again, then be my guest. I never said you couldn't. I looked up "chr" on google and got Colorado Horse Rescue. I also got Chinook Health Region and Center For Human Reproduction.

Well99 · Oct 25, 2006, 07:30 PM // 19:30

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Originally Posted by jesh

If your preference is to push that 1 button over and over again, then be my guest. I never said you couldn't. I looked up "chr" on google and got Colorado Horse Rescue. I also got Chinook Health Region and Center For Human Reproduction.

Ooh thank you thank you.Yup save Mustangs.Thats it.Boycott horse meat.
Oh well.Nightfall is coming.Time for more fun.

Darkpower Alchemist · Oct 25, 2006, 09:12 PM // 21:12

Barrage rangers have a greater use in the factions parts of the game, due in the most part to the large mobs involved.

Once you get into AB/PvP/GvG situations, that changes drastically.

Trappers have a place, and trapping is useful everywhere a Ranger goes.

I'm not saying you should be exclusively trapping in every misssion, but I am saying take dust trap with you if you're a solid ranger.My opinion on that skill.

Back to Barrage, it is cool in mob situations, but when you are in places where enemies spread out, then I think the Barrage ranger is not needed, but a Punishing/Interupter, or a more specialized ranger imho will excell.

Darkpower Alchemist · Oct 25, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26

Incediary arrows+Savage Shot(when it wares off)+distracting shot, this while FW is up, followed by Needling shots to the dome.

Now that's action!

Well99 · Oct 25, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I like needling also along with poison arrow.It really depends on mission/quest.I always have a interrupt.Distract is what I use also.I always bring that.So many bosses are casters so there always a need.As far as traps with the exception of FOW I dont use.But maybe I should look at trying it more often.There are alot of area's where it will help against warriors swarming party casters.

Skuld · Oct 25, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29

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Originally Posted by Darkpower Alchemist

Incediary arrows+Savage Shot(when it wares off)+distracting shot, this while FW is up, followed by Needling shots to the dome.

Now that's action!

Yeh, remind me not to invite you to my PUG..

GODh · Oct 31, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by wilebill

I went without pet, took a spike trap, couple interrupts, Kindle Arrows. On that trip, Barrage really worked well, because the mobs liked to group together on the hench fighters.

Sometime is wrong here: both Spike trap and Barrage are elites...

squan · Oct 31, 2006, 11:58 AM // 11:58

well when i am online again i gonna try
Conjure Frost
For 60 seconds, if you're wielding a cold weapon, your attacks strike for an additional 1...21 cold damage.

it can be used on Barrage Ranger/Elementalist because it stacks with Barrage and preparations do not.

i did not try it yet because i need a bow with a icy mod on it. maybe nice if you have 5 conjure frost rangers, 1 mm, 1 monk, 1 order necro for a FOW party.

btw winter could help 2, then you wont need a icy mod for your bow.

or Conflagration, since all arrows that hit strike for fire damage
+ conjure flame

jjdefan · Oct 31, 2006, 12:40 PM // 12:40

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Originally Posted by Age

I was trying Barrage out agian as I used it before but wasn't to keen on it but I noticed it cancels out read of the wind and kindle.I saw in close group you can shoot them in multiple of targets sort of like 100 blades.I didn't know it would cancel out RoW and Kindle as well as Apply Poison.What would be the reasoning behind it?

The skill description for Barrage says--Elite Bow Attack. All your Preparations are removed. Shoot arrows at up to 6 foes adjacent to your target. These arrows strike for +1...13 damage if they hit. That is why it cancles kindle, poison, etc.... and as another poster stated, if it didn't cancle out the preps it would be highly over powered. Hitting 6 targets with poison with one shot, that would be sic.

Sophitia Leafblade · Oct 31, 2006, 02:49 PM // 14:49

It may cancel out preps but it doesnt cancel out enchants such as the congures and Judge's insight (which i find work nicely for extra damage

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Rin · Oct 31, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

ummm question,

any of you guys try a burning barrage ranger build with a R/E??

glyph of lesser energy + mark of rogdort and a fiery bow string?

Simply sick.

c_ras · Oct 31, 2006, 04:02 PM // 16:02

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Originally Posted by GODh

Sometime is wrong here: both Spike trap and Barrage are elites...

Possibly he meant Barbed Trap or possibly he capped Barrage and then had two elites on his skillbar.

As far as Barrage goes, I think its one of the more useful ranger elites. At 16 marksmanship, you'll do +17 dmg. That is almost as good as any of the other added damage skills for the ranger but with lower energy and recharge time (especially with high Expertise). Though, it is optimized when you are mobbed, I'll still find myself occasionly using it on a single enemy. There is no greater feeling than using a vampiric bow and using barrage on a mob. Seeing a HUGE chain of damage from one side of the screen to the other and seeing +5 for Health chain across the screen as well...is a great feeling!!! Though Barrage is a pretty useful PvE skill, I believe you should never have it if you are doing any type of PvP....and I do mean NEVER. It's a horrible PvP skill.

With this being said, there are quite a few good builds out there that incorporate Barrage as its focus. Because the ranger is a support character, the ranger isn't the super damage machine (although you can get some really good damage output with certain skill chains or with injunction with class crossing secondary skills), so for the most part don't expect to kill a person with 1 hit or whatever. Take it for what it is and the role of the ranger, and you'll see that Barrage is pretty helpful in a lot of situations and not in others-- just adjust accordingly.

Reikai · Oct 31, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by Rin

ummm question,

any of you guys try a burning barrage ranger build with a R/E??

glyph of lesser energy + mark of rogdort and a fiery bow string?

Simply sick.

yes, until the mobs start to run away.

Personally I run in PvE...
Cripshot (yes cripshot) Its great for spreading poison, as well as a host of other conditions. I sometimes switch out cripshot for other elites however, (for example Poison Arrow + Barbed Arrows)

I also run a slightly modified R Spiker.

Barrage is definitely not an option however.

Fabius Cunctator · Nov 01, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20

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i did not try it yet because i need a bow with a icy mod on it. maybe nice if you have 5 conjure frost rangers, 1 mm, 1 monk, 1 order necro for a FOW party.

If only orders and elemental damage got along well

Blkout · Nov 01, 2006, 11:14 AM // 11:14

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Originally Posted by SnipiousMax

QFT.

What a fantastic arguement in your defense. It's obvious you're clueless by your lack of debatable testimony.

Blkout · Nov 01, 2006, 11:17 AM // 11:17

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Originally Posted by jesh

If your preference is to push that 1 button over and over again, then be my guest. I never said you couldn't. I looked up "chr" on google and got Colorado Horse Rescue. I also got Chinook Health Region and Center For Human Reproduction.

I use Barrage, but guess what, I also carry two interrupts as well, I do far more than press one button, Barrage just happens to be my main damage skill. What's so hard to understand about that?

Blkout · Nov 01, 2006, 11:18 AM // 11:18

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Originally Posted by Reikai

yes, until the mobs start to run away.

Personally I run in PvE...
Cripshot (yes cripshot) Its great for spreading poison, as well as a host of other conditions. I sometimes switch out cripshot for other elites however, (for example Poison Arrow + Barbed Arrows)

I also run a slightly modified R Spiker.

Barrage is definitely not an option however.

Too bad. One of the best Ranger Elite's in the game for PVE and it's not an option for you. Oh well.

roselan · Nov 01, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41

I tested a R/El with barrage, mark of rodgor, fire attenument or something like that (+12 dmg at 8 fire magic). As Mark of Rodgor is now aoe, this is really insane in some pve situation, never saw such mass destruction. beautifull! ^_^