Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru
 
 

Go Back   Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru > The Hall of Knowledge > The Campfire

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Sep 09, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33   #1
Academy Page
 
Shadow Wonder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Advertisement

Disable Ads
Default Why ranger secondary good?

I hear that ranger secondary is a good choice. Why?
Shadow Wonder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 09, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32   #2
Wilds Pathfinder
 
Rancour's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)
Guild: I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)
Profession: W/R
Default

Because Critical Strikes is AWESOME when combine with mass-physical attacks like Barrage...
Rancour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10, 2006, 04:48 AM // 04:48   #3
Lion's Arch Merchant
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Default

also ranger has better defensive skill
pve-er is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10, 2006, 07:41 AM // 07:41   #4
Forge Runner
 
Shuuda's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Guildless
Profession: Me/
Default

Adding tigers Fury to you dagger combo is awsome, try it.
Shuuda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10, 2006, 08:54 AM // 08:54   #5
Furnace Stoker
 
Skuld's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]
Profession: A/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pve-er
also ranger has better defensive skill
Like what? They're all tied to expertise except the wonderous dryder's defenses

It isn't that great. Barrage can be used, but a normal R/ barrager is better, Tiger's Fury can be used but so can Tiger warriors, we can all see how good they are..
Skuld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51   #6
Wilds Pathfinder
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Default

http://www.gwkb.org/cBuild.php?mode=Show&ID=4467
Spura is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 10, 2006, 06:51 PM // 18:51   #7
Banned
 
Yanman.be's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
Default

I support the above build, but I'd use twisting fangs over Death blossom.
Yanman.be is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05   #8
Academy Page
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: White Knights
Profession: A/W
Default

A ranger secondary on your assassin makes it very versatile. You could go part trapper with daggers (very possible, I might add), you have access to nature rituals (some particularly nice ones under Beast Mastery) and then there's Apply Poison (you could use it with Way of the Empty Palm for best results).

Critical Barrager isnt the do all and end all of A/R, there are plenty of good, effective options.
SAPhoenix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2006, 10:58 AM // 10:58   #9
Desert Nomad
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Profession: R/
Default

^^

I gagged when I saw you say that you would use Apply Poison. 25e? Agreed though, the crit barrager just isn't what you want for A/R. If you're gonna be an assassin, be an assassin. If you wanna be a barrager, roll a ranger.

I think the main incentive is really going part Beast Master with a the +energy and +adren BM elite on your bar for a follow-up to Twisting Fangs. I've seen A/R used other ways like AoD-sin with barbed trap as an elite (basically drop a trap at a choke point before you start fighting and it buys your casters an extra 3-10 seconds to pre-kite).

It's really hard to make good use of your assassin's secondary profession so much that it is just as/more powerful than had you used purely assassin skills.
Bloodied Blade is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 11, 2006, 12:35 PM // 12:35   #10
Academy Page
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: White Knights
Profession: A/W
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade
^^

I gagged when I saw you say that you would use Apply Poison. 25e?.
Did you gag when I mentioned Way of the empty Palm too?

Elite Enchantment Spell. For 5...17 seconds, off-hand and dual attacks cost no Energy.

And where does the 25e come in? Apply Poison is 15 e, with Way of the Empty Palm it is an additional 5 energy. That brings it to 20 energy in total, unless you meant using an additional 5 e in the form of a Lead attack. Which I dont. Just straight into Off-hand and Dual. You don't even have to stop there. If you choose to extend, then I can see where the 25+ energy comes in. Plus, a set of Zealous daggers and you're gg.

Way of the Empty Palm is there to pull off some stuff with Off-hand and Dual combos that wouldn't ordinarily be possible (or logical *lol*) under normal circumstances.
SAPhoenix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59   #11
Desert Nomad
 
wilebill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mt Vernon, Ohio
Guild: Band of the Hawk
Profession: W/Mo
Default

Ranger secondary also helps you get into groups when completing the storyline missions. Critical Barrager often gets into mission groups much easier than dagger mode assassin.

I have used ranger secondary a lot, going so far as to catch an Elder Level 20 Crab as a pet. But other secondaries are also very good, or even better just depending on what you are trying to do. Necro has got a lot of good stuff too, and monk, and mesmer, and etc.
wilebill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sep 13, 2006, 01:31 PM // 13:31   #12
Forge Runner
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Thornill, ON, Canada
Guild: THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)
Profession: W/R
Default

Don't forget, you can also use antidote signet to remove poison, disease and the dreaded blindness.
Pick Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This Forum!  
 
 
           

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:56 PM // 22:56.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
jQuery(document).ready(checkAds()); function checkAds(){if (document.getElementById('adsense')!=undefined){document.write("_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'Adblock', 'Unblocked', 'false',,true]);");}else{document.write("