Curse

Tainek · Aug 27, 2006, 08:44 AM // 08:44

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Originally Posted by Skuld

How does taking dmg make you bad? Just because you aren't in front doesn't mean you will always be unscathed Oo

taking damage doesnt mark on yoru skill, but if your are below 50% health, You Should Not be Attacking anymore, as there is an Imminent Risk of death

And wilebill , if you are in that situation, you flee from battle, and return at full health, else your are just wasting time kamakazi

Fluffyx · Aug 28, 2006, 02:04 AM // 02:04

I actually dislike vampiric very much on anything but a bow.
Though I do keep a vampiric dagger handy.
Heres what I carry.

1. 15^50 33%bleeding +30hp
2. 15^50 zealous +30hp
3. 15^50 vamp +30 hp

I tend to stay away from vamp items especially on my sin. If you're hitting something long enough for vamp to actually outdamage another mod in PvE you're going to die. What do you think is what gave assassins their bad rep. in the first place. Spike and keep it moving. :]

Slashing > Piercing in most cases.

TaiClaw · Aug 28, 2006, 03:30 AM // 03:30

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Originally Posted by Fluffyx

I actually dislike vampiric very much on anything but a bow.
Though I do keep a vampiric dagger handy.
Heres what I carry.

1. 15^50 33%bleeding +30hp
2. 15^50 zealous +30hp
3. 15^50 vamp +30 hp

I tend to stay away from vamp items especially on my sin. If you're hitting something long enough for vamp to actually outdamage another mod in PvE you're going to die. What do you think is what gave assassins their bad rep. in the first place. Spike and keep it moving. :]

Slashing > Piercing in most cases.

2 words, Shiro's Blades.

At first I thought these work crap, like zomg req 15, but now i've seen the light. Putting 15 in DM boosts your damage by an insane amount. If you can build up a Dagger Mastery combo, you drop things so quickly.

I can crit Death Blossom on 4 targets for 80+ , and I auto attack targets for 30+ (Having 15+ in DM gives you 2 hits per swing).

I have changed by build now to Impale/Ironpalm/FS/TF then Palm Strike + Death Blossom. My best hit with Death Blossom was 80 + 40 (Dual attack + Extra Attack) and there no doubt in my mind that I could double crit 80/80.

Perfect Scenario, Palm Strike for 50, Deathblossom for 80, then 80. whats that 210 in 2 Seconds? I've gone hypocritical now, I said that survivability in pvp is more important, but now i've seen what sort of damage I can dish out. So my surviviblity is kept at a minimum, and I charge in (full Nightstalker armour) and unleash.

Whether or not I survive is another story, tho atleast I know whatever my target was, is dead.

/end rant.

Buy Shiro's Blades, they cost about 10k now. There awesome.

tuperwho · Aug 28, 2006, 03:44 AM // 03:44

IMO, there's only one legit way to mod any melee weapon or bow: vampiric ___ of defense. Then you carry anything to switch out between battles, or use a simple self heal occasionally.

Yanman.be · Aug 28, 2006, 08:30 AM // 08:30

Tuperwho, Fortitude is waaaaaaaaay better. ( flame me )

tuperwho · Aug 29, 2006, 01:14 AM // 01:14

I respectfully disagree.

Yanman.be · Aug 29, 2006, 08:25 AM // 08:25

Most damage in PvP is armour ignoring: defense is useless.

narud · Aug 29, 2006, 03:21 PM // 15:21

sundering is not that great, but i would never say vamp is either. My assasin has 12 totally different daggers, he switches daggers before he uses a skill. Ive perfected doing this, cast palmstrike, horns of the ox, switch to poison dags, FS, switching to bleeding, TFT. T do that you gotta be fast so you dont waste time, of course if im too lazy to do the switching, i use zealous because my combo takes 30 energy. When combo is done run away, since i went for the caster, the caster is dead or dying, and in things like fort aspenwood where monks are VERY rare, that target cant save themselves. Ive seen someone with 1/4 of their hp left and dye from my bleeding(funny as hell).

*cough* use fortitude instead of defense, in pve use defense *cough*

RemusShepherd · Aug 29, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26

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Originally Posted by TaiClaw

Perfect Scenario, Palm Strike for 50, Deathblossom for 80, then 80. whats that 210 in 2 Seconds?

Um....I have maxed Critical Hits instead of Dagger Mastery. I Palm Strike for 80, then get dual Twisting Fangs hits for 30+ each, plus Deep Wound. I think that's better than your combo...and it's only two skills on my attack chain.

I use a Cruel dagger tang (lengthens Deep Wound). Haven't found a good Zealous or Vampiric yet.

TaiClaw · Aug 29, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43

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Originally Posted by RemusShepherd

Um....I have maxed Critical Hits instead of Dagger Mastery. I Palm Strike for 80, then get dual Twisting Fangs hits for 30+ each, plus Deep Wound. I think that's better than your combo...and it's only two skills on my attack chain.

I use a Cruel dagger tang (lengthens Deep Wound). Haven't found a good Zealous or Vampiric yet.

Yeah, my entire Combo is *in this order* Way of the Lotus/Iron Palm/Falling Spider/Twisint Fangs/Palm Strike/Death Blossom.

There is no downtime thanks to way of the lotus. Meaning right after I lay down twising fangs, I can Palm Strike and Death Blossom straight after.

p.s My Twising Fangs hit for 30+ aswell, because I deal more damage with daggers, and I go extra attacks ontop of attacks.

So I have all those conditions aswell.

RemusShepherd · Aug 30, 2006, 02:24 PM // 14:24

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Originally Posted by TaiClaw

Yeah, my entire Combo is *in this order* Way of the Lotus/Iron Palm/Falling Spider/Twisint Fangs/Palm Strike/Death Blossom.

So I have all those conditions aswell.

Yeah, and you're putting the Deep Wound on first, which is probably more effective.

I just can't see myself, in PvE, putting 6 attack skills in the skill bar. Need more versatility than that. The longest combo I've ever used in PvE was four attack skills...most things die to that anyway.