Curse

Pandora Gaia Orphea · Aug 29, 2006, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Here's my build (has worked well in every situation I've been in so far):

Healing Breeze
Vigorous Spirit
Word of Healing {E}
Orison of Healing
Heal Party
Heal Other
Inspired Hex/Signet of Capture
Rebirth

Healing Prayers: 12+1+1
Divine Favor: 9+1
Inspiration Magic: 9

I use full ascetic's armour along with a collector's Healing Ankh (HCT 20% HSR 20% on healing skills) and Totem Axe.

Reverend Jekyll · Aug 30, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

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Originally Posted by Radiant Mend

I disagree with everyone who says Healing Breeze isn't worth using. You can cast it on the tank when he's pulling and by the time he's back with mobs, you've regenned your energy back and he's stayed full health. You can also continually cast it on your minion master. Using single heals to keep him full health is sporadic, making him have to wait to see whether the monk is going to hit him again before he can recast his pet heals. With breeze, he knows he can cast his pet heals (sacrificing his own health) several times during each Breeze...and he knows exactly how quickly he'll be back to full health so he can regularly recast pet heals. You also can use Breeze to offset hex/condition degen or someone taking damage while you focus on healing other people. It's a basic "hit that one person once and forget about him" for 8 secs.

The problem with HB is that it's inefficient compared to your alternatives. In almost every situation Mend Condition/Remove Hex and Orison will outheal HB for the same energy cost. You would be better off ignoring the degen'd person for 8 seconds and hitting them with a WoH (or heal other).

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Protection Spirit is vital...When someone is taking spike damage, with Protection skills only up a few points, you get 10 seconds of damage limited to 10% of health. What that means is you can easily keep healing that person while PS is up either with single heals or throw on a Breeze and forget about that person. PS+Breeze= increased health for 8 seconds, regardless of the damage the mobs are putting out. PS>any other heals if someone is taking heavy damage.

My problem with this is that I run 16 Healing, 15 DF. I just don't have the points to spend in Protection, I leave that to the other monk (if present). Situationally, Prot Spirit and HB are very effective, but in a pure healing build they are unnecessary. By the time I get those two spells cast on the spiked target I could easily have healed them to full with WoH and Heal Other.

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I've also migrated to Purge Conditions over Mend Conditions or Mend Ailment. I've gotten tired of casting a cure condition, only to see that more conditions were below that one and then I have to later cast another cure or another heal due to degen. I prefer knowing PC will cure the person entirely and my Divine Favor heal bonus usually is enough to top off the person's health, without need for the heal component of Mend Conditions or Ailment.

I don't have experience using Purge, I'll have to check it out.

My heal bar has been fairly consistent for the last 6 months.

Dwayna's kiss
Heal Other
WoH
Orison
Healing Touch
Mend Ailment/Remove Hex
Rebirth
Ressurect/Cap Sig

Healing Prayers: 12 + 3 + 1
Divine Favor: 12 + 2
Prot: Rest + 1

K U J A · Aug 31, 2006, 02:57 AM // 02:57

Guess what? HEALING BREEZE SUCKS!!!!!!

Now, people are correct about not using Heal Other with Woh, its kind of overkill on energy. Obviously u need condition and hex removals, 2 or 3 direct heals, maybe a heal party, and either a e-management skill or a prot spirit ( though this only comes in handy against enemies over lvl 26). I never bring a res with me, because an extra heal or prot can prevent those deaths.

Did i mention HEALING BREEZE SUCKS!!!!!!! !!! !!!!! !! !! !!! !!! !

audioaxes · Aug 31, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04

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Originally Posted by DC_Ross_Dark

Tombs WoH:

-WoH
-Party
-Seed
-Orison
-Kiss
-Veil
-Inspired Hex
-Channeling

12+1+3 Healing
9+1 Divine
9 Inspiration.

^^^agreed

if its pve i kinda like vig spirit spam with heal light/kiss compared to heal other
prolly something like this:
16 heal
- rest att up to what you bring

vig spirit
heal light
kiss
party
breeze
rebirth
-open-
-open-

K U J A · Aug 31, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Healing Breeze Sucks

Tainek · Sep 02, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03

Lets say your healing with divine favor for 41 hp (not unusual) and you cast healing breeze

41+ 180 (Maxxed out)= 221 Hp for 10E

Vs Orison *2

41 +41 +73 +73= 228

so Orison basically the same amount of healing per point of energy spent, but wait, there is more

If your target reaches full health, whoop, wasted energy, so your Healing breeze has lost x% effectivenes, where orisons you can apply as needed (one or two pops)

However there is even more, A mesmer uses shatter enchant, doing 100 Damage, if this is done just after you cast it, you might only heal 60 health, and they will take 100 Damage (loss of 40 overall)

So now your target has lost 40 health, your 10 energy down

If you throw Healing wisper into the equasion, Healing breeze just goes out of the door

Healing breeze is trash, and anyone who says different doesnt have a clue what they are talking about

Asrial · Sep 03, 2006, 05:01 AM // 05:01

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Originally Posted by Tainek

Healing breeze is trash, and anyone who says different doesnt have a clue what they are talking about

Funny thing is, you can still be a great healer with it

combatchuck · Sep 03, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32

My build is:

Healing 12 +3 +1
Divine 12 +3
prot 3

Dwayna's Kiss
Healing Whisper
Word of Healing {e}
Orison of Healing
Heal Party
Healing Touch (self heal)
Divine Spirit
Rebirth

I use Divine Spirit when people aggro a big mob, never run out of energy.

K U J A · Sep 03, 2006, 02:39 PM // 14:39

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Originally Posted by Asrial

Funny thing is, you can still be a great healer with it

No u cant, if you use it, you FAIL AT LIFE.

Tainek · Sep 03, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by Asrial

Funny thing is, you can still be a great healer with it

Take it into pvp ,and you might as well drop your trousers and bend over

you can do Medeocre healing, not great

Thomas.knbk · Sep 03, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by Asrial

Funny thing is, you can still be a great healer with it

In PvE you can, but you can be a W/E with meteor shower and still do 'great' dmg in PvE.

Asrial · Sep 04, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

The problem with these kinds of threads is they all degenerate into elite builds only.

The nice thing about Guild Wars is that nearly any build can be successful, both in PvE and PvP.

Sorry, but...

We might as well end any arguement and just say "if you're not BL/Boon, you suck as a monk".

The player makes the healer great, not the skills used.

..and with that, another thread passes off my radar. Started with good info then degenerated into another "here's why you suck if you like skill X" debate.

Age · Sep 04, 2006, 04:14 AM // 04:14

^rofl

K U J A · Sep 04, 2006, 06:45 AM // 06:45

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Originally Posted by Asrial

The player makes the healer great, not the skills used.

Go ahead and make a monk without any skills, or with skills like healing breeze and mending, let's see how for you get. First come the skill sets, the the player skill.

XvArchonvX · Sep 04, 2006, 02:43 PM // 14:43

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Originally Posted by Strato

Come someone shed a little light about the Word Of Healing build for the Monk. I couldnt find the build list on Guild Wiki for some unknown reason.
Thanks!

I was lookin for the build yesterday and it took me a bit of searchin, but here they are:

Mo/Me PvE WoH Monk

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mo/Me_PvE_WoH_Monk

Mo/Me Word Monk

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mo/Me_Word_Monk

Age · Sep 04, 2006, 07:06 PM // 19:06

I wouldn't want to use the secound one without Balance Stance.It maybe ok useing distortion but I would prefer balance stance.

Lourens · Sep 04, 2006, 07:07 PM // 19:07

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Originally Posted by combatchuck

My build is:

Healing 12 +3 +1
Divine 12 +3
prot 3

Dwayna's Kiss
Healing Whisper
Word of Healing {e}
Orison of Healing
Heal Party
Healing Touch (self heal)
Divine Spirit
Rebirth

I use Divine Spirit when people aggro a big mob, never run out of energy.

Why using Dwayna's Kiss -_-" u only cast an enchantment on urself ;P, Oops forgot it also works with hexes srry ><

Lourens · Sep 04, 2006, 07:10 PM // 19:10

My build (WoH) :
Equipment:
+5 E 20% Weapon
+5 Armor vs Physical +1 Prot 20% Offhand

WoH
Dwayna's Kiss
RoF
Prot Spirit
Vig Spirit
Healing Touch (Self heal

)
Mend Ailment
Rebirth

Healing Prayers: 16
Prot Prayers: 10
Divine Favor: 10

BrotherGilburt · Sep 04, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by Lourens

My build (WoH) :
Equipment:
+5 E 20% Weapon
+5 Armor vs Physical +1 Prot 20% Offhand

WoH
Dwayna's Kiss
RoF
Prot Spirit
Vig Spirit
Healing Touch (Self heal )
Mend Ailment
Rebirth

Healing Prayers: 16
Prot Prayers: 10
Divine Favor: 10

I personally don't think you should mix protection and healing. Be all heal and then have your groups second monk go protection and with mend ailment, reversal of fortune. I don't think you even need prot spirit most of the time.

Brother Gilburt