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joncoish · Sep 04, 2006, 12:45 PM // 12:45

I love farming with my elementalist, and I have a really nice build which works against basically any melee monsters. So I wanted to try out the troll cave outside Droks, because I've heard it's really effective. Anyway, I've finally found where the cave is and how to get in there, but my question is, how do you get past all the stupid aviacara (sp?) mobs? Whenever I enter the area there seems to be at least 5 blocking the way to the troll cave, and if I tried to take them on, they kill me. I don't really get it!

White_Chaos · Sep 04, 2006, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Speed Ench, Modilife build so you can kill Tengu aswell or hope they wont spawn infront of the cave

joncoish · Sep 04, 2006, 02:30 PM // 14:30

Do you have a link?

Jiao Yang · Sep 04, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17

You just have to run past the avicara.. it's simple. They're hardly 'blocking' your way.

joncoish · Sep 05, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

Uhhh yes they are. Why would you even reply with such a stupid post?

dantheman5415 · Sep 05, 2006, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by joncoish

Uhhh yes they are. Why would you even reply with such a stupid post?

Because he speaks the truth. Just run past the avicara....no speed boost is needed at all.

(I did about 15 runs a little while ago, so don't say I haven't tried it or done it recently)

ubermancer · Sep 05, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

I have two pet rabbits.

Yanman.be · Sep 05, 2006, 06:14 AM // 06:14

I have a cat and that cat has a son.

Cyprus · Sep 05, 2006, 06:21 AM // 06:21

...The Avicara don't block your way....They don't line up for the sole purpose of ruining your troll farming runs. Take a screenshot or something and show us otherwise.

ubermancer · Sep 05, 2006, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

I have a cat and that cat has a son.

My avatar is a picture of my first rabbit. His name is Monty. Amongst other animals, he eats cats.

Karalin Taucher · Sep 05, 2006, 09:19 AM // 09:19

If you're not used to the idea of running past mobs, it can seem a bit silly... so here's a few words of advice...

1. Wait. Watch where the mobs move, when there's the largeest gap available, run through it.
2. Enchant. Apply any protective enchantments or stances that will help negate damage. This will depend on your farming build as what is available to you. Check the duration of your enchantments and apply the longest lasting ones first!
3. Run. Use the keyboard so you can strafe to help avoid aggroing any avicara. Dependng on the spawn, sticking to the left hand edge can be a good route. Sometimes it's easier to go wider to the right, through a gap between two groups.
4. Keep running. Don't stop to fight, even if you're taking hits. A few ignited dual shots might hurt, but you'll be able to outlast them. Eventually, the avicara will stop chasing you.
5. Stop. Once you get to a safe place and the avicara have stopped following you (they will!), heal up, or regen. You should be right by the troll cave. Let your skills recharge before you engage!

Good luck, and have fun!

Elsydian · Sep 05, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

try using this skillset. The speed ench isn't required, but neither is replacing it with more damage. And with it you can (almost) always get past a spawn in front of the cave.

Flare
Inferno
Flame Burst
Meteor Shower
Armor of Mist
Fire Attunement
Arcane Echo
Mist Form

Hengis · Sep 05, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Having done many many troll farming runs, I can offer you this advice.

In five runs you will get something like the following:

One or two runs where it is easy to get to the cave.
One or two runs where you have to watch and wait for gaps to develope.
One run where the avicara spawn so high up the pass leading to the cave that you may as well respawn the level.

Just do the run a dozen times and watch and learn the spawns. There are only three or four major spawn patterns, with some minor variation in movement, but once you get to learn recognise them you should be able to get to the cave four times out of five.

Good luck :-)

Carinae · Sep 05, 2006, 04:03 PM // 16:03

Hengis' advice is correct. ^^

Those Avicara can be a major pain in the ass, for Spirit Bonders. Especially N/Mo.

Can't go through 'em.
Can't go over 'em.
Gotta go around 'em.

SirShadowrunner · Sep 05, 2006, 05:17 PM // 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

Hengis' advice is correct. ^^

Those Avicara can be a major pain in the ass, for Spirit Bonders. Especially N/Mo.

Can't go through 'em.
Can't go over 'em.
Gotta go around 'em.

Here is a trick I use on the Avicara with my SB monk, just aggro a few trolls
and then run into the avicara, works 95% of the time, but the Avicara by
themselves is sure death.

-SirShadowrunner

jinkas · Sep 05, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood

Hengis' advice is correct. ^^

Those Avicara can be a major pain in the ass, for Spirit Bonders. Especially N/Mo.

Can't go through 'em.
Can't go over 'em.
Gotta go around 'em.

Avicara will be a pain for anything but primary monks. However, if you do happen to be a monk primary, then just go Mo/Me and take Elemental Resistance (with 0 points in Inspiration). You will have no more problems from the Avicara (except possibly for their interrupts).

ForgeWhelp · Sep 05, 2006, 09:21 PM // 21:21

EDIT: nevermind, timing and luck are your best friend with the running thing....

Why_Me · Sep 05, 2006, 11:00 PM // 23:00

Since you're an ele, just use a geomancer build, and as long as you time the interrupt, you should have no problem killing the avicara at all.

skreet preacha · Sep 05, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

if u can kill trolls, u can kill avicara. both are only "melee" attacks, with avicara having a few warriors and rangers, instead of just warriors. i dunno about ele, but i simply use same tactics on avicara as i use on the trolls with my wammo. i usually only kill them if i'm powerleveling someone for a survivor title, otherwise i usually sprint past them if on my own.