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TheMadKingGeorge · Sep 18, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17

you can probally 605 TOPK

english storm · Sep 18, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

jesus 170k a day???? i have never had 170k in all my guild war life lol I got to make me a monk/warrior and get down there am fed up being broke all the time....

Annoy Mous · Sep 18, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18

No offense man, but they are prbly putting in 12+ hours over 3 characters to make that 170k, w/out doing anything except for farming...not my idea of a good time.

FeroxC · Sep 19, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50

I doubt they are bots, the program would be way too difficult to write it would have to hook all the game events e.g. spawn coordinates monster states etc to perform the complex actions required to kill the FoW monsters.

Bots in places like droks are possible because the route to the trolls is always the same and the resistance on the way to the troll cave is pretty low.

Killing the trolls is also incredibly easy, Cast Live vicariously, cyclone, bonnetis, cyclone till they are all dead.

You could do the troll killing part with a simple keyboard macro.

Without detailed knowledge of the internal game mechanics a bot for FoW wont be written.

If however a bot is written the economy will be destroyed the profits from a FoW bot will be 1000% more than farming trolls with anti farming code on.

I expect that they are actually chinese farmers.

AuraofMana · Sep 19, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20

Thanks guys for making other Chinese people have a warm feeling inside. Seriously, the all Chinese people do is farm, sucks at English, and doesn't do anything else is so stereotypical. It's like my going around telling people how American people are lazy and fat or all Germans are automatically Nazis. Look around your school and check who has the best grades over all and who got the top scores on SAT. I am Chinese and I farm quite a bit, but I don't enjoy it because it is freaking boring. I farm to buy better armors and equipments to PVE and PVP. I have a lot of friends and I can honestly tell you, half of the Asians I know don't even touch video games. Heck, several of my Korean friends die on Starcraft with cheats on.
And you shouldn't even go around making fun of farmers. Heck, they are trading you electronic money for real money. I wonder who's the bigger nerd and loser here.

vlein · Sep 19, 2006, 03:26 AM // 03:26

i had a mo/w partner once, and all she did after pulling 1 group of aataxes was stand there and recast all her buffs... she wouldnt move.. i think she was a bot

bobert_monduvia · Sep 19, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39

They are most likely running chests. This would probably be much easier to make a program for, and much quicker.

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Originally Posted by TheMadKingGeorge

you can probally 605 TOPK

Spirit bond requires monk as either primary or secondary and the stance "Fingers" of Chaos" removes enchantments from monks (primaries and secondaries alike) so all your enchants would get reomoved.

Mr Crapsicle · Sep 19, 2006, 08:08 AM // 08:08

I was pretty sure what you meant there Bloodied, but read literally one might think you were saying that you/your bots have not been able to solo all of FoW but they can solo parts of it when you say we. Reference his use of quotation marks Avarre for what is or isn't being attributed to the speaker and the OP. Regardless, I was mostly having fun with the idea of it. I got the sense of what you were saying but I'm pretty certain that the Elona series of bots has been banned. More likely, those owners have purchased new accounts and are botting elsewhere. Altruum ruins among others comes to mind. I just hate to think that FoW could be one of those places.

I would never throw the bot card down without observing behaviors first. I guess there is a site or two that might have code posted, who knows. I do know that it looks like typical bot behavior but to be fair, I need to watch more closely. Other than the potential reduction in drops from the increase in farming whatever it is the supposed bots are farming, we'll all know when we see them stacking from running the same pathing... or maybe they will enter a zone and say "hello" and "I love you" before jumping and entering a zone.

chronozon · Sep 19, 2006, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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Originally Posted by Amity and Truth

Three key "words"

Smiting
605
Skeletal Army

Off topic a bit here that is not quite true, one doesn't need to have more than 600 life to use the Protective Spirit/Spirit Bond combo. Last time I checked if you have Protective Spirit on, Spirit Bond considers the damage done to a player BEFORE Protective Spirit limits it to 10% of your max health. So let's say you have 500 health and you get damage from one foe by 100 hp, the actual damage you'll see yourself taking on the screen is "-50", but it will still trigger Spirit Bond's healing property since the ORIGINAL damage you were supposed to receive was -100. This is the reason why the Spirit Bond build would still work even if the player's health is lowered to below 600 due to death penalities or with the condition Deep Wound. The reason people use Vital Blessing for this build is not to ensure Spirit Bond gets triggered, but rather as insurance in case either Protective Spirit or Spirit Bond get interrupted they'll have enough health to survive a couple hits until they get recharged, and that is where the Spirit Bond build is better than the 55 build.

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Originally Posted by Tommy

they are real players who can't speak, and they are not intelligent enough to do anything other than farming the way their managers trained them.

I resent that, since they get paid for doing that and they are told to do it, it has nothing to do with their intelligence, you have no rights to call them being less intelligent. Rather or not the fact they get paid squat for this is irrelavent, but if there are so many people willingly working for "offices" like that then it means either they are making more money than what they could've be making otherwise or it's just an easier job for them, a job that one can do sitting in a air conditioned room.

cerb · Sep 19, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40

lol tommy that's the funniest troll ive read in a while

chinese ppl have kids which they bred for their skills in GW

Tommy · Sep 20, 2006, 06:47 AM // 06:47

omg, almost all the chinese people i met in school are gaming nerds.. yeah, they do have top score, but they spend way more time than american to archieve them... btw, i like chinese people,they dont bother nobody, i just hope that people dont ruin their living. there is really no reason to hate chinese farmers, they all sell items at low price<look at the auction house in wow and chinese sellers in LA> they sell itmes under market price, we got good deal from them all the time. the cons from us already led to the nerfs of griffon and trolls, lets complain no more

! 170k isn't that hard to farm with 3 chars, you can get alteast 10 ecto if you farm 10 hours, and 40k from trolls, mino probably more. they farm gold, sell it to people who really doesn't have time to farm in game, it hurts nobody... you dont have to buy the fancy gold itmes in GW, you can get collector's itsm and green times, just as good as millions+ gold itmes. it bothers nobody.
anyway, keep up the good work our fellow chinese farmer! we might get 1 million gw gold for 99 cents!

Mr Crapsicle · Sep 20, 2006, 07:47 AM // 07:47

Tommy, you are dialed in my friend. Really dialed in.

Amity and Truth · Sep 20, 2006, 10:52 AM // 10:52

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Originally Posted by chronozon

...Post...

While it is true that the 605 Build is sometimes more effective on lower Health levels, that doesn't change the fact that it is commonly known as the 605 Build, even if it uses less hp.

chronozon · Sep 20, 2006, 02:20 PM // 14:20

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Originally Posted by Amity and Truth

While it is true that the 605 Build is sometimes more effective on lower Health levels, that doesn't change the fact that it is commonly known as the 605 Build, even if it uses less hp.

I know what you are saying, just pointing out the common misconception. And it's not that the "605" build is more effective on the lower health levels, I just think it's more forgiving than the "55" build, more life = more chance of surviving, the "605" build can have one of its spells interrupted, take a couple of hits until the spell recharges and recast on itself, where the "55" would've been dead meat if it got its Protective Spirit interrupted.

osk · Sep 20, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45

IMO higher HP is just to facilitate Holy Wrath & Retribution for higher dmg (if there's a smite monk behind)

Other than that, whatever Hp u have, Sb+Ps will keep u alive.

lundis · Sep 20, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

lol i never imagined that it was chinese guys farming 24/7 lol...
but how are they farming with 3 characters at the same time??????

lundis · Sep 20, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

lol i never imagined that it was chinese guys farming 24/7 lol...
but how are they farming with 3 characters at the same time??????

SirShadowrunner · Sep 25, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

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Originally Posted by Tommy

*office* has over 7000 *operators* farming in GW.These operators are *require* to give him 170k per day.

Let's see now, 7000 x 170,000 = 1,190,000,000

That's over a billion gold every day, *cough*, just where is all this gold
going to ?? I have never bought gold and don't know anybody who has, it is
against the rules and ppl have had there accounts closed for it from what
I have read on these forums, this just seems like a huge pile of gold.

-SirShadowrunner

Insuscient Ranger · Sep 25, 2006, 06:26 PM // 18:26

I can easly get 170k a day from Soloing FoW If i wanted to with a ranger (kinda slow) or a 55 necro. Each run i get a few shards-rare drops- keys + more

So i can see this happening

Ajantis · Sep 26, 2006, 10:13 AM // 10:13

shards are worth 3-4k, rare drops don't always reach 100+ and you don't find them each time you go on a fow farm trip.. keys, meh :/

It's possible to get 170k a day farming fow, IF you get lucky with a rare drop.. Unless you have a build that can get 50 shards a day, please share..

As for the bots soloing it.. you can kill over half of the shadow army and skeleton army using a 55 monk. The run is very tough with all the mesmer mobs though, don't think you can program a bot to pull it off..