Originally Posted by Cygnus_Zero

I'm not a big fan of Life Transfer. That skill has a 30 second recharge.

Originally Posted by Spura

Are you two on crack? This is a horrible build.

Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane

Since the max degen is ten,you're wasting a few skill slots it seems..

Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake

I STRONGLY disagree because mesmers would be a horrible choice for this build. he could buff up his fast casting so wat it doesnt matter how fast you cast, its fast enough as it is. and without the advantage of necro runes since most of it "is" necro spells, plus when u need energy, soul reaping helps more in that cast than fast casting. you NEVER EVER pick mesmers cuz they cast fast, that's a horrible idea. think strength, not speed. and that speed wont increase much if u dont even have fast casting up to 10 AT LEAST.

Updated attributes:
Blood: 12+scar blood+superior rune=16
Curses: 8+major rune=10
Illusion: 9
Soul Reaping: whatever is left+minor rune

Updated Skillbar:
1.)Life Transfer {E}
2.)Conjure Phantasm
3.)Faintheartedness
4.)Barbed Signet
5.)Rez Signet
6.)Awaken the Blood (cast first before battle)
7.)Parasitic Bond
8.)Soul Barbs

Armor: Tormentors, all of it
Weapon: Curses Staff with 2 +30 health parts

Originally Posted by holden

life transfer. for 11 seconds foe suffers health degen of 7 while you gain this as health. it cost 10 energy, takes 2 freakin seconds to cast and you wont get this back for 30 seconds.

this whole build rests on this one pieceofchit elite. healing breeze heals for 8 for 10 seconds.

am I the only one that sees a problem with this shity elite? 30 seconds for a recharge?!?! thats just stupid. not to mention when you get interrupted, cause with a 2 second cast you will, you'll still have to wait 30 seconds to get it back.

then you fall back on conjure. you got 9 in illusion JUST for conjure. again, healing breeze.

barbed sig-Sacrifice 8% maximum health. You steal 18-52 health from target foe.....52 health? thats worth a spot on your roster? a 20 second recharge?

faintheartedness isn't a bad skill but it cost 10 and only hits one foe. the 25 seconds of weakness wont keep that warrior from killing you. the degen is worthless with this spell.

soul barbs will dmg for about 25 with each hex. you have 4 hex's to cast so maybe you'll put an extra 100 dmg on a foe. but it will take you 5 spells to get there........ and 100dmg aint shite

parasitic bond is a good cover hex. it's cheap, you can spam it, you get a little heal from it.

every skill but res sig and barbed sig cost 10 energy. with soulreaping so low you have no way to get energy back. you'll cast awaken, soul barbs, life transfer, faintheartedness and be down 40. you gonna start spamming p bond after that?

i know, i know.....you want to stack degen and really keep the life falling. but it tops off at 10 degen. remove the hex. don't remove the hex. who cares. as a monk i'll heal right through it. put 10 degen on everyone on the team and the monk will heal through it.

i dont know if you guys are on crack or not but that is a horrible build. it's good against noob players that don't understand the very basics of the game.

res sig is nice.

Originally Posted by sartori

1) Life X-fer: 16 blood give +/-8 for 13 seconds...thats 208 dmg/heal...a total of 416 health being manipulated. if you think this is a 'piece' elite, you havent really played around with it enough. as for being interrupted, anything with a casting time with 1 or more seconds is interrupt bait is someone is watching you...would you then argue that all elites that take 1+ seconds are crap? also, regardless of whether they have a monk who heals this much, he still has to take the time to do so and you still get the health from it. saying "a monk can just heal that" like you just did is also an argument against swinging an axe at someone...a heal other can negate many axe hits

2) Conjure Phantasm: -5 degen...you say "again, breeze". they now have, with just those 2 spells, a -13 degen total. breeze is starting to fall short...

3) Barbed Sig: my guess for this is energy management of some sort...its the only reason i can see to use it over vampiric gaze. the sig is free, you damage your opponent for about 60 while only gaining 20-30 health *shrug* ill try this build tonight but it seems liek a gaze would be a better option...

4) Faintheartedness: the 25 seconds of weakness combined with a -3 degen (bumping that warrior you are worried abouts total to -16 and thus almost completely ignoring the monks breeze) will hold him off long enough for you to kill him. dont forget, you are gaining life from life transfer at a rate of 16 health/tick. most weakened warriors do less damage than that...

5) Soul Barbs: it lasts 30 seconds...long enough to cast quite a few more than 4 hexes on your target. it also has the benefit of doing its damage no matter who is casting the hexes so your allies can help if they choose.

6) Parasitic Bond: -1 degen making the total -17 and heals you for about 120 health in 20 seconds. by itself only slightly useful but i can see it helping in this build...

the thing that i think youre missing is that degen caps at -10 as far as the damage it can do...you can still have -17 degen on you, it just means that the first +7 pips of regen you get do nothing. a -17 degen means you are pretty much without fail losing 20 health/tick no matter what you do. sure a monk can help out (and most likely this would be on him first) but this isnt meant to kill a monk solo....its meant to stack on so much damage along with an assist chain so that no monk can heal through it. imagine having a -10 degen, taking 20-25 for every hex thrown on you, and then having a ranger or warrior beating on you at the same time.

i can see that this build would be pretty devastating if used properly...i am curious tho, did you actually try it yet? maybe you should....its getting rave reviews

Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake

thank you, you are seriously one of teh few intelligent reviewers

holden, i bet you havent even tried the build. just do it and see for yourself. its an assist build, its not meant to take someone out all by yourself, unless their monk is dead, then you possible could.

the other day i was running a healing build, a mo/rt and i had breeze and word of healing, etc; and someone actually used this EXACT build spell for spell against me. i had a very hard time managing a warrior and a bunch of hexes on me. soul barbs did 20 dmg per hex, degen was massive, and in the end he kept spamming parasitic bond for the dmg for soul barbs and completely owned me. and when people tried to attack him, life transfer and barbed signet made sure he didnt go down without a fight. this is probably (not to brag) one of the best degen builds out there, when i use it i go on streaks in the CA of more than 10 wins at least if you got another offensive ally with you. if you degen your teams target, you'd be suprised.

Originally Posted by Symbol

Why should I try it? There are tons and tons of necros running around in CAs that stack degen with life transfer and they're not very effective. Why is this build any different?

Originally Posted by sartori

my only issue was energy. i ran out often and found myself waiting to be able to get a solid combo off. i dont see a way around that tho since life transfer really is the killer and most ebergy management skills are elites :\ maybe finding a way to up the soul reaping attribute would be a good idea....

Originally Posted by Symbol

Lol, I see how this works. If I try it and don't like it, you'll just say "U weren't playing it right, you n00b". Nice try, but I'm not biting. You can get some other sucker to waste their time on it.