Curse

olly123 · Sep 14, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34

i no i dont normaly post here but i love my monk and i was wondering

From to days update

Monk

* Balthazar's Aura: decreased duration to 8 seconds.
* Bane Signet: decreased recharge time to 20 seconds.
* Banish: this skill now does double damage vs. summoned creatures.
* Divine Boon: increased recharge time to 10 seconds, decreased amount healed to 15..60.
* Extinguish: increased cast time to 1 second, increased recharge time to 12 seconds.
* Purge Signet: decreased cast time to 2 seconds.
* Signet of Judgment: decreased recharge time to 20 seconds.
* Zealot's Fire: increased recharge time to 45 seconds.

The only one im looking at is the Divine boon. i cant rememeber how much thay have droped the heal but is this the end of boons?

i personly dont think so its jsut thay wont b so good but i recon thay will make a come back

i need your views please ( also sorry for the typos i have dyslexia and cant spel for toffie)

funbun · Sep 14, 2006, 05:49 PM // 17:49

I don't know. We'll to wait and see. I plan to make a boon killing PvP mesmer to take advantage of the changes.

Pick Me · Sep 14, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

It's not the end of boons.

Its more so people stop abusing it because of CoP I think.

funbun · Sep 14, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

It's not the end of boons.

Its more so people stop abusing it because of CoP I think.

How were people abusing it? I mean someone comes up with a good build and then Anet nerfs it. I don't understand.

It's not like being a Boon Prot was easy. I've gotten my butt handed to me plenty of times.

primitiveworker · Sep 14, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57

The BoonProt has always been afraid of Well of the Profane, nothing has really changed fundamentally--for this reason BoonProts have been missing in HA for quite a while now. Still perfectly viable in GvG, PvE, 4v4 and 12v12.

It looks like BoonProt has simply been brought back in line with other forms of monkery in terms of healing efficiency. You're still geting lots of healing power out of protection skills.

Pick Me · Sep 14, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Not all monks are Boon Protects.

Some just carry Boon just to use CoP. It was fast cast, fast recharge, low cost. Now, the recharge is longer, so no more spamming CoP.

Which is what I would call abuse.

olly123 · Sep 14, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by Pick Me

Not all monks are Boon Protects.

Some just carry Boon just to use CoP. It was fast cast, fast recharge, low cost. Now, the recharge is longer, so no more spamming CoP.

Which is what I would call abuse.

true but its on 10 secs and not 5 so not a major problem once uve used CoP once and kep runnign around ur other monkk in team ( if in 12vs12 or GVG) should heal u till boon is back then u cna look after ur self for a bit but i hope this is not the end of Boons

sno · Sep 14, 2006, 09:02 PM // 21:02

The healing was only lowered a very small amount, the only reason people would stop using them is the 10 second recharge. I still think they're very viable, however their use will have to be much more skilled in the presence of mesmers. Before if boon got shattered you could simply reapply instantly, now you could be disabled for 10 seconds.

More than nerfing boon prots I think this will simply increase the amount of enchant removals in pvp. It's nice that boon prots will actually have to pay attention now, before it was quite mindless.

Kuja · Sep 14, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Hex breaker will probably be more frequently carried as apposed to CoP, however its not a large enough nerf to 'end' anything. Other monking builds will grow in popularity however..

PS: 25-61 to 15-60 is the change.

Age · Sep 14, 2006, 10:36 PM // 22:36

I wouldn't say it is the end of boons becuase of 10 sec. recharge ppl stil use mend ailment in GvG and it has a 10 sec recharge.It sometimes nice to get that 1 pip of regen back and once it is back it won't take long to cast.

Kuja · Sep 14, 2006, 10:38 PM // 22:38

ailent is 5 sec

maddkrayziej · Sep 15, 2006, 03:10 AM // 03:10

boons are dead...the nerf was 13 points of healing per spell

Alfrond · Sep 15, 2006, 03:48 AM // 03:48

The boonprot may be weakened, but its not like its suddenly a worthless build. After the update I took my boonprot to RA and got a glad point with 9 flawless wins. I'm not saying that the monking meta game in more competitive pvp won't change, but the boonprot is still a powerful monk. I would aggree with previous posters that this change will just make other monk builds a bit more popular.

*lemming* · Sep 15, 2006, 04:26 AM // 04:26

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Originally Posted by Age

I wouldn't say it is the end of boons becuase of 10 sec. recharge ppl stil use mend ailment in GvG and it has a 10 sec recharge.It sometimes nice to get that 1 pip of regen back and once it is back it won't take long to cast.

Make more sense please.

LightningHell · Sep 15, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

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Originally Posted by maddkrayziej

boons are dead...the nerf was 13 points of healing per spell

Nothing to worry about, IMO. Boon Prots are slightly harder to use now, but still powerful.

Ensign · Sep 15, 2006, 06:44 AM // 06:44

It's 10 healing straight (20...70 to 10...60). You can feel a slight loss of power, but the speed and utility is still there. At worst, people will be more likely to splash for Gift of Health.

The recharge only matters if they double strip, and then you're down Boon for around 8 seconds. OMG, your maintained enchantment is now vulnerable to enchantment removal! In case you didn't know, booners are still functional without a Boon up, and they do take their Boons down themselves to save energy at times. It's a bit less forgiving of a character now, but the archtype is just fine.

Peace,
-CxE

olly123 · Sep 15, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

kool thanx for the post on this and im glade thay wenrt dead ( i also feel honered thta son posted on MY thread

( sorry had to make thta point). thanx all, post if u wan tto dusess more

I Brother Bloood I · Sep 15, 2006, 07:22 PM // 19:22

Ur going to see alot more blessed light and woh i bet maybe even aegis will be brought back for once thats somethin im waiting to see.

SnipiousMax · Sep 15, 2006, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by I Brother Bloood I

Ur going to see alot more blessed light and woh i bet maybe even aegis will be brought back for once thats somethin im waiting to see.

Nah.

Blessed Light - Great build, lots of utility... But somewhat fragile, and requires alot of micromanagement.

WoH - Not much utility, not really usefull in RA, AB, TA, or GvG. Heck... I still wonder why the play it in PvE.

Aegis does creep into play every now and again, but it's too expensive for wide use.

Point being, Booner's are still a very solid, sturdy and useful build. They function well enough without Boon up, and when it IS up, the slight difference in healing power is hardly noticable. If you're having trouble keeping up anymore, then it's easy enough to supplement things with Gift of Health (as was mentioned). Boon Prots are still strong enough to use often, just not as invincible as they were before.

derrtyboy69 · Sep 15, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Weaker? Yes
Easier to counter? Yes
Will they die? No, they still have the insanely fast casting spells, prot ability, and healing ability to work great.