Curse

Mistress Dasha · Nov 15, 2005, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Hey all,

I just recently started playing this game again.. I have my Mo/Me that I enjoy to log on once in a while (since its so easy to get a group hehe).. I was wondering what is a good elite for a divine/healing build.

13 heal 12 divine

Healing Breeze - for casters that dont like to move when hit
Orison of Healing - most used skill
Heal Other - rarely needed but nice to have
Divine Healing - can't beat the heal on this one
Vigorous Spirit - keeps warriors happy they see blue numbers
Divine Boon - gotta love this spell
Unyeilding Aura - I don't really like this one since people dont usually die in my groups
Restore Life - best res spell I have

I am a PvEer I know I know sucks to be me.. But I do appreciate anyone throwing this old dog a bone..

Mistress Dasha

Racthoh · Nov 15, 2005, 07:50 PM // 19:50

You can never go wrong with Word of Healing, a Heal Other at half the cost when used in the right situation.

Spellbreaker can be very useful, depending on how well your team communicates. It can greatly benefit your main tank when they can completely ignore the effects of spells for quite a while.

Vexed Arcanist · Nov 15, 2005, 07:54 PM // 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistress Dasha

Hey all,

I just recently started playing this game again.. I have my Mo/Me that I enjoy to log on once in a while (since its so easy to get a group hehe).. I was wondering what is a good elite for a divine/healing build.

13 heal 12 divine

Healing Breeze - for casters that dont like to move when hit
Orison of Healing - most used skill
Heal Other - rarely needed but nice to have
Divine Healing - can't beat the heal on this one
Vigorous Spirit - keeps warriors happy they see blue numbers
Divine Boon - gotta love this spell
Unyeilding Aura - I don't really like this one since people dont usually die in my groups
Restore Life - best res spell I have

I am a PvEer I know I know sucks to be me.. But I do appreciate anyone throwing this old dog a bone..

Mistress Dasha

While I don't necessarily like this build myself the elite of choice for most monks I play outside of smite is Offering of Blood. Also if you are going with a Divine Healing build, shouldn't you have max or near max Divine Favor? Try...

16 Divine Favor
11 Healing
8 Blood

Dwayna's Kiss
Orison of Healing
Healing Touch (works on nearby casters/rangers too, not just you)
Signet of Devotion (to top off folks when not stressed to spike heal)
Offering of Blood
Divine Boon
Mend Ailment
Restore Life (really OoB is great here as you can quickly be up on energy)

If you want a party healer Heal Party with Offering of Blood is more than fine, but unless you are in Thunderhead or somewhere where your party is being degened to death (outside Ember Light Camp is another place), you really won't need party healing so much.

Also, those casters who love to tank are a detriment to you and your party. Putting breeze on them lets them continue to be a sponge for your energy. Let them get close to death and they will move, then you heal them.

Hrm...I just noticed you said "PvE"...were you looking for PvP and if so which format? Small arena or 8v8? Small Arena I go protection like so:

12+1+3 Divine Favor
10+1 Protection
8 Blood

Divine Boon
Reversal of Fortune
Guardian
Signet of Devotion
Offering of Blood
Mend Ailment
Spell of Choice (Prot Spirit, Divine Intervention, etc.)
Contemplation of Purity

Yamat · Nov 15, 2005, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Whoa, Vexed, talk about missing the point of the thread! The OP wants to use Divine Healing... you omitted it completely in your reply!

Your point about OoB is a good one, but after playing with a build from Ensign recently I've grown to like Word of Healing...

FWIW, I never, ever carry Restore Life. Rebirth always in PvE.

Mistress Dasha · Nov 15, 2005, 09:57 PM // 21:57

hmm I don't see offering of blood in the monk skill list.. Is this a new spell?

many thanks for the replys. I am thinking word of healing since Id only be casting a heal like that if there below half and it removes heal other from my list ohhh I get to add a new skill.. my orision is healin for 160+..

Im actually trying to get my healin and divine up to even for those times my divine boon gets nocked off of me..

thanks for the rez tip I have been debating rebirth restore life for a while.. I have needed rebirth more times than I needed to battle rez someone..

/hugs
Mistress Dasha

Racthoh · Nov 15, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Offering of Blood is a necromancer skill tied to the blood line, hence the reason why you won't find it in monk skill listing.

Mistress Dasha · Nov 15, 2005, 10:19 PM // 22:19

oh doesnt that make sense it sounded like a necro skill hehe...

Yukito Kunisaki · Nov 16, 2005, 06:55 AM // 06:55

Spell Breaker {E} and Word of Healing {E} are the only elites that seem to be worth a divine healer focused person's time in PvE...

SB is THE BOMB in the later levels where your tank will be clobbered with every spell in the book...

Vexed Arcanist · Nov 16, 2005, 03:38 PM // 15:38

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Originally Posted by Yamat

Whoa, Vexed, talk about missing the point of the thread! The OP wants to use Divine Healing... you omitted it completely in your reply!

Divine Healer was the topic, a Divine Healer uses Divine Favor. Divine Healing has a long cool down and I don't really care for it. Word of Healing is crap on a boon build, no reason for your elite to go to a skill that is pretty much covered via Dwayna's Kiss and Orison of Healing. WoH is just a trashy elite, sorry. Offering of Blood works with ALL YOUR SPELLS. Energy management is absolutely necessary when playing a boon build.

[edit to clarify] Divine boon + Dwayna's Kiss OR Orison of Healing, not to mention Healing Touch which wasn't even in this "Divine Healer" build but gets a huge Divine Favor healing boost, are all you need. Don't waste an elite slot with WoH.

Mesmerized · Nov 16, 2005, 04:01 PM // 16:01

In place of heal other, you could maybe throw in Healing Seed, but thats just me.. I love healing seed ^_^

Mistress Dasha · Nov 16, 2005, 04:02 PM // 16:02

well I had healing touch in my line up but I have to touch someone and personally I like to stay way back from battle no need for me to be hit with AE's...

am I confused or does Word of Healing not get the divine boon bonus? cause if it did its a better heal than dwayna's or healin touch - specially since you dont have to touch and you dont have to have alot of conditions or hex's..

heres a new build

Healing Breeze
Orison of Healing
Word of Healing
Divine Healing
Divine Intervention
Vigorous Spirit
Divine Boon
Rebirth

think im gonna try out divine intervention..

oh and Hey Yukito /bow to da SK

again thank you all

linh · Nov 16, 2005, 04:08 PM // 16:08

If you use Boon, you should choose Offering of Blood as an elite skill for energy management because you will be out of energy fast and WoH is not really effective with boon.
But WoH is still my favourite skill when I dont use boon

Mistress Dasha · Nov 16, 2005, 04:12 PM // 16:12

I am a Mo/Me not a Mo/N... I have no issues with my energy pool. but I thank you for the advice..

audioaxes · Nov 16, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13

put in healing touch for selfhealing , switch in dwyanas kiss for orison

dont see why a healer needs divine boon in pve, a bit overkill healing and you'll never see the bonus from word of healing

Vincent Ritz · Nov 16, 2005, 04:18 PM // 16:18

If you want a skill that works to improve divine healing itself, try glyph of renewal, (I don't know if it works with DH, but if it does it might be worth a try but you'd have to change to /E).

I have to agree with Vexed, OoB is an excellent energy manager, and considering how easy it is to heal back that health sacrifice, (especially with divine boon) it's well worth it for energy management. Even with 0 blood magic you get like a net of 3 energy a cast. (my mes was lucky enough to arcane thievery it once)

When I PvP, I find full party healing to be less effective than individual heals.

12+1+3 Divine Favor
10+1 Protection
8 Blood

Divine Boon
Protective Spirit
Reversal of Fortune
Guardian
Mend Ailment
Divine Spirit(for emergency use only, like saving your own skin)
Spell of Choice (Divine Intervention, etc.)
Offering of Blood

a 20% enchantment sword/axe never hurts.

I know Divine healing is a very good heal for the whole party, but that 30 second recharge makes me cringe.

If you never plan on PvP tho, you may not need an elite skill, perhaps you should just ask yourself whould would best replace Unyielding Aura.

But if you just gotta have an elite, I'd have to say WoH is better than UA at the very least.

EDIT: just checked Glyph of Renewal... thought it wasn't elite... it is

Yukito Kunisaki · Nov 16, 2005, 04:19 PM // 16:19

If you can pump enough blood magic stats into it, then MAYBE Offering of Blood {E} is your thing. But I wouldn't get OoB unless my Blood Magic is double digit. You want Divine Favor and healing huh? Try this...

12+1+3 Healing Prayers
8+1 Divine Favor
10 Blood Magic

Healing Breeze
Healing Seed
Orison of Healing
Dwayna's Kiss
Healing Touch
Divine Boon
Rebirth
Offering of Blood {E}

Healing Touch combined with Divine Boon right after you cast Offering of Blood {E} is an ultra self-heal and the other skills are rather quick cast/recycle so it should work out fine. I'd always prefer a monk who uses BOTH of his/her classes than a pure monk. No half-assed half-class can be as efficient as one with a full skill class-blend compliment. The only class with any level of recognizable efficiency as a pure class is definitely the ranger...

Vexed Arcanist · Nov 16, 2005, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

If you can pump enough blood magic stats into it, then MAYBE Offering of Blood {E} is your thing. But I wouldn't get OoB unless my Blood Magic is double digit. You want Divine Favor and healing huh? Try this...

12+1+3 Healing Prayers
8+1 Divine Favor
10 Blood Magic

Healing Breeze
Healing Seed
Orison of Healing
Dwayna's Kiss
Healing Touch
Divine Boon
Rebirth
Offering of Blood {E}

Healing Touch combined with Divine Boon right after you cast Offering of Blood {E} is an ultra self-heal and the other skills are rather quick cast/recycle so it should work out fine. I'd always prefer a monk who uses BOTH of his/her classes than a pure monk. No half-assed half-class can be as efficient as one with a full skill class-blend compliment. The only class with any level of recognizable efficiency as a pure class is definitely the ranger...

With that low a Divine Favor you are missing out with Divine Boon.

As to the OP's repeated replies all I can say is, as someone else noted, Divine Boon just isn't that great on a healer in PvE. If you are gonna use Word of Healing, drop Divine Boon since you don't have any other energy management. If you are doing the final 3 missions, especially Hell's Precipice, and you don't have energy issues then you have one bugged energy regen or you have 3 healer types.

Mistress Dasha · Nov 16, 2005, 05:14 PM // 17:14

oh I am only at Thunderhead Keep... havnt tried it yet but up till this point I havnt had energy issues cept that terrain in the Dragon mission were it gave grp HP degen.. I have 44 energy don't know if thats high or low..

reason I don't use the /Me no skills really would help me besides bringin a interupt of some sort if I know were goin against a diff monsta.. but the /me is great for when I want to go out with henchies..

Reve2uk · Nov 16, 2005, 06:31 PM // 18:31

i normel take spellbreaker for me to protectoir from other casters so that i can heal with out being hexed or the target of ele's skills that can hurt :P

also it can be very usefull on a tank esciply if u have enchaments on him as in lfe bond

Yamat · Nov 16, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28

As a PvE healer, you really don't need a standalone energy management skill... and you don't need Divine Boon either. All you really need to do is not overheal, which is what most healers do. You don't need to start casting heal spells when the person is down to 80-90% health... that's a waste of energy right there.

That's why I say use WoH... cast it as soon as they drop below 50% and it's recharged by the time the next person needs it... now that's PROPER energy management. Bring Heal Other for the few times you need a big heal and WoH is still recharging, which won't be that often.