Curse

zehly · Sep 14, 2005, 02:21 AM // 02:21

So I'm getting run to Droknar's Forge, and I notice the runner is doing a very good job. I took note at what he was doing, and noticed no skills, so assumed it was stances. I listened to some of the sounds, and, lo and behold, I got this. It's probably not the exact same, but it works for me, too, running most places.

-> Sprint
-> Charge! {E}
-> Balanced Stance
-> Defensive Stance
-> Disciplined Stance
-> Wary Stance
-> Bonetti's Defense
-> Smite Hex

To gain adrenaline for Bonetti's, I figured Wary Stance was probably it. But for sure: Stances play the key here.

The persons IGN is available upon request.

Post any tweaks/thoughts/modifications. It might not be all 100% correct.

I want to say beforehand that the person who provided the run gave cause for me to post this, even though he called it a "secret build." I'm all for proprietary, but under certain circumstances, I believe in Freedom of Information. I do NOT want a flame war to ensue.

~Zehly

Firan · Sep 14, 2005, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Interesting... I don't see any particular weakness besides no self heal.

coldslammer · Sep 14, 2005, 02:35 AM // 02:35

heres my W/Me approach

Sprint
Charge(E)
Balanced Stance
Healing Signet
Illusion of Weakness(202hp backup)
Hex Breaker(good for hertics, imps)
Illusion of Haste(good for getting out of cripple for a while)

the 7th or 8th skill, could be whatever, i will survive, or inspired hex

master skorm · Sep 14, 2005, 02:38 AM // 02:38

hey great ******* job u stupid ***** im glad u posted my build after i told u plz do not then started carying on about it and then i get u to rankor and u tell me btw im still posting ur build i say **** u and i kick u refund ur money (u got a free ride to rankor) so dont tell my build w/o my permision plz do not tell my build again if i do not give u permition to use it

btw she said if i posted this id be breaking some kinda rule honestly idc i spent a week b4 the patch to come up with this build and most of what she has in there is wrong anyways so w/e gl runing that build

heres the real build
charge
sprint
balanced stance
defensive stance
deflect arrows
endure pain
purge conditions
smite hex

master skorm · Sep 14, 2005, 02:47 AM // 02:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by zehly

I do NOT want a flame war to ensue.[/I]

well ur gonna get one no matter what u say FREEDOM OF INFORMATION MY ***
HOW WOULD U LIKE IT IF I FOLOED U AROUND AND TOOK PICTURES OF U IN UR PERSONAL LIFE I WOULD FEEL DEVISTATED THATS HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW IDC HOW MUCH BANED I GET IDC ILL MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT THEY BAN MY IP ILL MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT AND HIDE MY PROXY U MESS WITH ME U GET BAD ****

Farin · Sep 14, 2005, 02:53 AM // 02:53

Something tells me this guy is NOT the runner... But if it is him.. Why do you get so mad? ot like it's that hard to figure out. I use almost an exact build myself.

Edit: Wonder if that build can get past Heretics, I have a hard time with them, since Crippling anguish makes me way too slow and if i try to remove it it's always a late rust or phantasm that gets removed. hmm.. Might try this anyways.

coldslammer · Sep 14, 2005, 02:56 AM // 02:56

take a chill pill dude
its only a game, whats wrong with sharing ideas about the game?

zehly · Sep 14, 2005, 02:58 AM // 02:58

Yeah. Since he decided to post, I'll tell you what happened. He was running my level 7 Ranger to Droks from Beacons (not for Arena, mind you, but for PvE). At any rate, I notice he is taking little damage and not healing. So I watch what he's doing. After a few minutes I gather the main idea of the build and ask him if I can post it, at which point he just goes berserk. Cursing, yelling, telling me he is going to leave. So I told him that if he leaves, I'll report him for scamming. Then he tells me how he is a God on GWG, and Nef hooks him up. We get to Rankor, and he gives me my money back, but not after filling me up with a bunch of malicious comments, etc. So I decided to post the build myself. Since it was all stances, I inferred the build.

I don't need to defend myself though, at least I don't think so.

master skorm · Sep 14, 2005, 03:00 AM // 03:00

yea man no worrys im spilling all my builds out just read them and for the guy that needs to get past heretics
use smite hex right after he uses criplingt anguish its got a slow recast and he usaly uses conjure phantasm first so u should be good to go unless u got like 2 or more heretics on u then theyll just spam it back and forth and smite hex dosent have the recharge time we all wish it did

Farin · Sep 14, 2005, 03:04 AM // 03:04

I can get it done most of the times, however sometimes theres the ocassional Frozen Burst thats screws me up. Would you mind pming your IGN i'd like to see that build being used, or just ask a few questions if you dont mind of course.

coldslammer · Sep 14, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06

Quote:

Edit: Wonder if that build can get past Heretics, I have a hard time with them, since Crippling anguish makes me way too slow and if i try to remove it it's always a late rust or phantasm that gets removed. hmm.. Might try this anyways.

the key to get past the hertics is keep an eye out on hex breaker, coz when you encounter a hertic he wont hesitate to slap crippling anguish on ya, so make sure u put hex breaker on, use charge to sprint by, your hex breaker will be gone, and apply it again.

master skorm · Sep 14, 2005, 03:07 AM // 03:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldslammer

the key to get past the hertics is keep an eye out on hex breaker, coz when you encounter a hertic he wont hesitate to slap crippling anguish on ya, so make sure u put hex breaker on, use charge to sprint by, your hex breaker will be gone, and apply it again.

i think hes using w/mo build

Saba The Hobo · Sep 14, 2005, 03:08 AM // 03:08

What a change of heart :#.

Either way, I like to keep a heal there 'just in case'. Guess it's up to the user how comfortable they feel with the stances.

Inviolable D · Sep 14, 2005, 09:38 AM // 09:38

Lol, so funny to read all those comments.

One question: Just cause you were using the build, your claiming copyrights over a 8 skill set combo? @ Masker Skorn BTW. Just funny, what if i *just* thought of it, and posted it, and you said *sware* *sware* etc etc, i would really just laugh that you cannot even have any informed conversation, no doubt you are a GREAT GW PLAYER, and ofcourse good idea with stances, but ... you get the picture

PS: no i dont play warr anyway

so, and also running seems lame, but thats not the point of this post.

paultd · Sep 16, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06

I chanced upon an opportunity to race the great master skorm. first he wanted to bet 200k plus 20 ecto or something like that, then decided to race for fun.

It was a tight lornar's pass, my storm chaser edged it out at the end. In dreadnought his legendary crippling anguish counter didnt seem to work too well, we both ended up dead to a nasty spawn of heretic. On the (nicer) respawn I blew by to a 2-0 lead.

Game over, so he refers me to this thread. You didn't want my suggestions skorm but i'll go ahead anyway and recommend remove hex over deflect arrows (like you really need it?, most tundra giant dmg comes from their stomp anyway). It's quite nice for the rare case you remove the wrong hex or whatever, you'll always come out on top.

master skorm · Sep 16, 2005, 06:23 PM // 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by paultd

I chanced upon an opportunity to race the great master skorm. first he wanted to bet 200k plus 20 ecto or something like that, then decided to race for fun.

It was a tight lornar's pass, my storm chaser edged it out at the end. In dreadnought his legendary crippling anguish counter didnt seem to work too well, we both ended up dead to a nasty spawn of heretic. On the (nicer) respawn I blew by to a 2-0 lead.

Game over, so he refers me to this thread. You didn't want my suggestions skorm but i'll go ahead anyway and recommend remove hex over deflect arrows (like you really need it?, most tundra giant dmg comes from their stomp anyway). It's quite nice for the rare case you remove the wrong hex or whatever, you'll always come out on top.

um remove hex has like a 6 second cast time smite hex has a 1 its recharge is a 6 but my item works well for that and i cant take a 6 second stop to make a mistake that might cost my life if i use remove hex i might remove conjure phantasm and then if i do that they will slap it back on me and ill be screwed and have to waste another 6 seconds removing it trying to get to the slow spell which will screw me again cuz theyll just recast it

the idea is if they slap conjure phantasm 2nd ur screwed but if they put crippling anguish on you first u can quicky remove it and they cant put it back on 20 second recharge so in other words if u play it wrong with remove hex you die if you use smite hex like me u can get past 3-4 arcanists cuz most likely you'll be out of range of the others and when the others catch up to cast crippling anguish again your gone if u waste the time for remove hex your screwed

when i got caught up in the heretics in the race i just had bad luck =P my bad maybe next time ill win =) good job though i've never seen a w/r run it that well

cookiehoarder · Sep 16, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by master skorm

well ur gonna get one no matter what u say FREEDOM OF INFORMATION MY ***
HOW WOULD U LIKE IT IF I FOLOED U AROUND AND TOOK PICTURES OF U IN UR PERSONAL LIFE I WOULD FEEL DEVISTATED THATS HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW IDC HOW MUCH BANED I GET IDC ILL MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT THEY BAN MY IP ILL MAKE A NEW ACCOUNT AND HIDE MY PROXY U MESS WITH ME U GET BAD ****

Roffffffffffle.

Is that all one sentence?

Ooo I love the "U MESS WITH ME U GET BAD STAR STAR STAR STAR"

Chill out dude, it's just a game. Nothing remains a secret, ever.

cccc · Sep 16, 2005, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by zehly

I don't need to defend myself though, at least I don't think so.

I just sign up and I never thought my first post will be flaming but you do NEED to defend yourself.

First of all, he never said you could post his build. You did ask him and he never said yes.

Secondly, he did refund your gold back to you like you said which mean the deal of the run is cancelled and that's more like you don't have a right to interact or post anything during the run.

Thirdly, you posted "the person's IGN is available upon request"?!?!?! Did he allow you to do that? This is just plain wrong. How about I post your naked baby pictures on some homo sex web site and all I say is "naked baby pics available upon request"?

Last but not least, you are the kind of people that like to copy things from others, use it on yourself, and post it on the forum so you can take some kind of credits. I am not saying you really want to take the credits but posting like this already show your intention.

***I can see where this all started. OP asked if he can post the build, but the builder started flaming on chat instead of clearly saying no. OP got mad and posted it anyways.***

I don't know if master skorm is the runner. If he was, I can see why he's mad but still, chill out dude, don't get angry at people like that. Next time, learn to say NO instead of firing your bullets.

entropy · Sep 16, 2005, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by master skorm

um remove hex has like a 6 second cast time smite hex has a 1 its recharge is a 6 but my item works well for that and i cant take a 6 second stop to make a mistake that might cost my life if i use remove hex i might remove conjure phantasm and then if i do that they will slap it back on me and ill be screwed and have to waste another 6 seconds removing it trying to get to the slow spell which will screw me again cuz theyll just recast it

the idea is if they slap conjure phantasm 2nd ur screwed but if they put crippling anguish on you first u can quicky remove it and they cant put it back on 20 second recharge so in other words if u play it wrong with remove hex you die if you use smite hex like me u can get past 3-4 arcanists cuz most likely you'll be out of range of the others and when the others catch up to cast crippling anguish again your gone if u waste the time for remove hex your screwed

when i got caught up in the heretics in the race i just had bad luck =P my bad maybe next time ill win =) good job though i've never seen a w/r run it that well

umm I don't believe any spell is 6 second cast. Not even meteor shower... Its a 2 second cast btw

striderkaaru · Sep 16, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57

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Originally Posted by entropy

umm I don't believe any spell is 6 second cast. Not even meteor shower... Its a 2 second cast btw

i believe he was just exaggerating to get a point across. when you have 20 stone summit chasing you and a pack of tundra giants up ahead, standing still for 2 sec to cast a spell means death.