Curse

UberRusty · Jul 13, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Ever since posting up my old sword W/Mo solo build I've been getting quite a few PMs, so... not to sound rude but, instead of repeating myself and answering the same questions, I've decided to post a little something.

Keep in mind this POST will be W/Mo oriented.

First up, is your location. If you're going to start solo and farm, you SHOULD be looking to fight melee based monsters, or anything that doesn't have remove enchantments and the like, or anything that blinds you repeatedly. If you're in an area where there's one or two creatures in each mob that blind/strip enchantment, then you should bring condition removal and a useful low-energy recastable enchant such as Vigorous Spirit!

So, here are the W/Mo builds that I have "written" so far. To those that want their builds to remain a secret, give me a PM and I'll remove it. But if you want the build I posted YOU to remain a secret, I'm afraid that's a nay. I feel that everyone should be able to benefit from these builds. Besides, I don't spew out everything. n_n Everyone has their own secrets.

First is the original build that I posted:

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1. Hundred Blades
2. Sever Artery
3. Gash
4. Final Thrust
5. Healing Breeze
6. Vigorous Spirit
7. Mending
8. Balzathar's Spirit.

With this build I can tank around 5 level 20 – 30s with ease, and do a LOT of damage. Ease as in without losing 20% of my hp. If you don’t believe me, I’ll show you one day when I’m not too busy soloing. =P

Anyway, first cast Mending and Balthazar’s Spirit. Mending gives you 6hp/sec heal constantly. Then cast Vigorous Spirit. That means 10 hp per attack/spell cast. 30 seconds duration means you can constantly cast it. You don’t even have to hit. You just attack and that little 10 will pop into your red bar. With Hundred Blades, that means a small mob of 3 monsters will give you a 10 x 6 heal, 2x damage to each monster, 6 adrenaline in ONE attack for just a measly 5 energy. That means you have Sever Artery ready, and in 2 hits you’ll have Gash ready, and then a few more and it is Final Thrust. Remember, attack skills give you adrenaline gain too. =)

Bathazar’s Spirit means you gain at least 1 energy and a bit of adrenaline everytime you get hit. Since you’re soloing that means practically an unlimited stream of energy, and therefore that means Healing Breeze constantly, and therefore it means 10 arrows of health regen constantly, which means *gasps for air*, 20 hp regen per second. Pretty hard to die.

Of course, you’re not invincible. This IS Guild Wars afterall. Your main weakness is Break Enchantment spells. However, since a monster usually casts Break Enhancement only once, it will hit your Vigorous Spirit since it was your most current enhancement. Therefore, recast and happily slice your way through the crowd.

Sword attack speed = 1.33 seconds In 1.33 seconds, you have 9hp from mending, and another 10 hp from a normal sword attack. If you have Healing Breeze on, that means 30 hp from Healing Breeze + Mending, and another 10 hp from attack. That’s 40hp per every 1.33 seconds basically. Couple that if your 80 defence armor, you ARE going to be hard to kill.

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UberRusty,

I'm having some difficulties in getting a good build for UW. The Aataxe were hitting me for the usual 190hp, and I can't get enough hp's back on to save my life.(I also know I'm only 1 of 7 in the group) and the outcome has to do with how well they play their cards as well.I'm not doing any soloing with this character, just mostly UW, which would translate to working anywhere else in the game.

I have studied the build you and UberRusty colaborated on.

My stats:
-10 Healing Prayers
-12 Strength
-12 Axe

-Mend--Vig.Spirit--Rebirth

Cyclone--Eviscerate--Beserker Stance

I noticed on your build, it included---Healing Breeze&Balzathar's Spirit, which are NOT Healing Prayers. Are you guys using the 2 above without skill points?

Any suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciated.

I'll be more than happy to let you know how your idea(s) workout,

Thanks Again,

First up, Greyscale never came out with that build. I sent him a PM and he copied it. :P But I'm not a petty person I don't really care.

So without further ado, here's the skillset that I use for UW. (I haven't UW'd in ages, mostly PvP now)

1. Hundred Blades/Frenzy
2. Sever Artery
3. Gash
4. Final Thrust
5. Healing Breeze
6. Vigorous Spirit
7. Mending
8. Your choice/Healing Hands

This is the thing, you need to get a good Healer/Protection Monk to put up Protective Spirit or heal you when your health is low.

The skillset above is what I use at the moment. Healing Breeze IS Healing based, maybe your eyes confused itself. :P

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If you're looking for a more damaging Axe build, here's one I made.

1. Frenzy
2. Penetrating Blow
3. Cleave
4. Dismember
5. Executioner's Strike
6. For Great Justice!
7. Mending
8. Healing Breeze

The thing with these two builds is that if you're not getting hit, then Frenzy. If you ARE getting hit, stop Frenzy ASAP, since you take double damage and those UW creatures hit extremely hard. But for the sword build above (Which I use), I never had any problems with it.

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Heh I would like to be a wa/mo farmer I would like to be effective at it so I am asking you for your advice on the subject.

My build when finished:
12 axe
8 strength
8 tactics
10 healing

cyclone axe, dismember, executioners, axe rake or axe twist, bonetti's defence, healing breeze, victory is mine, healing signet.

I am wondering where you would farm (melee targets)and if you would care to critique this build to well a finished product?

Use this instead. =)

1. Cyclone Axe
2. Axe Skill (Penetrating Blow is good)
3. Axe Skill (Cleave is good)
4. Axe Skill (Executioner's Strike)
5. Healing Breeze
6. Vigorous Spirit
7. Mending
8. Balzathar's Spirit

10 Healing
10 Strength
10 Axe Mastery

Notes: Balzathar's Spirit, Mending, Vigorous Spirit always. As with the sword build, you have practically infinite energy. Keep Cyclone Axing and then use your aldrenile skills in between the Cyclone recharge. Vigorous Spirit works even better here. Touch of Healing Breeze here and there when you need it.

Have fun!

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Hey, I was just a bit curious after reading you skills and stats allocations. Do you use the Ascalon set for the reduced damage or Gladiator's for the +energy?
Also, are the 10's in each stat base or did you use runes and the helmet bonus? If not, what one's would you suggest? I am looking for a nice build that can go through the game easily and I really liked yours. Thank you for your time, I appreciate it.
-Red1086

Hmmm I can't believe I've had so many PMs on this. I think I'm going to post up a thread so I don't have to repeat myself and EVERYONE benefits from each other's knowledge.

But to be fair I shall answer your question!

I use all Glads apart from the boots. Knights "Reduce damage" only applies once, (-2 dmg), so no point of getting a full Knight set. I hope this have cleared up some things for you. Knights = Ascalon in stats I think.

These are just some of the many PMs I have recieved, but this basically IS what my answers have been. :P

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them and I'll try my best to answer them. If you have anything to contribute, critisize and whatnot, feel free to do that too. If you wish to flame me, make it entertaining.

Yukito Kunisaki · Jul 14, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02

I'll try to help this out with W/N input.

This build can solo in the same places mentioned, however, since it doesn't run enchantments, you can use it in more places.

W/N Blood Magic types don't farm. They just don't. If you think you can, bring your build to the southwest dunes of Augury Rock and try to take down 7 [yes seven] Desert Griphons. If you can do that, then you've proven me wrong.

Here it is: my Curses high efficiency W/N build

strength: 7+1
Axe: 10+2
Tactics: 9+1
Curses: 10
leftover: 2

Cyclone Axe
Dismember
Axe Rake
Bonetti's Defense
Victory is Mine! {E}
Enfeebling Blood
Mark of Pain
Plague Touch or etc. [I used to use plague touch but enemies where I farm don't condition me. Shadow of Fear can help big time if your energy is up to the challenge]

As you can see, ViM and Enfeebling Blood recycle within each other's duration so you can keep all the enemies weak and feed off their weakness indefinitely.

The more enemies you have on you, the better Victory is Mine will be when you execute Enfeebling Blood. The bigger the mob, the higher your efficiency. Mark of Pain and Bonetti's Defense is a beautiful mob killer. No need to use a skill to smash the entire mob.

Racthoh · Jul 14, 2005, 05:02 AM // 05:02

When I used to farm outside of Port Sledge, here is what I used:

12 + 4 Tactics
12 + 3 Sword
3 + 1 Strength

Full Dragon or Plate, Ascalon Helm, Superior Vigor/Absorption/Sword/Tactic, minor strength.

Skills
Gladiator's Defense (e)
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Defensive Stance
Galgarath Slash
Bonetti's Defense
Healing Signet
Pure Strike

Weapon - Shocking Long Sword of Shelter (Lightning damage, +7AL vs. Phys, Damage +15% while in stance)
Shield - +45 Health/-2 Damage while in stance.

Both are collector's items in Snake Dance, sword I put on the shocking and shelter naturally.

With this, I could handle mobs of at least 10 Crawl and Crawl Ulodyte.

The skill order is quite simple. Start with Gladiator's, and Riposte/Deadly Riposte/Pure Strike whenever you feel like it. Once Gladiator's finishes, throw up Shield stance, repeat skills. Once it ends, throw Gladiator's up once again. Now, you'll have to Bonetti's twice before Gladiator's refills again. Always make sure you have 5 energy for your stances.

Before you go into the Bonetti's, make sure you health is near max to avoid any possibility of death. Don't use any skills while Bonetti's is up or you mill meet certain doom.

I deal about 30+ damage with normal attacks, criticals over 50. Pure Strike and Galgarath hit for 80+. Riposte deals 42, Deadly Riposte strike for 32 and bleeds them for 28 (I believe). Gladiator's blocks dealing 37 each time. Almost needless to say, don't even bother attacking the Grawl and go right for the Ulodyte. They'll kill themselves just by attacking you.

Stances can't be interrupted when doing them, and there is few ways to remove them thus the bonuses from the sword and shield are always in effect. I also used this in the UW when I first attempted to solo... I could drop ataxes one at a time if they didn't hit me while I was using healing signet. Otherwise, 250 damage would hit hard. You can also survive smites for quite some time while your nuker deals with them.

powdahound · Jul 14, 2005, 05:46 PM // 17:46

Helpful thread. Thanks.

byoo511 · Jul 14, 2005, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

When I used to farm outside of Port Sledge, here is what I used:

12 + 4 Tactics
12 + 3 Sword
3 + 1 Strength

Full Dragon or Plate, Ascalon Helm, Superior Vigor/Absorption/Sword/Tactic, minor strength.

Skills
Gladiator's Defense (e)
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Defensive Stance
Galgarath Slash
Bonetti's Defense
Healing Signet
Pure Strike

Weapon - Shocking Long Sword of Shelter (Lightning damage, +7AL vs. Phys, Damage +15% while in stance)
Shield - +45 Health/-2 Damage while in stance.

Both are collector's items in Snake Dance, sword I put on the shocking and shelter naturally.

With this, I could handle mobs of at least 10 Crawl and Crawl Ulodyte.

The skill order is quite simple. Start with Gladiator's, and Riposte/Deadly Riposte/Pure Strike whenever you feel like it. Once Gladiator's finishes, throw up Shield stance, repeat skills. Once it ends, throw Gladiator's up once again. Now, you'll have to Bonetti's twice before Gladiator's refills again. Always make sure you have 5 energy for your stances.

Before you go into the Bonetti's, make sure you health is near max to avoid any possibility of death. Don't use any skills while Bonetti's is up or you mill meet certain doom.

I deal about 30+ damage with normal attacks, criticals over 50. Pure Strike and Galgarath hit for 80+. Riposte deals 42, Deadly Riposte strike for 32 and bleeds them for 28 (I believe). Gladiator's blocks dealing 37 each time. Almost needless to say, don't even bother attacking the Grawl and go right for the Ulodyte. They'll kill themselves just by attacking you.

Stances can't be interrupted when doing them, and there is few ways to remove them thus the bonuses from the sword and shield are always in effect. I also used this in the UW when I first attempted to solo... I could drop ataxes one at a time if they didn't hit me while I was using healing signet. Otherwise, 250 damage would hit hard. You can also survive smites for quite some time while your nuker deals with them.

It's too bad most warriors don't even notice that there is a thing called stances. I use a variation of your build too, but i like soloing riverside province cause it gives a nice challenge =)

firstwave · Jul 14, 2005, 07:27 PM // 19:27

I generally dont farm anymore. However, it seems I am always short on refund points. So I kill hydras outside of Augury's Rock. I can tank up to 4 at once and here are my skillsets:

11 Axe + 1
10 Tactics + 2
10 Healing
1 Strength + 1

Skills:

Cyclone Axe
Penetrating Blow
Dismember
"Watch Yourself!"
Balanced Stance
Gladiator's Defense (E)
Live Vicariously
Vigorus Spirit

I use Max damage, 12%>50% +4 defense, zealous axe
-2 when enchanted shield

Full gladiator (except tactician's helm and knight's boot)

I really like Live Vicariously + Vigorous Spirit + Cyclone axe combo. I can heal 80 points every 5 seconds.

Balance stance is a must unless you want to get knocked down constantly at the start of the battle.

I turn on watch yourself + balanced stance at the beginning of the battle and all the nukes deal less than 40 damage to me. Then I switch on gladiator's defense + vigorous spirit and maintain watch yourself! on constantly. I

UberRusty · Jul 17, 2005, 08:49 PM // 20:49

WOW I'm still seeing the same topics asking the same questions poppin up again and again... people should really learn to use common sense.

Deathlord · Jul 18, 2005, 04:34 AM // 04:34

I don't know how people find it so hard to create a solo-build. Most PVP Builds are orientated between staying alive and doing damage. To stay alive, you need defense and healing, to do damage, you need raw power and energy. Since PVP Builds are created by a group of people doing this, a solo PVE build would require one person to do all of these.
Skills I use for farming.

>> Staying Alive
- Dolyak Signet: Adds defense and unknockable status at no energy cost. Only side-effect is you move 75% slower, last I checked, monsters didn't run away from you too often.
- Watch Yourself: Adds a set 20 armor for a short period of time. Only requires adreniline, which can easily be built using a cyclone axe around a mob.
- Bonetti's Defence: Allows a short period of time where you have a 75% chance to block attacks. It will end if you use a skill, but it remains un-harmed if you use a spell. You can heal yourself constantly while the energy bonus maintains energy.

>> Healing:
- Healing Breeze: +HP Regen, can't say much more than that.
- Vigorous Spirit: Allows a good amount of HP to be healed for almost every action you do. Combine with cyclone axe to heal multiple times, also compatible with spells if you want to spam orison or something.
- Orison of Healing: Not the greatest heal, but easily spammed for low energy cost also helps damaging spells such as zealots fire.
- Healing Hands: Good self-enchantment that can bring you from 5 hp to 500.

>> Damage Skills
- Cyclone Axe: Build adreniline and just do some damage.
- Balthazars Aura: Very nice smiting aura, requires 25 energy so use a staff/offhand/glad armor.
- Symbol of Wraith: Also a pretty nice smiting aura, 1/5th the energy requirement of aura and more damage, but half the time and double the recharge.
- Zealot Fire: Good enchantment to combine with spammable spells such as orison of healing.

>> Energy Management
- Balthazars Spirit: Not great for warriors in PVP, but in a solo situation, who else are they going to pick on? Minor adreniline + 1 energy everytime your hit.
- Bonetti's Defence: Mentioned this earlier, great defense and energy management skill.

That's about it... the reason I didn't put it in a build-form is because there already are plenty of good ones here. Hope it helps.

sandman1 · Jul 18, 2005, 05:14 AM // 05:14

im curos thou if your running

6. Vigorous Spirit
7. Mending
8. Balzathar's Spirit.

would'nt this bring energy regen to -1(since your running 3 enchantments)

i run an axe/smite/tatics bulid and can
solo 6(usually 4 since normally one griffon per group always sits out of the fight till one is dead) griffons and +3-6 minatours at a time
there a risk of dying as expected
safer to kill 2-3 grps at a time

i use

1)cyclone axe
2)healing hands
3)healing breeze
4)zealot fire
5) Balzathar's Spirit
6)penerating blow (u can swap this for any other skill if u like,i jus wan to use up all tat adrelaine

)
7)bone defense
8)symbol of wrath

important thing is timing,always have healing breeze up at all times
once hp goes lower than 50% cast Healing hands and onces it runs out
hide behind bon defense as much as possible until healing hands is up again
as mentioned, this only works on melee mobs tat dun cancels your enchantments
hope it helps

Dyzfunctioned · Jul 18, 2005, 07:37 AM // 07:37

My W/Mo Farming build uses the following:
12 + 1 Axe Mastery (Minor Rune)
10 + 1 Strength (Minor Rune)
8 Healing Prayers
And then a few 1 or 2 in tactics, protection, smiting etc.

Skills:
Defy Pain
Healing Breeze
Cyclone Axe
Vigorous Spirit
Balthazars Spirit
Mending
Purge Conditions
Remove Hex

Basically just cast mending and balthazars spirit on yourself, rush into a large mob, vigorous spirit, Cyclone axe constantly, have defy pain on constantly, healing breeze if needed, and then purge and remove hex if theres something on you you need to get rid of.

super dooper · Jul 18, 2005, 07:51 AM // 07:51

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Originally Posted by sandman1

im curos thou if your running

6. Vigorous Spirit
7. Mending
8. Balzathar's Spirit.

would'nt this bring energy regen to -1(since your running 3 enchantments)

Vigorous Spirit isn't a 'maintained' enchantment, you just cast it and it lasts for 30 seconds.

Augustian · Jul 19, 2005, 12:15 AM // 00:15

UberRusty - I love you. lol. jk. but still, I've always been looking for a good solo build. That first one looks solid. Great job.

UberRusty · Jul 19, 2005, 03:01 AM // 03:01

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UberRusty - I love you. lol. jk.

Damn, you got my hopes up there.

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- Bonetti's Defence: Allows a short period of time where you have a 75% chance to block attacks. It will end if you use a skill, but it remains un-harmed if you use a spell. You can heal yourself constantly while the energy bonus maintains energy.

No rude tone in my sentences but I've tested Bonetti Defence and it ends when you cast a spell OR skill. (Skill = Spell in the description)

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That first one looks solid. Great job.

I take from GWG and I give back.

As long as the GWG community has contributers, then I will always contribute something of my own.

strikerxtreme4u · Aug 01, 2005, 10:17 PM // 22:17

on the first build what is the stats? it looks great too

Danaus · Aug 02, 2005, 12:03 AM // 00:03

Greetings.

As someone who has a Warrior/Monk focusing in Strength, Swords and Healing, I definately approve of your first build listed. However, unfortunately this warrior is not far enough along yet to have Hundred Blades.

As this one is currently only up to Lion's Arch, I'm curious what you would recommend instead of Hundred Blades? I'm fairly sure I have most of the rest already in hand (not positive).

sgtclarity · Aug 02, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07

there's nothing that can replace hundred blades,
which is why i like axes better

Melkor of ZoSo · Aug 02, 2005, 12:14 AM // 00:14

What I use is:

Healing:10
Sword:11
Tactics:13

-Galrath Slash (For when you have enough Adrenaline and want to get a good strike in)
-Live Vicariously (+10 HP When you hit)
-Vigerous Spirit(+10HP When you attack. This coupled with Live Vicarously gives you +20HP per 1.33 seconds, unless you're blinded or blocked or evaded)
-Shield Stance (20 Seconds of 75% Chance to block physical attacks. Gives you lots of time to do some Healing Sigs and other attacks)
-Gladiator's Stance (Can still use Healing Sig with this, and 75% of Physical Attacks are blocked and 32 damage dealt back to the source)
-Hundred Blades ( Great for both offense and defense. You're getting twice the damage in, and twice the +20HP from Live Vicariously + Vigerous Spirit. And that's if you're only striking ONE enemy)
-Boenetti's Deffense (Great for recovering energy... 75% chance to block physical attacks, and when you do, you get 5 energy. With Hundred Blades, this skill usualy charges fast)
-Healing Singet(Gotta have it)

I can solo 3 lvl 24 Griffons with this... Havent really tested anyting else. This is a VERY bad solo build for Spellcasters though...mind you... those Ice Imps tear me apart.

byoo511 · Aug 02, 2005, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Melkor of ZoSo

What I use is:

Healing:10
Sword:11
Tactics:13

-Galrath Slash (For when you have enough Adrenaline and want to get a good strike in)
-Live Vicariously (+10 HP When you hit)
-Vigerous Spirit(+10HP When you attack. This coupled with Live Vicarously gives you +20HP per 1.33 seconds, unless you're blinded or blocked or evaded)
-Shield Stance (20 Seconds of 75% Chance to block physical attacks. Gives you lots of time to do some Healing Sigs and other attacks)
-Gladiator's Stance (Can still use Healing Sig with this, and 75% of Physical Attacks are blocked and 32 damage dealt back to the source)
-Hundred Blades ( Great for both offense and defense. You're getting twice the damage in, and twice the +20HP from Live Vicariously + Vigerous Spirit. And that's if you're only striking ONE enemy)
-Boenetti's Deffense (Great for recovering energy... 75% chance to block physical attacks, and when you do, you get 5 energy. With Hundred Blades, this skill usualy charges fast)
-Healing Singet(Gotta have it)

I can solo 3 lvl 24 Griffons with this... Havent really tested anyting else. This is a VERY bad solo build for Spellcasters though...mind you... those Ice Imps tear me apart.

aren't gladiator's defense and hundred blades elite?

tuskenraid · Aug 02, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

AHA!!!! With these skills on my build I will now be the Uber Leet Hax0rz of Ultimate Pnwage. OMG!!! I'm starting to sound like a NNNEEEEWWWBBBB. Somebody slap me.

Thanks OP.

Alpha Moth · Aug 02, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

I'll try to help this out with W/N input.

This build can solo in the same places mentioned, however, since it doesn't run enchantments, you can use it in more places.

W/N Blood Magic types don't farm. They just don't. If you think you can, bring your build to the southwest dunes of Augury Rock and try to take down 7 [yes seven] Desert Griphons. If you can do that, then you've proven me wrong.

Here it is: my Curses high efficiency W/N build

strength: 7+1
Axe: 10+2
Tactics: 9+1
Curses: 10
leftover: 2

Cyclone Axe
Dismember
Axe Rake
Bonetti's Defense
Victory is Mine! {E}
Enfeebling Blood
Mark of Pain
Plague Touch or etc. [I used to use plague touch but enemies where I farm don't condition me. Shadow of Fear can help big time if your energy is up to the challenge]

As you can see, ViM and Enfeebling Blood recycle within each other's duration so you can keep all the enemies weak and feed off their weakness indefinitely.

The more enemies you have on you, the better Victory is Mine will be when you execute Enfeebling Blood. The bigger the mob, the higher your efficiency. Mark of Pain and Bonetti's Defense is a beautiful mob killer. No need to use a skill to smash the entire mob.

Wat does curses have over blood, cause im pondering on wat i should choose?