Curse

Morganas · Aug 31, 2005, 03:33 PM // 15:33

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Originally Posted by Dazzler

P.S. Can someone explain to me why "Fear Me!" is so good? I keep thinking, wow I can drain 3E from the foes near me. 3E just does not seem very sexy. With an axe I can do that every 5s if I want to sacrifice my offensive adrenal attack efficiency...is it useful for a single warrior? Or is the real benefit come in when you have 2+ warriors ganking the same target and spamming this every 5s or so?

I'd always get my tactics high enough for 4 energy, perhaps the site description is wrong.
It's good because you can cast it so fast, just being near your target will more than negate their energy regen entirely. Use echo with it and you can drop them to zero pretty darn fast.
It's also good because it's so hard to counter being unaffected by breaker or obsidian flesh.

neoflame · Aug 31, 2005, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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Originally Posted by Dazzler

P.S. Can someone explain to me why "Fear Me!" is so good? I keep thinking, wow I can drain 3E from the foes near me. 3E just does not seem very sexy. With an axe I can do that every 5s if I want to sacrifice my offensive adrenal attack efficiency...is it useful for a single warrior? Or is the real benefit come in when you have 2+ warriors ganking the same target and spamming this every 5s or so?

With 33% IAS, 4 strokes of adrenaline can be built up in ~(32/9)s (I'm ignoring the use of other adrenal skills, because I'm too lazy to do those models.) With 3E "Fear Me!" (8-12 Tactics), and assuming that every "Fear Me!" is perfectly timed, this is ~-2.53 pips of energy degeneration, AoE. With 4E "Fear Me!", this is ~-3.375 pips of energy degeneration, AoE. As "Fear Me!" is a shout, it cannot be interrupted or protected against, and energy denial against the warrior is mostly useless (and generally a wasted enterprise). Adrenal denial works, of course, but adrenal denial would damage a warrior significantly anyway, so carrying "Fear Me!" on most warriors doesn't make them any more vulnerable.

Claymore · Aug 31, 2005, 04:23 PM // 16:23

Right Now I used a sword wa/me using illusion, seeking blade, conjure phantasm, gash, phantom pain, final thrust, sprint, 1 other energy based skill for melee that escapes me for the moment and then res signet.

Disposeable · Aug 31, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37

I've been trying out a build similar to Eonwe's but I'd go with Shatter Enchantment instead. Although it's 5 energy more than Drain Enchantment, I prefer the damage over energy since in most cases it's never too much of a problem. Saying that it is useful to be able to spam Swift Chop against stance users.

Zeru · Aug 31, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16

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Originally Posted by Morganas

Mind wrack is considered bad because there are better uses for a skill slot on a mesmer shutdown build, but on a warrior who wants to deny energy + deal damage, it's awesome. You'll be able to trigger it almost as often as you can cast it, quickly killing anyone. IMO most of the complaining about mind wrack comes from a few smart players decrying its most common use on an energy denial shutdown mesmer, and everyone else just mindlessly applying the criticism to every other use for it..

You do realize that in the time spent casting a lvl 12 mind wrack the warrior will have done more damage than the mind wrack will, IF the MW gets triggered? It sucks plain and simple.

Blackout is highly overrated. You are gimping your damage so badly for a one target shutdown. Play a hammer if thats your goal, you'll do much better.

I agree with eonwe on the echo/fear me combo. While it is extremely good energy denial, you are basically not going to put out much damage at all. Less than double the energy denial output (echos recharge) for doing by far less than half the damage output? I'll pass and take the standard axe with eviscerate and 1 fear me copy. It was very useful vs spirit spam though, as cyclone axe+fgj meant that you were firing off a fear me practically every second. Not as worth it now though.

Slade xTekno · Aug 31, 2005, 05:46 PM // 17:46

I could swear there was a Dwarven Hammer Stance / Blackout build somewhere...

mr_boo · Aug 31, 2005, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Disposeable

I've been trying out a build similar to Eonwe's but I'd go with Shatter Enchantment instead. Although it's 5 energy more than Drain Enchantment, I prefer the damage over energy since in most cases it's never too much of a problem. Saying that it is useful to be able to spam Swift Chop against stance users.

The reasons why I like Drain over Shatter is just the opposite of you. Drain even at it's most lowest form nets you 10 Energy back, putting you back at square 1 of course, while Shatter will cost you 15 Energy but damage your target. I don't carry a foci right now, so I need that Energy not only for Melee attack costing 5 Energy, but also for Frenzy and Sprint. I don't ever want to be caught with my pants down and not have enough Energy for Sprint and Frenzy (which I try to run constantly).