Curse

FeuerFrei · Nov 03, 2005, 05:21 AM // 05:21

Ranger/Monk

Expertise - 11+2
Marksmanship - 10+1
Beastmastery - 1+1
Smiting Prayers - 10

Quickshot(E)
Dual Shot
Penetrating Shot
Favourable Winds
Tiger's Fury
Judges Insight
Savage Shot
Pin Down

This build emphasizes on dealing lots of damage through penetrating damage/speed. A Zealous Halfmoon/Shortbow of Marksmanship would be used.
Please give suggestions please.
Ps: This is for PvP

Danny Lohner · Nov 03, 2005, 05:26 AM // 05:26

Get rid of Quick Shot as your elite and use Barrage combined with Judges for lots of dmg to lots of targets (up to 6 i think). Also, what were you planning on with pin down, i would grab another dmg spell (power shot or something) or a rez sig. Also, with 13 pts in expertise it would be better to use lightning reflexes; it lasts longer and you evade 75% of attacks and it doesnt disable any skills. Maybe some other things too, but i would change what i have mentioned. -Danny Lohner-

Danny Lohner · Nov 03, 2005, 05:27 AM // 05:27

Actually, definately swap pin down with a rez sig. I read it was for PvP after i posted.

Divine Elemental · Nov 03, 2005, 05:29 AM // 05:29

No Preparations?
Spiking with just Judges?
TF
Thats not a Spiker
thats a Machine Gun
emphasizing on Shooting Speed with Penetrating...
IMO Take of TF For Frenzy
or Make it Like This

Judges Insight
Tigers Fury
Quickshot
Favorable Winds
Savage Shot
Read The Wind
Ressurection Signet
Dual Shot

Marksmanship : 16
Smiting : 8
Expertise : 10 ( Not Including Runes )
Beast Mastery : Rest Of The Points + Runes
You Use Energy Heavy Skills So Expertise Would Be Nice
and since ur a Machine Gun
Quickshot ( Dual Speed )
Read The Wind ( Dual Speed )
Favorable Winds ( Dual Speed ) Doesnt Stack w/ RTW
Shortbow ( Dual )
Frenzy ( Dual )
so... thats alot of speed
and massive damage

byoo511 · Nov 03, 2005, 05:42 AM // 05:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divine Elemental

No Preparations?
Spiking with just Judges?
TF
Thats not a Spiker
thats a Machine Gun
emphasizing on Shooting Speed with Penetrating...
IMO Take of TF For Frenzy
or Make it Like This

Judges Insight
Frenzy
Quickshot
Favorable Winds
Savage Shot
Read The Wind
Ressurection Signet
Dual Shot

Marksmanship : 16
Smiting : 8
Expertise : 10 ( Not Including Runes )

You Use Energy Heavy Skills So Expertise Would Be Nice
and since ur a Machine Gun
Quickshot ( Dual Speed )
Read The Wind ( Dual Speed )
Favorable Winds ( Dual Speed ) Doesnt Stack w/ RTW
Shortbow ( Dual )
Frenzy ( Dual )
so... thats alot of speed
and massive damage

isn't frenzy part of the warrior skillset?

smurfhunter · Nov 03, 2005, 01:59 PM // 13:59

i think he wants to be a r/mo/w

so do i

Eonwe · Nov 03, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divine Elemental

Favorable Winds ( Dual Speed ) Doesnt Stack w/ RTW

Favorable Winds does stack with Read the Wind, as well as with Winnowing. Hehe, why do you think ranger spike is so nasty

?

Also, to the OP. I would take out penetrating and swap in Read the wind, Also, use a flatbow if you're using read the wind (and favorable if you decide to keep it), because it's oh so nice.

FeuerFrei · Nov 04, 2005, 12:09 AM // 00:09

Hmmmm.....This gives me one heck of an idea

The Armour Piercing Machine Gun Ranger Build

Quickshot(E) - Speed+Damage
Dual Shot - Damage
Favourable Winds - Speed
Read the Wind - Speed
Judge's Insight - Damage
Savage Shot - Damage
Tiger's Fury - Speed
Pentrating Shot/Pin Down(I dunno why..but i favour penetrating shot)

Expertise - 11+2
Marksmanship - 10+1
Beastmastery - 1+1
Smiting Prayers - 10

or

Expertise - 10+2
Marksmanship - 15+1
Beastmastery - 1+1
Smiting Prayers - 10

Zealous Flatbow of Marksmanship - Damage
Zealous Shortbow/Halfmoon of Marksmanship - Speed
(Do ppl carry 2 bows?)

Druids Armour(More Energy)

So...what do you guys think? With LOADS of speed and damage...is it going to be effective?

smurfhunter · Nov 04, 2005, 01:16 AM // 01:16

nope it wont

Divine Elemental · Nov 04, 2005, 01:17 AM // 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by smurfhunter

nope it wont

Error On Frenzy ;D
Hahaha

DDD

and so RTW + Favorable + Winnowing Stack
But since ur a CA I Think that Dont Bring Winnowing

Also To Subtract Frenzy
Bring Either TF / Other Dmg Skill

Divine Elemental · Nov 04, 2005, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeuerFrei

Hmmmm.....This gives me one heck of an idea

The Armour Piercing Machine Gun Ranger Build

Quickshot(E) - Speed+Damage
Dual Shot - Damage
Favourable Winds - Speed
Read the Wind - Speed
Judge's Insight - Damage
Savage Shot - Damage
Tiger's Fury - Speed
Pentrating Shot/Pin Down(I dunno why..but i favour penetrating shot)

Expertise - 11+2
Marksmanship - 10+1
Beastmastery - 1+1
Smiting Prayers - 10

or

Expertise - 10+2
Marksmanship - 15+1
Beastmastery - 1+1
Smiting Prayers - 10

Zealous Flatbow of Marksmanship - Damage
Zealous Shortbow/Halfmoon of Marksmanship - Speed
(Do ppl carry 2 bows?)

Druids Armour(More Energy)

So...what do you guys think? With LOADS of speed and damage...is it going to be effective?

Nope Srry

smurfhunter · Nov 04, 2005, 03:42 AM // 03:42

that was a little harsh, just swatting his build off the map like that, but if you read any of the links from everous' posts you would know why

er... everous had posts in the like clone post somewhere else. basically the reason why it sucks is out there *waves hand around*

FeuerFrei · Nov 04, 2005, 04:43 AM // 04:43

Does it have somethin to do with the energy...i read several of his posts and he stated that with all preps and stances...60% of the energy would be used up or somethin....or is it about JI and its casting time?

FeuerFrei · Nov 05, 2005, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Can someone tell me why it wont be effective?? ive checked through the posts posted by everous and i still dont get it...

mr_boo · Nov 05, 2005, 01:25 AM // 01:25

Running JI on a Ranger with QS will run you into energy issues...JI by itself will takes away ~1/3 of your energy pool since it's unaffected by Expertise and even with a 20% enchant mod, it will only be up probably 10-12 seconds (based on what you have smite in)...but don't take my word for it...give it a whirl and see for yourself if you run into any energy problems.

Tainted Poon · Nov 05, 2005, 04:37 AM // 04:37

I run JI with QS all the time, I see no energy problems

mr_boo · Nov 05, 2005, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tainted Poon

I run JI with QS all the time, I see no energy problems

I took it in the context of running JI like a preparation (in other words, almost constantly on). With JI and TF up, and the every other usage of QS, coupled with Dual Shot or Penetrating Attack, eventually the energy will catch up with you. If you can run JI with almost no downtime, post the build because I would definitely like to run it myself and check it out.

Tainted Poon · Nov 05, 2005, 08:07 PM // 20:07

I see what you mean, but I dont understand why you would use TF and pentrating and dual shot instead of just spamming QS like no tomorrow since using dual and pentrating slows the constant damage from spamming QS

FeuerFrei · Nov 06, 2005, 05:00 AM // 05:00

Without any other damage dealing skills, youve got no choice but to alternate quickshot and normal shot as one cant spam quickshot one after another like how barrage can be spammed. Thus it would look something like this...Quickshotshot, normal shot, quick shot, normal shot, quickshot....etc

We can replace some of the normal shots with damage skills which would boost your dps.
For example: Dual shot, quickshot, penetrating shot, quickshot, normal shot, Dual shot....etc

To mr_boo
What if i dont maintain JI all the time like lets say...i cast JI, followed by my preps and then Dual shot, quickshot, penetrating shot, quickshot until JI ends and then i just stick to Quickshot shot, normal shot, quick shot, normal shot?

Eonwe · Nov 06, 2005, 05:03 AM // 05:03

Actually the spike goes Dual Shot -> Quick Shot -> Savage Shot. Don't just try to spam Quick shot everywhere.