Curse

Sea_of_inK · Dec 16, 2005, 09:43 PM // 21:43

Protective Spirit
Description:For 5-19 seconds, target ally cannot lose more than 10% max health due to damage from a single attack or spell.
Energy Cost:10
Activation Time:1/4th of a Second.
Recharge Time:5 Seconds.
Linked Attribute:Protection Prayers.
Skill Type:Enchantment Spell

Vampiric Gaze
Description: Steal 18-52 health from target foe.
Energy Cost:10
Activation Time:1 Second.
Recharge Time:5 Seconds.
Linked Attribute:Blood Magic.
Skill Type:Spell.

The other day I was doing some comp. arena with my Prot boon monk and was doing very well if I do say so myself. Things were going nice and smoothly. I thought I had my build down. Peace and Harmony so I get Boon for free, reversal for the boon/prot heal, and of course, protective spirit to help me against all of the different spike builds that are out and about now. I did great against the air spikers, KD/AS warriors, ranger spikers, and everyone else who can do massive damage with a single skill or combination.
Then, I experinced a necro spiker, who was hitting me repeatedly for more then 10% of my hits. To make a long story short, I died as did my team. This sparked my curiosity so I came to the good 'ol gwguru to make check out vampiric gaze to be sure it was a spell and that it was not classified as some weird skill that doesnt apply to protective spirit. I come, and low and behold, it IS a spell. I decided to give all of the necro spikers out there the benefit of the doubt and came to the conclusion that prot spirit had dropped and I just hadnt realized.
A while later I come in contact with another necro who was hitting me for more then 10%. I slapped that prot spirit on myself so fast it could make your head spin. I was shocked to find that the damage was still, even with prot spirit on me, hitting me for MORE then 10%.
So I ask all of you to do me this: either confirm that prot spirit is broken, vampiric gaze is broken, or that I'm a loon and I'm just imagining things. I'm begining to think its the later because after doing some searching, I have yet to find someone else who has noticed necro damage hitting for more then 10% with prot spirit on.

Thanks for the help

Sniper22 · Dec 16, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Vampiric Gaze does not count as damage but it's stealing health. Prot spirit only stops damage spells. Vamp gaze also is not affected by prot bond, aura of the lich, etc

Anyway none of the skills are broken

ghezbora · Dec 16, 2005, 10:12 PM // 22:12

There are counters to everything, that's why the game works. Counters to Prot Spirit:

degen
vamp gaze (apparently, haven't seen this myself)
crystal wave (this one goes thru MoP too!)
others i'm sure...

and of course you can just remove the enchantment

enjoy!

Carinae · Dec 16, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20

I'm sure he was using Shadow Strike.

Shadow Strike bypasses Prot Spirit because it is TWO 50+ armor-ignoring attacks in one spell. Both attacks count seperately, and slide under the 10% damage cap.

Vampiric Gaze is pure life-steal, and not 'damage'. Even if it is capped by PS, most of the hit counts.

FYI: Vampiric Touch beats Protective Spirit AND Spellbreaker, because it's a life-stealing skill.

EDIT: VG also bypasses Mark of Protection.

Eonwe · Dec 16, 2005, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Like previously mentioned, Vampric Gaze is life-stealing damage, and is thus not affected by Protective Spirit.

Sea_of_inK · Dec 16, 2005, 10:59 PM // 22:59

Hmm, very disappointing. IMHO, loosing 10%+ of my hits should be stopped by prot spirit, regardless of where my health goes, that point should be moot. My opinion of course, I'm sure others would dissagree.

It makes sense that crystal wave would get through, because it says in its description that it ignores magical resistances. Same thing with Degen, I see it as massive ammounts of small hits over time,and as such degens not blocked by protective spirit. When I look at Vampiric gaze though, I see damage that is transfered to the caster. Damage is damage in my mind, where it goes is completely irrelevant. As it turns out though, Anet and I have a different view on the matter

Vexed Arcanist · Dec 17, 2005, 12:15 AM // 00:15

Actually Vamp Gaze is pittance compared to what a Dark Aura Bomber. To make it worse his skills are primarily touch based and bypass Spellbreaker as well.

Believe it or not there are some monk builds for 8v8 that run Vamp Gaze (along with Offering of Blood). They assist on the initial spike.

Carinae · Dec 17, 2005, 12:47 AM // 00:47

There is a tombs build called "8x68" that uses 8 necros with maxed VG.

Vexed Arcanist · Dec 17, 2005, 01:56 AM // 01:56

It's old news, I was merely pointing out if there is a threat from a single necro Vamp Gaze isn't it. In 8v8 the Vamp Gaze spike is, what? Two or more months old and I think it lost it's popularity after everyone tried it.

rii · Dec 17, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghezbora

crystal wave (this one goes thru MoP too!)

I thought that was modded or bugged or something so that by magic resistance it meant that stuff like spellbreaker/obsidian flesh didnt change it, not prot spirit... otherwise i though id see more crystal spikes around -.-