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SirTressman · Jun 28, 2005, 02:30 AM // 02:30

list ur skill and why and how u use it to make it good

Well for me its Posien Arrow

poisen hurts and u know it also appy is the only other posin skill unless mistaken

i use it in a traper format so they run in to my traps then i posien them so the have a Dot Damage of 7 then flame ats 7 for a little amout of time

Minwanabi · Jun 28, 2005, 03:38 AM // 03:38

There are so many different types of ranger builds, and types of PvP areas, Poison arrow isn't bad, but quick shot isn't bad in arena, either, and in specialized builds, oath shot can really shine. I've also seen builds focused on barrage, so, really, there isn't going to be a solid answer to your question.

ComMan · Jun 28, 2005, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Depending on your build, any of them.

Oath Shot on trapper/spirit builds, or ones that use secondary skills with long recharges.

Marksman's Wager for builds that rely on secondary spells rather than just Ranger skills.

Poison Arrow is more or less the standard. No reason not to use if you don't need one of the above 2.

Greater Conflag has its place on team builds, as does Muddy Terrain.

Tellani Artini · Jun 28, 2005, 10:20 AM // 10:20

In a warrior heavy team build, crippling shot.

For pre-emptive trapping and GvG flag poaching, spike trap combined with flame trap.

For choking gas or heavy reliance on other preparations costing more than 5 energy, practiced stance.

For physical damage AoE, barrage (sick when combined with certain monk/necro buffs).

For a high-interrupt build, make punishing shot your power attack.

As a Mo/R, melandru's resilience.

For sick enchantment-hate, melandru's arrows and dual shot.

For fragility builds, incendiary arrows.

For fast payload delivery, quick shot (still looking for a good way to implement this).

ComMan · Jun 29, 2005, 01:38 AM // 01:38

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Originally Posted by Tellani Artini

For sick enchantment-hate, melandru's arrows and dual shot.

I'm curious about this: Does Melandru's Arrows do it's own damage (like Kindle Arrows) or does it just make your arrow itself do +25 damage?

If it's the latter, then wouldn't it be better to use it with Penetrating Attack so that that +25 gets armor penetration? Sorry. I'm still working on my elites.

Tellani Artini · Jun 29, 2005, 02:08 AM // 02:08

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Originally Posted by ComMan

I'm curious about this: Does Melandru's Arrows do it's own damage (like Kindle Arrows) or does it just make your arrow itself do +25 damage?

If it's the latter, then wouldn't it be better to use it with Penetrating Attack so that that +25 gets armor penetration? Sorry. I'm still working on my elites.

It seems to do the 25 damage separately, ignoring armor, if the arrow hits. The yellow damage text doesn't show it separately like kindle arrows, though. Instead it just shows a -90 or so.

I've never noticed whether it's a straight -25 being hit by it.

ComMan · Jun 29, 2005, 03:00 AM // 03:00

Yeah, I just capped it and it seems to just add 25 damage to the arrow itself, rather than doing its own like Kindle. I haven't figured out if this works with Penetrating Attack or not though.

Jun 29, 2005, 03:17 AM // 03:17

Yes MA does ~+25 damage from what I've seen, which is why it's so good. It's an independent damage buff, which means it stacks with Orders, Conjures, JI. So it's technically Bow damage+MA damage+bleeding+damage buff. Add in TF and fire on an enchanted target for mayhem.

Puddin Tame · Jun 29, 2005, 08:39 AM // 08:39

I use poison arrow

Amnisac · Jun 29, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by ComMan

Yeah, I just capped it and it seems to just add 25 damage to the arrow itself, rather than doing its own like Kindle. I haven't figured out if this works with Penetrating Attack or not though.

This is why I love Melandru's Arrows so much. And yes it deals even more damage when coupled with penatrating attack, This is my favorite combo in PvP.

ComMan · Jul 01, 2005, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by Amnisac

This is why I love Melandru's Arrows so much. And yes it deals even more damage when coupled with penatrating attack, This is my favorite combo in PvP.

Yeah, seriosuly man. I've almost grown to like Tombs teams that don't care what I carry as long as I have Frozen Soil, because then I can take MA with me instead of switchout out for one of my other elites. That thing's like death in a box against casters and most warriors (who usually sub caster for enchantments). Poor Poison Arrow hasn't seen the light of day since I got Melandru's, and I used to swear by that skill.

I feel bad for having underestimated that skill for so long, thinking it was too circumstantial. Thinking about it almost makes me want to cap that Quick Shot I've been so quick to make fun for so long. Maybe that'll surprise me too.

Vermilion Okeanos · Jul 01, 2005, 06:53 AM // 06:53

and with those... they also almost ignore the effect of protective spirit, as each buff is count as a seperated damage.

Pitdragon · Jul 01, 2005, 11:42 PM // 23:42

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Originally Posted by ComMan

I feel bad for having underestimated that skill for so long, thinking it was too circumstantial. Thinking about it almost makes me want to cap that Quick Shot I've been so quick to make fun for so long. Maybe that'll surprise me too.

I've seen Quick Shot used very effectively before, some guy was basically using it like a machine gun with kindle arrows for tons of damage, I'm not sure how but I fully intend to get the skill and attempt to reproduce what I saw that guy doing.

MilkBone · Jul 02, 2005, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Overall for me, its psn arrow which is a good all-around skill for pvp or role playing. Im not sure about the traps because i have never seen them but they look to be good skills as well.

kenris · Jul 02, 2005, 12:29 AM // 00:29

i prefer melandarus arrows
what i usually do is use apply poison, attack, poison then enemy, then use melandarus arrows, and bleed them, then when poison is removed from them, use apply again, and when the bleeding stops, use melandarus again, just keep them poisoned and bleeding
i usually throw in dual shot or penetrating attack with it

ComMan · Jul 02, 2005, 02:52 AM // 02:52

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Originally Posted by Pitdragon

I've seen Quick Shot used very effectively before, some guy was basically using it like a machine gun with kindle arrows for tons of damage, I'm not sure how but I fully intend to get the skill and attempt to reproduce what I saw that guy doing.

I'm guessing Quickening Zephyr and high expertise, as that would make the recharge 1/2 second.

Edit: So yeah, I just capped Oath Shot while running with my pet. I had used my refund points to switch to BM to carry Fertile Season/Symbyosis/Predatory Season in the Tombs and didn't have enough left, so I broke out my pet and Ferocious Strike. That's a lethal combination....to bad it doesn't work after that one run.

I do like Oath Shot though. Not quite as much as Melandu's Arrows, but I'll take some time to mess with it.

BigTru · Jul 02, 2005, 09:45 AM // 09:45

Charm Animal > ALL

Prince Daniel · Jul 02, 2005, 09:59 AM // 09:59

Posion arrow, mine lasts for like 16secs and causes quick health degeneration, you can also quickly tab through opponents so the whole team gets poisoned.

Enigmatics · Jul 02, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04

Poison arrow's easily countered with a 4 pips of regen. I'd say my favorite was punishing shot, although I never did get time to cap MA, and It seems to do massive damage.

ericlee88 · Jul 03, 2005, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by ComMan

I'm guessing Quickening Zephyr and high expertise, as that would make the recharge 1/2 second.

Quickening Zephyr makes it recharge instantly.