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funnybunny008 · Jun 27, 2005, 02:03 AM // 02:03

I'm having the hardest time deciding if I want a Mo/Ele or a Mo/Mes. So I will leave it up to the majority vote of you guys/girls. I like aspects from both secondaries, and I've thought about Necro, but I'm not all about health sacrificing. Please put in your insights and thoughts, thanks!

ComMan · Jun 27, 2005, 02:21 AM // 02:21

I would rather have a pure MO.

Azure Kingdom · Jun 27, 2005, 03:34 AM // 03:34

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Originally Posted by ComMan

I would rather have a pure MO.

As would I. But if I HAD to pick I'd probably go Necro for the wells/life stealing.

Tellani Artini · Jun 27, 2005, 04:02 AM // 04:02

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Originally Posted by ComMan

I would rather have a pure MO.

Seconded, unless your team build calls for special skills from other professions to aid in defense.

Zyuu · Jun 27, 2005, 04:05 AM // 04:05

depends but in most cases I'd rather have a mo/me

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Sorochi · Jun 27, 2005, 04:19 AM // 04:19

I use a Divine Boon-themed character, so I use Mo/N for Offering of Blood. Peace and Harmony could work though, too.

funnybunny008 · Jun 27, 2005, 04:23 AM // 04:23

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Originally Posted by ComMan

I would rather have a pure MO.

you mean just monk class with no secondary??

Xeno Demachilo · Jun 27, 2005, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Well...This isnt one of your choices, but i would rather have an E/Mo..Elementalist first because of Energy Storage.

MRCG · Jun 27, 2005, 05:03 AM // 05:03

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Originally Posted by funnybunny008

you mean just monk class with no secondary??

I believe he means monk/any class, but with all monk skills.

Pepe La Pew · Jun 29, 2005, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by Xeno Demachilo

Well...This isnt one of your choices, but i would rather have an E/Mo..Elementalist first because of Energy Storage.

So your saying you have to be Ele primary in order to use energy storage!?!? That sucks I was planning on using Mo/E for energy storage.

SPARTACVS · Jun 29, 2005, 04:21 PM // 16:21

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Originally Posted by Pepe La Pew

So your saying you have to be Ele primary in order to use energy storage!?!? That sucks I was planning on using Mo/E for energy storage.

Yeah your secondary have access to all teh second class cpmpetences but one. E it's energy storage, N it's souls reaping, etc.

So if you do E/m, you won't have access to divine favor.

FrogDevourer · Jun 29, 2005, 04:33 PM // 16:33

Not a Mo/E.
Mo/Me could be good for energy management.

knives · Jun 29, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Def. a Mo/Me. Just because you can go channeling + energy tap if you are ever low. The only reason I would go mo/e is probably for wards and maybe ether renewal. But then that takes up a spot for your elite, which would be better to use a monk elite, rather than an ele elite for healing purposes. You could just use peace and harmony instead for energy regen.

Cymboric Treewalker · Jun 29, 2005, 04:38 PM // 16:38

If you are trying for a healer I would be a N/Mo - add Blood powers to your healing and you can put up huge party healing areas.

ICURADik · Jun 29, 2005, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Mo/Mes. or Mo/N are really the only 2 options for a good healer. Energy Storage is worthless on a monk. Instead of having 45 energy you have 80, but heal for 1/2-2/3 as much as the Monk primary. Level 14-16 Divine Favor With Divine Boon and healing touch is almost a requirment to keep yourself alive when fighting high level battles. Personally I would choose Mesmer secondary, for hex breaker and channeling. Possibly mantra of Frost if your on a Spirit Spam team. Another thing to remember as a monk with channeling is to have a secondary weapon with 15 energy. If you running dangerously low, just switch to that to cast a channeling + a couple heals and start gaining all that energy back.

kuramaroze · Jun 29, 2005, 05:05 PM // 17:05

I'd take a Mo/Mes or Mo/N over anything. Why? E/Mo's with energy storage aren't too good. For a healer, you lose divine favor making your heals suck. For a protector, you lose secondary class skills that could help you more than energy storage. For a smiter, same thing goes as a protector. There just aren't enough smite skills to do well as pure smite =P

For a Mo/Mes, I would probably use some sort of energy drain skill that didn't require an interrupt or anything so that I could use it periodically without interfering with my ability to heal. For tomes, where things are more tense, I would use Channeling to boost my mana up.

For Mo/Nec, I would use offering of blood to get my mana back, and then blood ritual to help out another monk or elementalist with mana regen.

I've played both and they work pretty well =)

Maxiemonster · Jun 29, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09

You should go for Mesmer, Mesmer can carry Mantra of Frost, which is needed for a Mantra of Frost/Winter team

Schorny · Jun 30, 2005, 11:04 AM // 11:04

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Originally Posted by ICURADik

Mo/Mes. or Mo/N are really the only 2 options for a good healer. Energy Storage is worthless on a monk

No, that is wrong.

A Mo/E can be great. For example take Ward against Melee and Ward against Elementar, now you created a top defense place. Would be a great addition to every protection monk. Glyph of lesser energy can come in handy if you plan to use heavy energy skills like Heal Party.

And of course you can use kinetic armor or earth armor which can boost your defense pretty high when targeted.

So it is not useless.

Also a E/Mo can heal good, but different than a Mo/*
E/Mo plays a complete different role, that is what most people don't understand. A Mo/* will and can heal spike damage. But every Mo/* will tell you, that he frequently run into energy problems as long as no energy support necro is available.
A E/Mo can't heal spike damage that well, but he is not supposed to do it. He shall spam Heal Party or healing breeze to keep the people's life up. A Mo/* can't waste energy for such small heals, but an E/Mo can spam them all day long. So you reduced the amount of work for your Mo/*, because he can focus only on the spikes. The Mo/* can also use Devine Boon, because he is going to heal only the big ones. That can be a great combo. Of course: only E/Mos as healers aren't that great, but a combination of both is pretty good.

Another example: in my guild there is a Mo/R
He is freaking awesome, because he can use some Ranger stances to avoid damage, and sprint away. I also thought long about a Mo/W for some stance and the tactics line, but I was too much worried about the adrenaline, but with Balthasars Aura that could also work great.

Just because some combinations are uncommon (ok, E/Mo isn't really uncommon) it is not bad. There may be bad combinations, but currently I haven't found one. I was able to come up with a decent build with every combination I imagined.

Zerian Black · Jun 30, 2005, 11:26 AM // 11:26

W/R sux

Schorny · Jun 30, 2005, 01:51 PM // 13:51

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Originally Posted by Zerian Black

W/R sux

That one is really tough to play. But I would play it as a pure Warrior with some Wilderness Survival or as a beastmaster. Both could work fine. There are a few stances that are nice and tiger's fury is also pretty good.

Energy is the main problem here: you need to find skills that won't need much energy. I think there is no focus/artefact/... for a W/R, so you are really in trouble.

But I have to admit, I would never play that combo, a R/W seems superior for most cases... but there is a place for W/R. For example a pure adrenaline warrior with Apply Poison. Could work.