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Old Jul 19, 2005, 03:12 AM // 03:12   #1
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would there be any use in a w/mo build for pvp where they cast a succor on each caster. the rest of the build could use adr. skills and possibly purge signet.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 05:06 AM // 05:06   #2
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Negative.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 05:11 AM // 05:11   #3
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Why is that, Minwanabi? Succor doesn't end when you run out of energy. Putting it on 2 casters means its basically 2 constant Peace and Harmonies without the negative effect of not being able to attack. A warrior using succor and all adrenal skills would be loved by his team's monks I'm sure.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 06:32 AM // 06:32   #4
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There are better things you can do with your energy than give 2 teammates +1 energy regen. Life bond, life barrier, or life attunement, to name a few. Also, some very essential warrior skills require energy, and an adrenaline-only warrior is quite gimped. You'd be quite the dead weight with 0 energy all the time.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 06:54 AM // 06:54   #5
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but isn't lifebond just vs attacks...

i just assumed 1 energy reg. all the time was pretty significant since its an elite.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 07:29 AM // 07:29   #6
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I think you'd be better off as a necro with blood ritual or blood is power than that setup. With no energy, a warrior is pretty gimped. He could still use valuable knockdown attacks but without the skills needed to boost your adrenaline and attack speeds (they take energy) he certainly wouldn't be knocking down enemies very often. It's a creative idea though, certainly.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 07:31 AM // 07:31   #7
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we use this pve when the warr is mainly for blocking and tanking. we let him sacrifice his regeneration for the greater good.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 07:55 AM // 07:55   #8
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I think you'd be better off as a necro with blood ritual or blood is power than that setup. With no energy, a warrior is pretty gimped. He could still use valuable knockdown attacks but without the skills needed to boost your adrenaline and attack speeds (they take energy) he certainly wouldn't be knocking down enemies very often. It's a creative idea though, certainly.
Yeah, one BiP can give as much energy as 60s of Succor.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48   #9
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It's not as fast as BiP, but the warrior doesn't usually have to divert attention aside from recasting Succor when it gets dispelled.

Try an axe warrior with Battle Rage.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 05:53 PM // 17:53   #10
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BiP only costs 5 mana and takes 1/4s to cast. In addition, the sacrifice doesn't matter much since you'll be targeted last anyway. It's also much more useful when you have multiple casters on your team. I fail to see how Succor is better.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 06:31 PM // 18:31   #11
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Also, if succor gets removed, it'd take your warrior 15 seconds to get the 10 energy needed to recast it. First thing that comes to mind is that monks are always the target of rend enchantments, so you're pretty much gonna have to be recasting a lot of times with a long downtime in between.
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Old Jul 19, 2005, 07:43 PM // 19:43   #12
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That's actually an ideal situation ^^. If one is removed it will take the warrior 30 seconds to regen enough energy for the second. Honestly, too many things can go wrong with it, and much large bonuses can be made by just having your monk run channeling/drains/etc. Succor isn't worth it on a good warrior.
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