Curse

hydra lorea · May 24, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13

im a elementalist and i have a fire staff (+8 energy 10-17damage) my fire skill is 9 and im level 10 but i only hit 11? my friend is level 11 and has a 5-9fire staff and hits 30

is it just me?

BrandonIT · May 24, 2005, 07:11 PM // 19:11

Well, I had a long explanation written out for how this might have happened, then I went to look for more information, and found the Guide to Combat Math and discovered I was completely wrong on almost everything I had described in my email.

I highly recommend reading A Treatise on Combat Mathematics from the GuildWarsGuru.com Guides section.

It pretty much explains everything.

Tarrant · May 24, 2005, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Points in the Fire line don't do anything to modify damage on a Fire wand, do they? Fire is an elemental skill not a weapon skill, so as far as I know it only affects spells. Is it possible you're comparing your wand damage to your friend's Flare damage?

Ming Ming Chopper · May 24, 2005, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Yes if you have that many points in fire you should use your "flare" not your wand...

BrandonIT · May 24, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by Tarrant

Points in the Fire line don't do anything to modify damage on a Fire wand, do they? Fire is an elemental skill not a weapon skill, so as far as I know it only affects spells. Is it possible you're comparing your wand damage to your friend's Flare damage?

In the above guide I referenced, I read it to say that elemental skills DO modify your damage on wands. However, that information may be out of date since it was written. I do not know.

If you wish to test it and don't mind dropping some refund points, you can drop points out of fire, test the wand, then put the points back into fire and test.

Refund points are awarded back at about 1 per every 250 XP points I believe, so even if you use all 24 points, you can make them all back with 6,000 XP.

Tarrant · May 24, 2005, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrandonIT

In the above guide I referenced, I read it to say that elemental skills DO modify your damage on wands. However, that information may be out of date since it was written. I do not know.

If you wish to test it and don't mind dropping some refund points, you can drop points out of fire, test the wand, then put the points back into fire and test.

Refund points are awarded back at about 1 per every 250 XP points I believe, so even if you use all 24 points, you can make them all back with 6,000 XP.

I saw nothing in that guide indicating elemental skill points modify wand/staff damage, but I can see how someone might see that implication when reading between the lines. On my lvl 9 E/Mo I notice no difference in damage between my 5-8 Air wand and my 5-8 Fire Wand with 5 in Fire skill. Maybe the numbers are too low to give significant impact, but I have yet to see someone come out and say Elemental skills improve corresponding wand/staff damage.

Rey Lentless · May 25, 2005, 05:24 PM // 17:24

So does marksmanship effect weapon damage with a bow, the same as the weapon attribute for the warrior line?

dansamy · May 25, 2005, 05:49 PM // 17:49

The staff I have does pathetic damage unless I have enough points in Fire to meet its req.

Rey Lentless · May 25, 2005, 06:07 PM // 18:07

That's different though. That's the weapon not doing it's normal damage because the req isn't met. Not extra damage done because of the attribute score.

Tarrant · May 26, 2005, 03:03 PM // 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rey Lentless

So does marksmanship effect weapon damage with a bow, the same as the weapon attribute for the warrior line?

Yes, it has exactly the same effect.

MasterDinadan · May 27, 2005, 02:58 AM // 02:58

The only attributes that affect attack damage are Axe Mastery, Sword Mastery, Hammer Mastery, Marksmanship, and (to a lesser extent, armor piercing) Strength.
"Magic" attributes do not affect your wand and staff damage, however levelling up DOES.