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English Warrior · Jun 21, 2009, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Just VQ'ed Norrhart Domains no team wipes, couple of deaths because i charge in, fantastic build guys, great work.

elypta · Jun 21, 2009, 01:31 PM // 13:31

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Originally Posted by shinslw

Which wiki are you looking at? I never played with reclaim essence before until 1 hour ago. I only changed the Healer N/Rt to a Reclaim Essence Union Shelter Ritualist. Looks fine to me.

Just vanquished Regent Valley not with the builds here but with the new fast cast spirits and reclaim essence.

I was looking at the unofficial wiki.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Reclaim_Essence

Arkantos · Jun 21, 2009, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by elypta

I was looking at the unofficial wiki.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Reclaim_Essence

They do this when they cast spirits outside of combat. It's annoying, but it doesn't affect anything really. As Fenix said, the second you aggro a mob the hero will use its spirits, and the second the enemies are dead the hero will use reclaim.

elypta · Jun 21, 2009, 01:39 PM // 13:39

thats great

, I got some idea's for the single man build too so lets make it work :P

leetLoLa · Jun 21, 2009, 01:41 PM // 13:41

will u wiki it?

Arkantos · Jun 21, 2009, 01:44 PM // 13:44

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Originally Posted by leetLoLa

will u wiki it?

I'm assuming you mean put it on pvx wiki?

If so, yes

leetLoLa · Jun 21, 2009, 01:48 PM // 13:48

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

I'm assuming you mean put it on pvx wiki?

If so, yes

ok cool ^^ ty for sharing with other gw players^^

zelgadissan · Jun 21, 2009, 01:49 PM // 13:49

Preservation makes me want to cry...

...but this still looks amazing. GG gentlemen.

Arkantos · Jun 21, 2009, 01:52 PM // 13:52

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

Preservation makes me want to cry...

...but this still looks amazing. GG gentlemen.

Yeah, I've been thinking of changing it to either WoR or XW, but I'm having no problems with it. And thanks.

zwei2stein · Jun 21, 2009, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

They do this when they cast spirits outside of combat. It's annoying, but it doesn't affect anything really. As Fenix said, the second you aggro a mob the hero will use its spirits, and the second the enemies are dead the hero will use reclaim.

A-ha! Thats the trick! Decent AI

My suggestions: Spirit's Gift is too great heal to ignore, I would replace instances of Spirit to Flesh for it, and ideally put it on Signet of Spirits hero. Purely because it can heal union/shelter/displacement.

Seccond Sprot Spirit on Necroes can be replaced with spirit bond (be thematic, damnit!)

I would stay away from preservation; you also miss Wanderlust (which I suggest as replacement) ... which is quite awesome when subduing enemies.

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I myself did little experimentation that kinda offtopic, but can be fun gimmick when two players run rt heroes and can micro them, so ON-topic:

4x Rt/A: Explosive Growth -> Deaths Charge -> Signet of Spirits - easy, near instant, 600hp damage, followup with Ancestral & moar spirits.

elypta · Jun 21, 2009, 02:15 PM // 14:15

I was fooling around with a 3 hero build and came up with this

havnt tested it yet but will do soon

Rt/

14 communing
11 spawning power
9 restoration magic

boon of creation
reclaim essence [E]
pain
anguish
shadowsong
spirit light
spirit to flesh
dpact sig

Rt/Mo

14 channeling
10 restoration magic
8 protection prayers
5 spawning power

Boon of creation
signet of spirits [E]
bloodsong
spirit siphion
mend body and soul
protective was koalai
convert hex
prot spirit

N/Rt

14 Death Magic
10 soul reaping
9 restoration magic

Discord [E]
putrid bile
animate bone minions
spirit light
rejuvenacation
life
signet of the lost souls
flesh of my flesh

lots of healing and party wide heals, seems gd but maybe doesnt have enough killing power?

lets see what you think

Edit: I tested it in drazach ticket HM, lots of hard hitting warden groups, I can only say WOW, I used a call build for my monk

12 channeling
10 smiting prayers
10 protection prayers

Painfull Bond
RoJ
castination signet
spirit siphion
agony
vampirism
summon spirits
aegis

made some changes engery wise on the 2e Rt

Call with Painfull Bond/Roj and see everythng getting pwned

White Lies · Jun 21, 2009, 02:29 PM // 14:29

Could a 1 man alternative/version please please be made for those who are antisocial?

~Lies

Xenomortis · Jun 21, 2009, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Hmm.
How would it work with a single human taking on something like the Channeling role, using two rit heroes and one N/Rt on the Restoration build, filling the rest with henchmen? Lose DPact and take Vampirism perhaps...
Not sure on the worth of Agony though... it would perhaps be nice to take Spiritleech Aura, but that's in Restoration Magic.

Clearly it won't be as effective and I have not yet seen first hand the damage output of the spirits.

speedy21589 · Jun 21, 2009, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Hmm...are you using spirit siphon on Rit #3 with no points in channeling? If so, I'm pretty sure you only get 4 energy back, when it costs 5 to begin with.

But yeah, this looks really fun...I'd been brainstorming about spirit spamming post-update, but never really got around to putting builds down on paper. And I completely overlooked Reclaim Essence.

Eragon Zarroc · Jun 21, 2009, 03:10 PM // 15:10

lmao, the pic is just funny. im curious just to see how it would perform but discord heros with saveurselves feels like im playing in NM enough as it is ;-)

FengShuiDove · Jun 21, 2009, 03:26 PM // 15:26

I know I'm asking several questions without testing it out myself, but I won't have time to give it a shot until later this evening, so bear with me =).

--When I was toying with some Rit hero bars after the buff, I also wanted to include Union/Shelter as a party wide "first wave" debuff, however, the spirits died incredibly quickly due to the "lose health when preventing damage" clauses. The way I would see around this is if the heroes are smart enough to Reclaim --> Shelter/Union in the middle of battle if the protection is necessary. Is this the case?

--What buffs affect the spirits? As players, I was thinking a support Ele or Para would be insane, Paragons because of the new buffs to Command or Eles with, say, an Earth build using Churning, Unsteady, and a couple of wards (including EBSoH). I can't get to the wiki right now and stare at skill descriptions, but I'm wondering if this would be a good idea for one of the human players, the other being big d0mage.

Pip Squeak · Jun 21, 2009, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Ty for sharing, looking forward to dusting off my rit and using this. Tried to do HM Vizunah for zquest yesterday and had total party wipe O_O. I'll try this and see how it goes

zelgadissan · Jun 21, 2009, 03:52 PM // 15:52

Random thought (didn't see it mentioned) - has anybody tried Spirit Boon Strike with this to try and make the damage-on-effect spirits (Shelter, Displacement, etc.) last longer?

Can't get in-game to test myself.

Edit: never mind, 10e, 2c, 20r says this is a retarded idea.

Xenomortis · Jun 21, 2009, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by zelgadissan

Random thought (didn't see it mentioned) - has anybody tried Spirit Boon Strike with this to try and make the damage-on-effect spirits (Shelter, Displacement, etc.) last longer?

Can't get in-game to test myself.

Edit: never mind, 10e, 2c, 20r says this is a retarded idea.

Combined with Armour of Unfeeling, it's another 3 hits for Displacement and Shelter, but it cannot be used frequently enough or timely enough for it to merit a spot on the bar.
A human could probably run Summon Spirits though, but it'll only keep the spirits going a little bit longer.

Forever Darkeyes · Jun 21, 2009, 05:40 PM // 17:40

Wow cant wait too see a 1 human build for this gonna try and test one myself but look forward too seeing one, im bad at making builds