Curse

Fidelity · Dec 26, 2007, 05:04 PM // 17:04

As some have already said, keeping it simple is a nice way to keep them from failing...

But I still had a good laugh first time i let Pyre have a Splinter Barrage build :P

legacyofkain85 · Dec 26, 2007, 05:05 PM // 17:05

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Originally Posted by Deadslap

Vekk and Zhed continuously use [skill]Meteor Shower[/skill] on a group of 1 or 2 enemy's. I can't tell you how many times I'll see this in 1 quest.

In the Jokanur Diggings mission, whenever I equip any touch skills on my monks, they always stand under the stomper and get crushed to death.

u have a few options there as mentioned in this post a couple of times,either turn it off and manually micro it or just dont use it,i guess they like to use the most damaging skill early on and it happens with other ele aoe´s as well not just ms

bhavv · Dec 26, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Just dont use meteor shower, glyph of sacrifice, or echo on heroes unless you know how to micromanage them.

'OMG my heroes fail because they dont know which of the 7 other skills on their bar they have to echo or sac'.

And why should they? Are they meant to be epic mind readers that can read your thoughts and know exactly what to echo or sac?

Ford Fairmont · Dec 27, 2007, 08:01 AM // 08:01

I made the mistake of giving Livia Awaken the Blood and blood ritual......

Epic fail on both our behalves....

azizul1975 · Dec 27, 2007, 09:20 AM // 09:20

i didnt read through all the post, so i'm not sure if this has been mentioned :

it seems zenmai don't know how to use hex on enemy. i gave her few skill that need enemy hexed, and gave her hex skill,and she does nothing, fighting the enemy with just the dagger, without any skill.

also it seems that she doesn't know how to use shadow refuge to save herself.

legacyofkain85 · Dec 27, 2007, 10:30 PM // 22:30

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Originally Posted by azizul1975

i didnt read through all the post, so i'm not sure if this has been mentioned :

it seems zenmai don't know how to use hex on enemy. i gave her few skill that need enemy hexed, and gave her hex skill,and she does nothing, fighting the enemy with just the dagger, without any skill.

also it seems that she doesn't know how to use shadow refuge to save herself.

shadow refuge gives regen so as far as i know they wil not use it unless they have degen, try not to give hex based skills to the hero assassin or u could hex them yourself or try giving them 1 easy low cost-cast hex nothing complicated,
as for using chains they are not very good they use lead-offhand-dual but wont restart the chain,only good skill combo that ive seen them use fairly good is moebius +death blossom ,i could´nt make them repeat the combo without moebius

p.s. they wont use shaterring assault ,i guess sin hero will only use it if the target actually has a enchantement on them to be removed

Fluffy Butt · Dec 28, 2007, 06:23 AM // 06:23

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Originally Posted by Kusandaa

They're not to bad at healing - a prot hero, however... sucks. Very. Very. BAD. I'm not always micro-managing heroes but I laugh everytime they prot a minion, or when one of my other heroes/teammate dies when they could have been pre-protted. I ask for pre-prots when I end up pulling some stuff, or when I'm "tanking". Because heroes don't pre-prot, which kinda defeats the purpose, depending on the area...

Monks also heal/prot pets and minions, sometimes over party members.

My protection Monk is kick ass. It saved my teams butt like 100 times. Kusandaa, PM Killer Fluffy and I'll show you how good a protection monk HERO is.
(Drives me nuts to hear "Protect monks suck" "Paragons are useless" ahhh

)

OH, by the way, you don't know the order apparrently.

Party Members -> Allies -> Sub-Allies -> Meat Allies

-Party members - are first priority for a hero monk! They will heal them any time when needed.

-Allies - How many times does Togo/Mehnlo die and your team is taking heavy fire? If that never happened to you then I don't know what. If you have a Ally the hero will try their best to heal it AND you.

Sub-Allies - These are allies like pets. They are healed BUT If a Hero has to choose from a party member from a pet, a party member they would healed. However if the pet is taking heavy damage and the team is doing fine, then the pet would be healed.

Meat Allies - These are the unimportant allies that can be replaced (Minions, Guards, Pesents) Things that can be replaced or is not important to the mission or area. ARE ONLY HEALED AFTER THE FIGHT!! I don't know why people don't see this.

payne · Dec 28, 2007, 03:36 PM // 15:36

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Originally Posted by Gregslot

ps: assassins are bad heroes because they hardly ever know how to use their skills.

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ps: you = epic failure...do some research; please, before making a sweeping comment like this...my Zenmai uses a pure 'sin bar perfectly and can manage to tank shiro / lich on HM in GoM that makes me think that 'sin heroes are quite good...or maybe GoM HM is just some nooby mission any idiot can do?

sins can be awesome heroes if you can give them a good bar ./ same as any hero...granted they do not use certain combos but no heroes will run a perfect 6 skill combo in spammable order unless self-macroed...

if you do not give them massive combos but small combos used 4 skill combo myself on her and she runs it perfectly in the correct order without me having to self-macro EVER!

so please do some research into other bars before making such a stupid statement as:

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Originally Posted by Gregslot

ps: assassins are bad heroes because they hardly ever know how to use their skills.

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Now Assassin Hero's
The word Fail doesn't even cover One billionth of how much is wrong with them

sort it out mate...give them a good bar then rewrite your post

Draikin · Dec 28, 2007, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by payne

if you do not give them massive combos but small combos used 4 skill combo myself on her and she runs it perfectly in the correct order without me having to self-macro EVER!

Do you consider constantly auto-attacking and only occasionally using an attack skill to be perfect use of a skill combo?